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John972

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Right now Ocean releases half a chapter a year out of 30.
OK, don't quote me on this (since I'm currently too lazy to go back to find all of Ocean's original comments), but the 'half chapters' are actually full chapters of new content. If I recall correctly, the use of halves had to do with the rework.

So far, this game has had the following (out of a supposed 30 chapters):

1. Ch 1
2. Ch 2
3. Ch 3
4. Ch 3.5
5. Ch 4
6. Ch 4.5
7. Ch 5

So, if Ocean was to release two half chapters per year (and I'm not sure he needs to continue with that numbering schema now the rework cycle is near complete), that's equivalent to two chapters out of 30-odd.

Besides, there's many a slip between a cup and a lip. 30 chapters is/was a mapped-out, long term proposal. Who's to say one or more proposed chapters don't get amalgamated into one when the time comes...
 

Penfold Mole

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May 22, 2017
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Ocean's biggest problem is the fact that he is working on two games instead of one. He explained why he is doing it and I totally get it, but it still feels like it's a mistake on his part. Instead of having one happy fanbase he has two unhappy ones.

Also, all the talk about being a perfectionist is way overblown in my opinion. If you take into consideration the quality and combine the number of renders and animations he makes for both games he is actually one of the most prolific ones on this site. It just doesn't feel like it.
Don't kid yourself. :sneaky:

Working just on one game and dropping the other would create one "unhappy fanbase" and one extremely pissed fanbase. :LOL: Pitchforks, tar and feather pissed.

And even if he never had the other game and fanbase in the first place, so he wouldn't have to abandon one of the games to have a single game to develop, he'd still have one game with one "unhappy fanbase" :sneaky:

You've been a member of F95 long enough to know that what we have right now is one of the happiest kind of fanbase around here, compared to any other game thread, that there is no such thing as a perfectly happy fanbase around here, anywhere, and no realistic way to please any F95 fanbase to make them all happy with the game and its development. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Ilhares

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Aug 19, 2019
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If he gets that many holes (180) he will die of STD's :ROFLMAO:
I realize anecdotes do not equal data, but of a comparable number, the worst I had is a case of crabs when I was 19. Selective whoring works just fine, if you're not banging diseased people.
 

AKAsrk

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Jul 17, 2018
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It takes a masochist to recognize a masochist. Nowadays I just silently put "no sex" complainers on ignore without a further ado, but you have piqued my curiosity. Fancy to tell, what motivates you guys? I mean, from the widest variety of porn games on this site, with the range of kinks and fetishes for every taste, you always end up choosing this one, where the plot comes first, and then you complain about it. Where the "groping" and "teasing" tags are the pinnacle of lewdness. Where Developer Note on the OP says: "This isn't a porn game! This is a story-focused game with adult elements. If you just want to fap, this is certainly the wrong game for you." Where the description is some kind of vague bullshit about a young spirit.

Rating has been lowered enough for this game by one-star angry reviews lately, now it's not even at the first page of the most rated games here. Why are you skipping this, and shitload of other really good games which are packed with sex scenes only to come here asap and complain that people play this game for the sake of the story?

How it works for you, are you a masochist or what?
Like i said im a clown, Didnt read the BIG WARNING on the page and only found out when i opened the game on the first screen and it gave the warning that there was no sex, didnt actually play the game at all, i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for being a dumbass
 

AKAsrk

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Jul 17, 2018
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I was nearly going to suggest you look at the game tags listed under every game thread title as a guide to what content a game does or does not have, given you've only made three posts and must be new and all.

Then I saw your account was created in 2018, despite your extremely low engagement with this site (three posts in the last five years, with all three made in the last 24 hours). Are you a burner account?

Anyway, you appear to have been using this site long enough to know EXACTLY what game tags are and how they work. Therefore, who's the masochist?
no, i just dont interact usually, im hear to beat my meat and thats it, not to be a part of a community, and as i said to a previous guy i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for not reading the warnings, i would of thought that was evident by describing myself as a clown but i guess not
 

Old Man Al

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no, i just dont interact usually, im hear to beat my meat and thats it, not to be a part of a community, and as i said to a previous guy i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for not reading the warnings, i would of thought that was evident by describing myself as a clown but i guess not
That sounds kind of sad, like you hatefuck yourself.
 

AlexFXR

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Ocean is an excellent artist, but is probably the most inefficient dev I've ever seen. He claims there are 30 chapters, he's nearing the finish of the fifth. At the moment he's doing about two half chapters a year. He's going to need to improve efficiency enormously if he's going to achieve that in under a decade...
I agree with you on almost everything except Ocean's effectiveness. There will be 32 chapters in SG, 5 of which are already ready. (32-5=27) There are 27 chapters left to do. Now his chapter release rate is half a chapter per year or a chapter every 2 years. (27*2=54) As a result, it turns out that at the current rate, the SG will be completed in 54 years. I wonder if Ocean or his fans will live to see the release of SG? In any case, Ocean will not be able to make 2 games at the same time. Either he will throw all his strength into one game and after 27 years he will probably achieve success, or there will be 2 failures.
 

