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I don't think somebody cross-posted it here but Ocean addressed some of the last chapter criticism in the off-topic thread:
Yes that explains, Ocean didn't have the whole project in his mind yet, before doing a chapter. And then if you go into one extreme, it's difficult to go in another direction later on, so he needs to rewrite it in earlier chapters...

Of course better to write the whole script once, but nobody got a budget like mainstream movies, where they have years and years to write the script over and over, until everyone is happy.

And even with those scripts, I was told, they have nice script, but because of some political incorrect BS, like LGBT stuff, which they added later on, to get extra money. Some of the storylines need to be rewritten to add extra characters for example. With movies we don't know how good or bad the stories were before, because we only get to see the end product. But with a game like this one, we see that an older story line (chapter) was a little bit better, or at least a little bit different.

He probably didn't even know if he would write another chapter, it all depends on how people like the story. If nobody liked it, it would have died off earlier...

(So lets see if this post gets banned again).
 

RNasc4444

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I don't think somebody cross-posted it here but Ocean addressed some of the last chapter criticism in the off-topic thread:
Thank you! Haven't checked the offtopic thread in a while so I hadn't seen this yet. I totally understand his explanation. It makes absolute sense and even though I don't fault him it also doesn't keep me from being disappointed.

While the Bella interactions are certainly the bigger issue there are others that let me down such as the Nami bathroom scene and the porch scene with Nojiko. The latter one just felt so empty. Like it was only made as an excuse for the lewd Noji renders. All in all I guess I just miss some of the edge the MC used to have.
 

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People babbling about this being the best story ever when Ocean himself is making this game without a script. Changing who is LI and who's not. Supposedly connecting two games and then saying that Wiab gets a whole story overhaul. All in all, I bet that chapter 5 is going to be a turning point of this project flopping or turning into another VN with porn in it.
 

Mamaragan

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People babbling about this being the best story ever when Ocean himself is making this game without a script. Changing who is LI and who's not. Supposedly connecting two games and then saying that Wiab gets a whole story overhaul. All in all, I bet that chapter 5 is going to be a turning point of this project flopping or turning into another VN with porn in it.
My man, do you understand that WIAB and SG are work in progress right? Obviously change is going to happen. Nothing is set in stone.
 

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Hello,

First of all: I called this Dev Log #1 because it's the first solely dedicated Chapter 5 Dev Log.
Second of all, usually, there wouldn't be an SG Dev Log today, but a promise I made over a year ago now bit me in the ass.

Over a year ago, I made a promise to my Mother to doggo-sit my own dog... (I didn't take him with me into the center of a big city.)
What I didn't take into account is, that I'd move across the country.
I won't be able to render for 14 days.
But that doesn't mean I'm not going to work on the games.

I will be writing a lot, and I will already do the postwork for all the SG & WiAB renders I already got.
Which is quite a bit in WiAB's case. (And around 190 for SG Chapter 5)

I will also start with the phone coding for SG Chapter 5.

I really dislike having to go there, but they do deserve their vacation. And it's probably the last time I will ever see my Doggo.
(Next month he will turn 15, and his race has a max life expectancy of 14.)
Anyways, work is still going to be done, and the hardest part of the WIAB update is behind me. (The damn farm and everything surrounding it.)

(One image, two variations.)

Previews: 4k attached


I will soon reach a point in development, where I can show a little more than just Bella.
But Bellchen is life.

I'll see you in two weeks.
- Ocean
Bellchen1.png
Bellchen2.png
 

yossa999

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People babbling about this being the best story ever when Ocean himself is making this game without a script. Changing who is LI and who's not. Supposedly connecting two games and then saying that Wiab gets a whole story overhaul. All in all, I bet that chapter 5 is going to be a turning point of this project flopping or turning into another VN with porn in it.
What's wrong with the best story ever that made without a script? Does it make it any less awesome? I guess what matters is whether you like what you see or not. And if you don't like the game no script ever will help it.

But... But what if Ocean himself doesn't know yet WHERE FECKING SUMMER'S GONE!!!111
 

hahequ

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The game and the story are going nowhere this way.

Some people need to realize that a story needs a hero, a heroine, a few antagonists, some hero's and heroine's sidekicks, side characters, extras and crowd characters.

Now, I'm watching more and more people wanting that more and more random female extra characters become LIs with their proper routes. This is pretty damn crazy.

I hope the Author realizes that he must scrap some side stories and LI routes in order to go somewhere with this VN.

In the meanwhile, I'm enjoying what he has delivered.
Tbh thats kinda Oceans fault, he makes all the girls so damn sexy that you want to have a romance path with every one of them lol
 

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People babbling about this being the best story ever when Ocean himself is making this game without a script. Changing who is LI and who's not. Supposedly connecting two games and then saying that Wiab gets a whole story overhaul. All in all, I bet that chapter 5 is going to be a turning point of this project flopping or turning into another VN with porn in it.
I don't give a shit 1.gif
 

GodHatesFigs

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Tbh thats kinda Oceans fault, he makes all the girls so damn sexy that you want to have a romance path with every one of them lol
Yeah to me that's kinda one of the things I'm down on. I wish he'd make a few normal looking girls (not ugly ones lol) as well but with more thought and focus put into their personalities and such. And it would've made sense seeing as this game is about relationship and character building and not sex and appeal. Would've also been something different than the usual formula for these kinds of games. but alas he went with the typical approach of every girl looking like a super model and it's fine I guess. Still would've preferred the other approach.
 

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Its funny that you guys think that if people like me ask to make kate a Li ocean will just do it because a group of fans asked him to do it, guys.. please he has his own opinion about his game obviously, and his opinion will change with time that is something normal, if you guys dont trust him with how the game will proceed i dont know what u guys are doing here.

the characters that he builds are interesting, almost all of them and he will make the final decision about the Li`s.

its only normal that we give our opinion too about what is our favorites characters and each of them we hope to see as Li
 

Mamaragan

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Its funny that you guys think that if people like me ask to make kate a Li ocean will just do it because a group of fans asked him to do it, guys.. please he has his own opinion about his game obviously, and his opinion will change with time that is something normal, if you guys dont trust him with how the game will proceed i dont know what u guys are doing here.

the characters that he builds are interesting, almost all of them and he will make the final decision about the Li`s.

its only normal that we give our opinion too about what is our favorites characters and each of them we hope to see as Li
I'm still gonna pester him about it full.gif
 

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Could someone post the Nami ass treats? :love::love::love:
Bit disappointing but here ya go. (can hardly even tells it's her if I didn't already know that was the tail end of her hair, hoped for more of her body and cute face to be shown too)
Nami-Ass-1.png Nami-Ass-2.png
(I hesitate to share these because I'm not sure if Ocean is cool with it so someone lemme know if so.)
 
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