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I feel ya, I hated him too (by the way stay away from Sinful Delicacies-similar protag) but I will admit he's done a complete 180 in the sequel, SwM2. It's surprising a difference 2 years (in game) makes as he's vastly matured to where his former personality is pretty much gone and replaced with a thoughtful, regretful and much more mature guy. All in all, SwM2 is a lot more what I had hoped the first game would be in terms of MC.
Damn, I had that game on my list. Mom looked hot. Looks like it is a dissapointment in terms of sexual content, update frequency and story.

Regarding SwM2, I did read a bit about the next episode on that thread and it seems you're correct but he's still a cheater and is probably going to end up getting a harem. The aunt seems too beautiful for him to pass up.
 
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Damn, I had that game on my list. Mom looked hot. Looks like it is a dissapointment in terms of sexual content, update frequency and story.

Regarding SwM2, I did read a bit about the next episode on that thread and it seems you're correct but he's still a cheater and is probably going to end up getting a harem. The aunt seems too beautiful for him to pass up.
In regards to the other game on your list, in short the MC is once again a horny, 18 y.o., just back from school for the summer when he starts to perv out on his mom, which if you've seen her, is perfectly reasonable. What isn't is, the depths to which he will go all cringey and rapey to get into her pants. It's a slow burn that despite having a setup for a harem, the MC becomes obsessed like a stalker (even with other females around to focus on) stopping at nothing, including sexual assault (sleep sex mostly) to get action with her. He does succeed in slowly corrupting and seducing her so she is at least consenting, but even when she tells him NO, he still forces himself on her because "he can't help it and is too horny". So far in the game they've gotten at least to oral sex foreplay and some grinding but no P-in-V yet. It's ridiculous because literally everyone else in the game is having sex including his lesbian/bisexual sister and a cheating, nympho-aunt who literally fucks every other guy, but somehow has friend-zoned him, along with the other milfs in the game... oh and its more or less a kintetic novel with the only choices happening early in the game and leading to a 'game over' if you pick the wrong one.

Getting back to Summer with Mia 2, you actually have the option/choice to decide if the MC will cheat on his now current girlfriend, but no harem options just yet. The aunt does have quite the promiscuous past which she will share with the MC in flashback scenes only if you want to see them. Believe it or not, the MC in the sequel is dreading reuniting with Mia since they did not leave on the best of terms, but all he is interested in is repairing his relationship (as just a brother) to Mia while staying loyal to his girlfriend. So through the first 4 episodes/chapters, there is a decent amount of character and plot development and for once, the MC isn't a piece of shit (unless you want him to be)....

While the girlfriend is cute and loyal, I still was really pulling for my MC to get back together with Mia as they both show they aren't exactly over each other yet. It's predictably awkward as Mia now has a boyfriend while the MC has a girlfriend of his own. For me, I'd rather just break up with the girlfriend since she doesn't deserve to be cheated on and I'm not exactly getting harem/sharing vibes from her.
 
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EDIT: I realize I am a dumbass so I started skipping and surprise! the dad likes being cucked! What's the point of this character anyway? Just so his bitch wife and turd of a son can leech of him? Just kill him like in every incest game and save me the pain of watching this moron be castrated by his own family.
he does it to spice up his marriage which has become problematic.
 
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In regards to the other game on your list, in short the MC is once again a horny, 18 y.o., just back from school for the summer when he starts to perv out on his mom, which if you've seen her, is perfectly reasonable. What isn't is, the depths to which he will go all cringey and rapey to get into her pants. It's a slow burn that despite having a setup for a harem, the MC becomes obsessed like a stalker (even with other females around to focus on) stopping at nothing, including sexual assault (sleep sex mostly) to get action with her. He does succeed in slowly corrupting and seducing her so she is at least consenting, but even when she tells him NO, he still forces himself on her because "he can't help it and is too horny". So far in the game they've gotten at least to oral sex foreplay and some grinding but no P-in-V yet. It's ridiculous because literally everyone else in the game is having sex including his lesbian/bisexual sister and a cheating, nympho-aunt who literally fucks every other guy, but somehow has friend-zoned him, along with the other milfs in the game... oh and its more or less a kintetic novel with the only choices happening early in the game and leading to a 'game over' if you pick the wrong one.

