VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[DanThaMan]

If a developer garners enough support he/she can hire staff to help him/her prosecute the work. Many studios with a heavy workload employee extra programmers and artists to assist them and significantly speed up development, but of course unless the original developer(s) are rewarded adequately for THEIR efforts THEY won't have the means to be able to afford skilled temporary or permanent staff to help them. The best way to help OceanLab is to support them on a regular basis via Patreon or Subscriber as many of us already do. Just sayin'.

This dev gets over £2900 a month, if they wanted help they would get it, Ocean likes to do everything alone it seems.

 

[Deleted member 327695]

This dev gets over £2900 a month, if they wanted help they would get it, Ocean likes to do everything alone it seems.

Yeeeeeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.


I have an income of around 4300$.

Then I have to exchange it from $ to €, which leaves me with 3500€. (Before taxes.) After taxes around 2000-2200€.
Then Germany has the highest electricity costs in the EU. (Or even world.) (I pay 280€ a month.)

Then deduct the cost of living, healthcare, rent, social life, and hardware upgrades (Acquired a 3090, 2080Ti, and a new PC last year.)

Pretty much leaves me with 200-600€ a month.


And now tell me where I can find an artist that produces the same level of quality in Daz3D and likes to work pretty much full-time for 200-450€.

 

[Warscared]

Yeeeeeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.


I have an income of around 4300$.

Then I have to exchange it from $ to €, which leaves me with 3500€. (Before taxes.) After taxes around 2000-2200€.
Then Germany has the highest electricity costs in the EU. (Or even world.) (I pay 280€ a month.)

Then deduct the cost of living, healthcare, rent, social life, and hardware upgrades (Acquired a 3090, 2080Ti, and a new PC last year.)

Pretty much leaves me with 200-600€ a month.


And now tell me where I can find an artist that produces the same level of quality in Daz3D and likes to work pretty much full-time for 200-450€.

if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!

you also get some tax breaks! but since you do need the hardware some of your options are limited!
Anyway get SG`s finished and released on Steam and that should give you a proper boost in popularity that should translate into more patrons!

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!

 

[Soundgfx]

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes

Man I would've done that if covid stopped sticking around.

Quarantine has been a hard time, specially hard for someone stuck at home with a broken pc and nothing but his phone to entertain him.


On a more SG related note, I'm fine with a 2-3 months pace; it's quite understandable that the updates ate slow considering this dude is working on two VNs at the same time; so far I'm really interested in two VNs rn and at this point it's not even for wanking, I'm genuinely invested in the story of summer's gone and chasing sunset; I quite like these VNs a lot and they're fairly new.

 

[Deleted member 327695]

if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!

I do indeed plan on leaving Germany in the future. But not until the financial aspect is secure.

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!

No need to worry about that. Since I released Chapter 3, I did take developing much more seriously.

I started building good habits in order to improve every aspect surrounding my development and personal life.
But you cannot become an S-Tier productivity god over a few weeks.

I am improving/changing my whole developer identity by improving and creating one habit at a time.

And the games do not feel like work for me. It's a passion project. I wake up looking forward to work on them. (But a good work/life balance is needed and due to Covid not sustainable at the moment.)

I have a certain number of renders that I need to do daily.
No beer with friends before that is done.

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!

I heard you can publish a game like that even if you are in Germany. It just won't be published/For sale in Germany itself.

On a more SG related note, I'm fine with a 2-3 months pace; it's quite understandable that the updates ate slow considering this dude is working on two VNs at the same time; so far I'm really interested in two VNs rn and at this point it's not even for wanking, I'm genuinely invested in the story of summer's gone and chasing sunset; I quite like these VNs a lot and they're fairly new.

This is also what I will achieve in the future. A release schedule of around 2-3 months for each half-chapter. (Both games simultaneously.)

And if everything goes well, I will be acquiring a new workstation in August.
The 3090 is nice but still takes up to 30min for each render.

And my calculations do include two games at the same time. (The amount of daily renders is pretty much the exact amount for a 2-3 month release.)

 

[KhamulTG81]

if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!

you also get some tax breaks! but since you do need the hardware some of your options are limited!
Anyway get SG`s finished and released on Steam and that should give you a proper boost in popularity that should translate into more patrons!

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!

Great solution!!!... just move!... it doesn't matter what awaits you... just gtfo! Imho, these days you would be a fool to leave a country like germany. The benefits of living in germany are exceptionally positiv.

