TBH, I had high expectations before the update dropped because of the prolonged development time. However, while I deliberately avoided this thread post-update until I played 0.6, I did check the changelog before playing. The 1,800 render count listed in the 0.6 changelog pretty much tempered my expectations, so I wasn't surprised by the shortish play time.
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Sounds good in words, let's see how it goes. I hope it won't remain a typical list of election promises...Yeah.
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Planned changes
- Tighten the render count in less important scenes; focus on scenes that matter.
- Move time along. We've been quite fond of "stopping to smell the roses" while little time passes in-game, but we've also started skipping more. Going forward, we will also be passing more time off screen.
- Animations will be going back to 30fps.
- Give the main character a new haircut. We were already planning on doing this. Although it may be hard to tell, his current hair has both a wet and a dry version so he hasn't been walking around with wet hair, just messy.
- Give proper endings to the updates and don't end as abruptly as 0.6.
- Give better overviews of the updates to set proper expectations.
- If something goes wrong during development, talk about it. More transparency.
- Less polishing.
- These renders with a toaster assembled into pseudo-animation and a meaningless conversation with Mike are like...cough...preps walking animation..cough. Completely unnecessary moments in a game with already slow development. Good.
- Finally, at least one developer realized that 60 FPS animations are not needed in indie porn novels.
- From Kurwa to Perkele (Less polishing, more finnishing)
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Summer camps usually don't last longer than that. Also the game does, for example in CH5 when with Jenni ("A couple of weeks, or something.") and in CH6 when Kate sends you home ("I'm supposed to stay here for a couple weeks!"). And yes, the devs can come up with some convoluted way to make it last longer AND all the characters will just stay there because it's not like they have other plans for the rest of the summer... And just to be clear, I don't consider "couple" to necessarily mean "2" in this case, I'm thinking about 2-3 weeks.
By small I don't mean number of renders. I judge the update size based on scenes and events and that is related to the pacing. I agree that the story moving fast is not really a problem, it should actually happen naturally: first the story is slow as you get to know the characters, environment and the world in general and then it should pick up the pace. I'm just concerned that the devs might try to overcompensate for this update, speed things up too much and ruining the story in the process, that's all.
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Doesn't matter what you consider when there is a factual definition of what a couple is. 3 would be a 'few'.
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And then there is a colloquial use of "couple".
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For some Reasons, girls on Amber(whatever the name of that app is)are more interesting than the main girls .... Are we ever going to meet any of them?... especially Newt aka Becca!! She's thick AF!! 
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2. Meaning not primary or general.
No teacher I have ever met in my life would ever say a few to mean two, especially when meaning a definitive set amount of time. Now fair enough, summer camp, but even those must have qualifications to teach, though it is set in the States, so...does anything else more really need saying?
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Not for me, son
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I think the devs don´t deserve all the accusations people are writting here. I understand the dissapointment with the update, with more reasons if you are a Patreon, but i really don´t see them as a diabolical monster, come on.
For now they have been self critical, they have listened all the complains and they want to change, that´s good, of course we will see with the time how that goes but for now they can´t do anything more. By the way, very nice of them to offer refunds, this is something that i have only seen in other dev when the update doesn´t go well.
The toaster thing... Sorry but i like it, yeah, they could have put that effort in some other renders with the girls but i think this is the type of details a game needs, of course a game needs both things, i´m not saying that they should spend all their resources in toaster animations but if they can have good amount of content+good animations like the toaster i´m in... Even if i have to wait more... But that´s just my opinion.
I thought in the first chapter in get myself a Patrion membership but i decided to wait a little more, i did the right decision i think but i would like to subscribe in a future if they achieve what they have said, or at least give them a tip and then cancel my subscription, this is somethings i usually do when i like a game but i don´t want to pay every month.
For now they have been self critical, they have listened all the complains and they want to change, that´s good, of course we will see with the time how that goes but for now they can´t do anything more. By the way, very nice of them to offer refunds, this is something that i have only seen in other dev when the update doesn´t go well.
The toaster thing... Sorry but i like it
, yeah, they could have put that effort in some other renders with the girls but i think this is the type of details a game needs, of course a game needs both things, i´m not saying that they should spend all their resources in toaster animations but if they can have good amount of content+good animations like the toaster i´m in... Even if i have to wait more... But that´s just my opinion.I thought in the first chapter in get myself a Patrion membership but i decided to wait a little more, i did the right decision i think but i would like to subscribe in a future if they achieve what they have said, or at least give them a tip and then cancel my subscription, this is somethings i usually do when i like a game but i don´t want to pay every month.
10 months for garbage update. Positive review are from new comers that just started the game. people that waited from .5 to .6 majority of the disappointment is warranted.
Don't be a retard. Some have no balls to give criticism as with their real life. Just be frank about it. At least the Dev has the integrity to offer refunds.
Don't be a retard. Some have no balls to give criticism as with their real life. Just be frank about it. At least the Dev has the integrity to offer refunds.
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Ha, and imagine if during the photo shoot with Mia, they were seen by a jogger.
It would be funny if she showed up every time the main character is with a new girl
It would be funny if she showed up every time the main character is with a new girl
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I'm just saying we need more renders of this peach
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I'm sure Eve disliked her because she also wore a skirt for that day
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All good on paper, but in practice is something entirely different. Will they be able to follow through on said promises? Who knows.
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Hello, everyone!
Quick warning: this post may be longer than 0.6. It also contains spoilers.
It's time for some post-update thoughts and we'd like to preface this post by saying that yes, it seems like we fucked up with 0.6 in several ways. The biggest issue is the size of the update, and specifically how short the playtime ended up being. Coming from the light indoor sets of 0.5 to the heavy outdoor sets of 0.6, the render counts are also vastly different.