Getting back to Summer with Mia 2, you actually have the option/choice to decide if the MC will cheat on his now current girlfriend, but no harem options just yet. The aunt does have quite the promiscuous past which she will share with the MC in flashback scenes only if you want to see them. Believe it or not, the MC in the sequel is dreading reuniting with Mia since they did not leave on the best of terms, but all he is interested in is repairing his relationship (as just a brother) to Mia while staying loyal to his girlfriend. So through the first 4 episodes/chapters, there is a decent amount of character and plot development and for once, the MC isn't a piece of shit (unless you want him to be)....

While the girlfriend is cute and loyal, I still was really pulling for my MC to get back together with Mia as they both show they aren't exactly over each other yet. It's predictably awkward as Mia now has a boyfriend while the MC has a girlfriend of his own. For me, I'd rather just break up with the girlfriend since she doesn't deserve to be cheated on and I'm not exactly getting harem/sharing vibes from her.
It sounds really good on a character development perspective but, sadly not very hot.

I would obviously go for Mia too but the MC doesn't deserve to be forgiven for all the damage he caused. He needs attonement and I don't mean the beating himself up because his sister left him kind.

I'd like to see Mia or whoever make him pay but NTR is not happening so I guess that's it for me.

Thanks for the useful info about the other game. I can get behind a character that's fixated on someone so attractive but the rest sounds really bad

he does it to spice up his marriage which has become problematic.
I got you but she cheats about cheating... he doesn't know who the guy is. It was supposed to be a stranger. He would've never agreed, not to mention enjoy, had he known his wife was choosing to do it with with someone so close to him. Damn they're so evil. This game drove me nuts man.
 

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I got you but she cheats about cheating... he doesn't know who the guy is. It was supposed to be a stranger. He would've never agreed, not to mention enjoy, had he known his wife was choosing to do it with with someone so close to him. Damn they're so evil. This game drove me nuts man.
well yea, for sure he wouldn't have agreed if he knew that stranger is his son/tenant/whatever (depending what used on relationships) and i'm sure hubby had his fingers on wifey getting prescription.
 

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So I have finished Summer with Mia 1 and it is very mediocre. It's kinetic novel with about three flavour choices, so the most boring one of the bunch. MC is an idiot. It takes about 5 minutes into the game when "mission see Mia naked" is initiated and from that on, it's one very ridiculous ride. Only at the end it starts to have a bit more interesting story and meaningful relationships, but it's a bit too little too late. When it goes to sex, game is very vanilla (in consideration of porn game genre that is, irl threesomes and anal may not be vanilla, but in games, they are). That is if you aren't into incest. If you are indifferent to incest like I am and it doesn't do it for you, then you won't find any other kinks in this game which is a shame indeed. And even incest is taken VERY casually (maybe it's because limitations from patreon, them being forced to give the "option" for incest to players), like it's no big deal (thus probably won't be that arousing even for incest-loving audience). There are three female characters to have fun with and I find only one of them really atractive - "Mom". Other two are okay-ish. In enterity of the game I was nevet put over the edge. It's just so darn vanilla all, except like two scenes and those are not done particularly well either. In the end it's not so much about scenes being vanilla, it's more about them being done poorly. Just trying to make stuff we all have seen so many times already more exciting and at that Inceton fails imo. But they aren't the only ones. There are games like Become a Rock Star where scenes don't do it for me either (but that one is even more vanilla, so no surprise there), and that is one very well received game.

I don't except the sequel to be any different in terms of contents, but I hope there may be more interesting story this time. Will see about that.
 

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I don't except the sequel to be any different in terms of contents, but I hope there may be more interesting story this time. Will see about that.
well swm2 is quite similar to this except less sex and more story (choices matter little).
 
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So I have finished Summer with Mia 1 and it is very mediocre. It's kinetic novel with about three flavour choices, so the most boring one of the bunch. MC is an idiot. It takes about 5 minutes into the game when "mission see Mia naked" is initiated and from that on, it's one very ridiculous ride. Only at the end it starts to have a bit more interesting story and meaningful relationships, but it's a bit too little too late. When it goes to sex, game is very vanilla (in consideration of porn game genre that is, irl threesomes and anal may not be vanilla, but in games, they are). That is if you aren't into incest. If you are indifferent to incest like I am and it doesn't do it for you, then you won't find any other kinks in this game which is a shame indeed. And even incest is taken VERY casually (maybe it's because limitations from patreon, them being forced to give the "option" for incest to players), like it's no big deal (thus probably won't be that arousing even for incest-loving audience). There are three female characters to have fun with and I find only one of them really atractive - "Mom". Other two are okay-ish. In enterity of the game I was nevet put over the edge. It's just so darn vanilla all, except like two scenes and those are not done particularly well either. In the end it's not so much about scenes being vanilla, it's more about them being done poorly. Just trying to make stuff we all have seen so many times already more exciting and at that Inceton fails imo. But they aren't the only ones. There are games like Become a Rock Star where scenes don't do it for me either (but that one is even more vanilla, so no surprise there), and that is one very well received game.