 

[Warscared]

Great solution!!!... just move!... it doesn't matter what awaits you... just gtfo! Imho, these days you would be a fool to leave a country like germany. The benefits of living in germany are exceptionally positiv.

i am not negating the benefits of living in Germany! do not be so sensible with such things! i am merely pointing out some of the issues and possible solutions does not mean there would not be new issues!(as i pointed out the productivity becoming one of those)!

If i was 20 again and wanted to make money i would move to Germany! sadly or luckily i passed that phased in my life (or survived it would be more around the truth) and all i want now is a decent quality of life and to avoid work stress!

If not for the pandemic i would never have known these kind of games and would still be wasting 5 hours a week picking the right porn movie and half an hour spread out around the week to fap! So not everything with the current situation was bad...

anyway i am still in lay off and will get back to work in June! Working with Germans in an Hotel or better explained working for Germans/Swiss... easy job low stress nice people (most of the times)!

that gtfo is kind of mean on your part... almost childish so to speak! Anyway no bad blood from me if there is none from you! i believe we want whats best for ocean which is to continue work as fast as possible!

 

[Skeltom]

i am not negating the benefits of living in Germany! do not be so sensible with such things! i am merely pointing out some of the issues and possible solutions does not mean there would not be new issues!(as i pointed out the productivity becoming one of those)!

If i was 20 again and wanted to make money i would move to Germany! sadly or luckily i passed that phased in my life (or survived it would be more around the truth) and all i want now is a decent quality of life and to avoid work stress!

If not for the pandemic i would never have known these kind of games and would still be wasting 5 hours a week picking the right porn movie and half an hour spread out around the week to fap! So not everything with the current situation was bad...

anyway i am still in lay off and will get back to work in June! Working with Germans in an Hotel or better explained working for Germans/Swiss... easy job low stress nice people (most of the times)!

that gtfo is kind of mean on your part... almost childish so to speak! Anyway no bad blood from me if there is none from you! i believe we want whats best for ocean which is to continue work as fast as possible!

Are you a writer for Where The Heart Is? I jest, but that's lot of exclamation points in one response.

 

[kabaji9]

Honestly, have an good balance between everything, and most importantly enjoy making the VN's because it really shows. ❤

 

[Blackjacks12]

any news when cap 4 come?

 

[qwertz!]

any news when cap 4 come?

3.5 is next, half chapters.

 

[superprokop]

I don't think I have enjoyed a game quite as much as this one. I kept wanting to read more

 

[Bella Von Halen]

i love this game.
update when come the new update?

 

[Your Father Adam]

i love this game.
update when come the new update?

In 5 minutes

 

[Rumplepuss]

In 5 minutes

If you're travelling close to the speed of light or near the event horizon of a black hole maybe!

 

[Dragon59]

In 5 minutes

We don't want the update coming prematurely...

 

[Your Father Adam]

We don't want the update coming prematurely...

Of course not, I was making a bad joke

 

[Rumplepuss]

As I intend to live forever I'm happy to wait patiently, for as long as necessary, for forthcoming OceanLab updates. Precious things are only precious when rare, unusual and occasional. Diamonds wouldn't be valuable if they were common enough to use as gravel. Stand fast and have courage, brothers, for the treasure shall be ours. Ave atque vale!

 

[Cabin Fever]

As I intend to live forever I'm happy to wait patiently, for as long as necessary, for forthcoming OceanLab updates. Precious things are only precious when they are rare and occasional. Diamonds wouldn't be valuable if they were common enough to use as gravel. Thus spake the undying Rumplepuss. Ave atque vale!

Actually, diamonds are one of the most common gems on Earth, and it's only valued above other gems due to one of the all-time best ad campaign in history by one of the early pioneers of diamond industry.

Moral of this little nugget of info? Someone needs to put up a sustained campaign of how great Oceanlab's works are and spread the word.

 

[Ayhsel]

Actually, diamonds are one of the most common gems on Earth, and it's only valued above other gems due to one of the all-time best ad campaign in history by one of the early pioneers of diamond industry.

Moral of this little nugget of info? Someone needs to put up a sustained campaign of how great Oceanlab's works are and spread the word.

In my opinion, as soon as he can he needs to put both games on Steam. I am confident as soon as the games have a greater reach, more people will find them good and support them.

But now, both games reach is limited to very specific markets. Steam would allow for sooo many users to fall in love with the games.

The problem is Germany and Steam. They have blacklisted all games with sexual content for some stupid reason I do not know.