This update was very Mia heavy to begin with and the content is divided even further by branching on top of that. Don't like Bree, Sophie or Mia? Well, now you're going to play through 0.6 as fast as someone holding down the skip button just to get to the sex scenes. Which brings us to the next topic...
The sex content—or lack thereof. The previous two updates both had full sex scenes, and 0.6 now sticks out like a sore thumb with its milder scenes. Understandably, the intimate scene with Mia in the morning also felt quite repetitive after 0.5 ended with another Mia scene. It almost feels like a moment from a game called Game Dev Tycoon... there, the game chastises you for releasing two similar games (or in this case, sex scenes) too close together. And we'd have to agree, it doesn't seem to go over very well.
That's on us. The day content wasn't planned to have much lewd or sexual content. The scenes in 0.6 weren't meant to escalate into something sexual, but rather to offer more depth to the characters and their backstories. But many people were expecting something more.
Your expectations regarding updates is something we wanted to learn through this update's feedback survey. We're quite shocked to say, but in the first 48 hours of the survey being up, we received over 500 survey responses. That's more responses than we had for the entire duration of the 0.5 feedback survey—and it's still growing.
That's a lot of responses. Thank you.
One thing we learned from this survey is that the audience is very split when it comes to expectations regarding content. We won't change our vision for the game but we will work on the pacing to get to the scenes that matter faster, and find that balance that works for most.
We'll go over a couple of the most common topics covered in your survey responses, but first we'd like to list some of the changes we're planning to implement in 0.7.
Planned changes
- Tighten the render count in less important scenes; focus on scenes that matter.
- Move time along. We've been quite fond of "stopping to smell the roses" while little time passes in-game, but we've also started skipping more. Going forward, we will also be passing more time off screen.
- Animations will be going back to 30fps.
- Give the main character a new haircut. We were already planning on doing this. Although it may be hard to tell, his current hair has both a wet and a dry version so he hasn't been walking around with wet hair, just messy.
- Give proper endings to the updates and don't end as abruptly as 0.6.
- Give better overviews of the updates to set proper expectations.
- If something goes wrong during development, talk about it. More transparency.
- Less polishing.
Now let's move on to a couple of the frequently mentioned topics...
Abandoning Summer Heat
There was a lot of concern in the survey that Summer Heat might be abandoned, especially following the critique of 0.6 and how it might affect our motivation to keep developing. We won't lie to you, it does hurt. It's never fun to let people down, as a creator or otherwise.
But we're far more concerned with how you feel about the game and its updates. That's why we'd like to offer refunds to anyone who was disappointed by the update. Just shoot us a DM here on Patreon. We don't want you to feel disappointed and this is the best we can do in the short term.
Summer Heat will not be abandoned. And if there was ever a sign of it, we'd let you know.
The toaster
The attention the toaster has been receiving in the surveys is surprising. Two frames of doom. We didn't count it as an animation or even think much of it since it was just a little test, but it certainly left an impression on many. Good and bad. But the toaster has taught us a lot, and with these findings we fully intend to utilize this transition with characters to see what else we can do.
Status updates
How much do you want to know about upcoming updates? Do you want to know which girls the scenes are with, what the scenes are about, and how much playtime you can expect? How much info is too much info?
We are adjusting our approach to status updates in 0.7 and our focus will be on transparency. We'll be reporting render numbers and relevant information that can be easier to track than a simple overall percentage.
And to start off the status updates for 0.7, here's this week's rundown.
What we did this week:
- Bugfixing
- Plotting 0.7
- Scripting 0.7
- Bree outfit poll options
- Modernized scene creation rig
- Analyzing your feedback
Other news
The special render for August will feature Eve and be posted this weekend. After the reception of 0.6 we are considering pausing the monthly specials for a while to put that time into making content for 0.7 instead.
Thank you for playing 0.6.
Cheers and have a great weekend,
Robison & Npx
As someone else said, the main hurting point I think was the time it took to finally release the update with how little it had. The communication wasn't as transparent so people built it up in their head that it was going to be a banger of an update when in reality it was an anime filler episode where the only lewd content was a remix of the prior update.
Branching has always been an issue with AVN. If you aren't on someones path then an update can take longer to download than play it sometimes.
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Bitchers and whiners. I seriously think some people here get off more by complaining and shitting on devs than they do the actual porn games. And for notable VNs with the quality of Summer Heat, it's just a bigger target for them. And I don't get why some people are so fixated on 2 fucking frames of a toaster instead of the most important thing in that scene... Kate's tits. Motherfuckers can't see the forest for the trees.I think the devs don´t deserve all the accusations people are writting here. I understand the dissapointment with the update, with more reasons if you are a Patreon, but i really don´t see them as a diabolical monster, come on.
For now they have been self critical, they have listened all the complains and they want to change, that´s good, of course we will see with the time how that goes but for now they can´t do anything more. By the way, very nice of them to offer refunds, this is something that i have only seen in other dev when the update doesn´t go well.
The toaster thing... Sorry but i like it
I thought in the first chapter in get myself a Patrion membership but i decided to wait a little more, i did the right decision i think but i would like to subscribe in a future if they achieve what they have said, or at least give them a tip and then cancel my subscription, this is somethings i usually do when i like a game but i don´t want to pay every month.
Despite the hostility, the devs specifically addressed most of the complaints with professionalism and grace, but some people here still intend to be bitter little shits about it by insulting the devs and worse... the patrons who support this VN. So they have to continue derailing the thread with this stupid ongoing tantrum about the update.
Get over it and grow the fuck up people. It's beyond ridiculous and pathetic.
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