I don't except the sequel to be any different in terms of contents, but I hope there may be more interesting story this time. Will see about that.
It might help for context if you let us knows some VNs you actually did enjoy because all I got from your rant was how much you disliked SwM. I mean if incest with a sibling and parent while having public/exhibitionist sex, blackmail, and making porn is vanilla, well I don't know what to tell you other than this IS a 3 year old game that came out in 2018. Not exactly groundbreaking compared to some of the newer releases in the past 12 months.

I get that maybe you wanted something more extreme, but in that case, that's what using the tags are for. as far as this game, I hated the MC myself, but everyone was more more or less hate-able with stupid choices that we could not make but only observe and see it play out. In spite of that I did feel the MC was starting to get 'it', what Mia had been trying to make him realize that people are more than just sex objects to play with and abuse. That same theme carries over in the sequel where the MC has done almost a complete 180, in terms of maturity and personality and the story is much better for the character development while the story is still evolving.
 
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It might help for context if you let us knows some VNs you actually did enjoy because all I got from your rant was how much you disliked SwM. I mean if incest with a sibling and parent while having public/exhibitionist sex, blackmail, and making porn is vanilla, well I don't know what to tell you other than this IS a 3 year old game that came out in 2018. Not exactly groundbreaking compared to some of the newer releases in the past 12 months.

I get that maybe you wanted something more extreme, but in that case, that's what using the tags are for. as far as this game, I hated the MC myself, but everyone was more more or less hate-able with stupid choices that we could not make but only observe and see it play out. In spite of that I did feel the MC was starting to get 'it', what Mia had been trying to make him realize that people are more than just sex objects to play with and abuse. That same theme carries over in the sequel where the MC has done almost a complete 180, in terms of maturity and personality and the story is much better for the character development while the story is still evolving.
As I have mentioned at the end of my "rant", in the end it's more about the quality alone that the content. I can enjoy everything, it just has to be done well. Patreon limits, resp. blocks incest entirely. Icenton do it so you name what characters are to you, what you are to them and thus incest is in the game. I'm pretty sure you understand that this way you really cannot make a good incest game. It's just a cheap substitute for it. It doesn't work at all. When it goes to other content it's a lot about emphasis about it. MC has sex with Mia in a changing room. Do you feel it's a public place? Are you reminded of it in some way? No, you are not. How about add a few pictures how Mia and MC stoll through a full shop? How about add some people talking in next cubicle, maybe even having suspision about what's happening there so MC is forced to quiet down Mia with his hand, etc.? And the scene itself. There is a full-length mirror in front of them. How about mention it? Use it for some dirty talking? Tell Mia how slutty she looks getting fucked by her brother in a changing room like a cheap whore? Something, anything. It's just bland, boring, uninteresting the way it is written... Inceton focus more on awkward animations over good writting. I'm one of those that think animations in those games are pretty much useless. Just a couple nice stills with more angles and better writting is just a better way to do it. But I'm sadly in minority, so it's never going to happen.

About VNs that work for me? Well, Ripples is great, Our Red String is so far great as well (surprisingly after GGGB was imo a huge crap), I enjoy Pandora's Box (it has bad writting as well, but situations there are more dirty so it somehow does work for me), Inside Jennifer from Inceton works for me (but that one includes my favorite fetishes, so no surprise there). And some others I can't remember right now. I don't need anything extreme in the game, I like small things, small details. I lke elements of domination and submission. Women that know what they want and aren't afraid to demand it even if it's something MC is uncomfortable about or it isn't directly pleasurable for him. I like emenets of voyeurism and exhibitionism, but voyeurism in games is limited due the audiance standing firmly against NTR (of more precisely against any female character having sex with other men, even if it's a husband or boyfriend of hers) and exhibitionism has to be more focused (it works best if it is main element in corruption game, like it is for example in Valiant Warrior Astrid). I like many things but most of them has to be expressed by good writting, not by awkward animations.

I played throught the sequel's 4 episodes and my opinion is that first three episodes were good, the fourth is return to the bullshit of the first game. Very disappointing indeed. So MC doesn't love his girlfriend and we cannot do anything about. He will hook up with Mia and we cannot do anything about it. So much for fucking branching storyline, ffs.
 
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I played throught the sequel's 4 episodes and my opinion is that first three episodes were good, the fourth is return to the bullshit of the first game. Very disappointing indeed. So MC doesn't love his girlfriend and we cannot do anything about. He will hook up with Mia and we cannot do anything about it. So much for fucking branching storyline, ffs.
not same as swm1, it's possible that they won't end up together.
 
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not same as swm1, it's possible that they won't end up together.
Yeah, I thought like ok, there is point where Mia and MC has sex, sort of like necessity in storyline, and will have THE TALK after. But I think it's wrong. They should add option to not having sex with her at all. But it wasn't only about the sex with Mia, it was the whole thing. Dialogues between them when MC is again acting like some wannabe jokester, but comes out like immature idiot, AGAIN. It's like he's acting as himself only in front of Mia and acts normal in front of others. Which in the end doesn't change the fact he is an idiot in disguise. :D We'll see how it goes after that, but it doesn't change my opinion - episode 4 is crap. Through playing first three episodes the biggest negative for me was existence of the prequel, resp. how bad prequel was. And then they come and create episode 4. Honestly it felt like kick in the balls for me. :D
 

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*wonders why we are talking about swm2 in swm1 thread*

anyways this (swm2) is story about mc and mia so they get most focus and depending how story goes they either end up as couple or become friends.
 

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*wonders why we are talking about swm2 in swm1 thread*

anyways this (swm2) is story about mc and mia so they get most focus and depending how story goes they either end up as couple or become friends.
And they have to fuck to become friends in the end? Do you really think this is the right way to do it? Does MC have to cheat on his girlfriend to repair his relationship with Mia? It's bad fucking design in my opinion. Honestly I now doubt they will give us any meaningul options in the game. Just another kinetic novel with fake choices. I don't really care much about what they do with their games, I just find it such a shame to waste potential of a game by bad game design.
 

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And they have to fuck to become friends in the end? Do you really think this is the right way to do it? Does MC have to cheat on his girlfriend to repair his relationship with Mia? It's bad fucking design in my opinion. Honestly I now doubt they will give us any meaningul options in the game. Just another kinetic novel with fake choices. I don't really care much about what they do with their games, I just find it such a shame to waste potential of a game by bad game design.
Truth be told, while the girlfriend is lovely and seemingly perfect, I still would prefer the option to break up with her, especially once Mia confesses she still is in love with the MC. Since I fully intend on pursuing a proper relationship with her, I'd just as prefer not to cheat on my current girlfriend who has already professed her love, and I could not say it back to her since there is someone else.
 

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Truth be told, while the girlfriend is lovely and seemingly perfect, I still would prefer the option to break up with her, especially once Mia confesses she still is in love with the MC. Since I fully intend on pursuing a proper relationship with her, I'd just as prefer not to cheat on my current girlfriend who has already professed her love, and I could not say it back to her since there is someone else.
And here you have it. That's why it would better have some "branching storyline" as they, so far falsely, advertise. You want a relationship with her, I want to be "just friends" with her (but honestly wouldn't mind even for their relationship staying cold as it was in the beginning). This is not so much about who the girlfriend is, it's about the fact they makes you feel like MC is really with her just to "get over Mia" and wouldn't mind pushing her away in a split second if Mia spread her legs for him again. That just pisses me off. We all saw what a doughbag he is in the first game, but this is imo even worse than anything in the first game. The funniest part in the most pathetic of senses is that in E4, after Mia and MC rekindle their feeling to each other the only thing they are able to do is fuck each other. :D
 
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we don't know what devs have planned for swm2.

still no idea why discussing about swm2 in swm1 thread.
 

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There's an option in the game at the start to turn on NTR. If you choose yes and enable it do you get to choose who Mia sleeps with? Like for example in the other version of the game you could flirt with the Dad while playing as Mia and it leads to believe you could sleep with them. But say that there were certain people you didn't want Mia to sleep with. Do you get a say in choice? Or will it practically happen with anyone eligible when it would come to be?
 

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There's an option in the game at the start to turn on NTR. If you choose yes and enable it do you get to choose who Mia sleeps with? Like for example in the other version of the game you could flirt with the Dad while playing as Mia and it leads to believe you could sleep with them. But say that there were certain people you didn't want Mia to sleep with. Do you get a say in choice? Or will it practically happen with anyone eligible when it would come to be?
mia fucks mc mostly in mainstory and ntr is very mild on this (mainstory but not that mild on sidestories).
 
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