Kakasan

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May 23, 2023
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I agree with you on almost everything except Ocean's effectiveness. There will be 32 chapters in SG, 5 of which are already ready. (32-5=27) There are 27 chapters left to do. Now his chapter release rate is half a chapter per year or a chapter every 2 years. (27*2=54) As a result, it turns out that at the current rate, the SG will be completed in 54 years. I wonder if Ocean or his fans will live to see the release of SG? In any case, Ocean will not be able to make 2 games at the same time. Either he will throw all his strength into one game and after 27 years he will probably achieve success, or there will be 2 failures.
I will only give my opinion, after a few months of the game's release on Steam.
 

Garvelt

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And even if he never had the other game and fanbase in the first place, so he wouldn't have to abandon one of the games to have a single game to develop, he'd still have one game with one "unhappy fanbase" :sneaky:

You've been a member of F95 long enough to know that what we have right now is one of the happiest kind of fanbase around here, compared to any other game thread, that there is no such thing as a perfectly happy fanbase around here, anywhere, and no realistic way to please any F95 fanbase to make them all happy with the game and its development. :ROFLMAO:
Yes, I've been a member long enough to know that slow update cycles are the main reason people complain so much and that's true for SG, WIAB and most games on here. Don't you think more frequent updates would make fans happier, because I'm sure as hell they would.

Dropping either SG or WIAB is most likely not an option at this point, but to say focusing on one game instead of two would not make a difference is a bit delusional in my opinion.
 

girlfairdev

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Yes, I've been a member long enough to know that slow update cycles are the main reason people complain so much
And as long as people support the practice of 'buying' these games piecemeal through 'patron' site paywalls you'll just have to accept that this is something that will never change.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Sep 8, 2020
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And as long as people support the practice of 'buying' these games piecemeal through 'patron' site paywalls you'll just have to accept that this is something that will never change.
Patreon and SubscribeStar provide a way for potential supporters to help fund the development of AVNs and other projects that would be unlikely to see the light of day without that support (or at least be created at the level of fidelity that support allows).

There are very few 'hobbyists' with sufficient money, time and expertise to create great AVNs with rapid update cycles including significant content with every update cycle.

I can't actually name one, let alone dozens, who treats AVN creation the way I describe above and produce at the quality level of Ocean, including renders, animations and music SOMEONE has to pay for.

Ocean treats this like it is his job and Patreon/SS provide the means for supporters who believe in his vision to provide, in aggregate, enough $ so he can continue to create as a full-time endeavor.

For those who object to the Patreon/SS system - why not show their disdain for it and only go post on threads where the creator is not using either Patreon or SubscribeStar to help support their creative works?

That would be one way to show those cretins - I mean - supporters of Patreon and SubscribeStar, right? ;)

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

yossa999

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Like i said im a clown, Didnt read the BIG WARNING on the page and only found out when i opened the game on the first screen and it gave the warning that there was no sex, didnt actually play the game at all, i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for being a dumbass
Well, I hope the story-based game without sex didn't hurt you too much and you get recover soon. :KEK:
As for me it's a lost cause, I can't play a typical pickletickler AVN anymore. I need a plot so I don't die of boredom. :HideThePain:
 

John972

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Apr 24, 2018
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no, i just dont interact usually, im hear to beat my meat and thats it, not to be a part of a community, and as i said to a previous guy i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for not reading the warnings, i would of thought that was evident by describing myself as a clown but i guess not
Fair enough...

I do have one nagging question, though... when you say you're here to "beat your meat" : do you mean after downloading and playing AVNs OR while you peruse various F95 game threads? ...'just askin' ...for science ;):)

Anyway, bad luck for picking a game with no hardcore sex...
 

Maviarab

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Jul 12, 2020
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no, i just dont interact usually, im hear to beat my meat and thats it, not to be a part of a community, and as i said to a previous guy i wasnt putting anyone down but myself for not reading the warnings, i would of thought that was evident by describing myself as a clown but i guess not
Why anyone would want to 'beat their meat' to an AVN is literally beyond my comprehension....beyond it. I grew out of that when I was 12 when my mothers clothing catalogues got boring...

With the hundreds of thousands of GB of free porn on the net...static 3D images or crappy 3 frame animated loops are your pref (after downloading 4gb of data first)...

Blows my helmet...(and not in the good way).
 

Ilhares

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Aug 19, 2019
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y'all need Jesus

get thee to a nunnery! - Jesus, probably
Nah. Jesus never said anything like that. He was very clearly as "do as you want" kind of guy, as long as you weren't putting harm on others. Well, except for flipping that table over and whipping a motherfucker who deserved it. We need more Baron Samedi up in here.
 

Skyavn

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Why does robin have Victoria's face in chapter 5? I tried to see if this was addressed anywhere else and just didn't see it. So sorry if this has been covered already.
 

Marley300

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Hello,

So, I finished moving & didn't have internet for a few days until I worked out a fix. I'm currently surfing on 1/12 of my actual internet speed, but my Fibre connection stopped working, I managed to activate the LAN thingy instead.

I had anticipated that I had a lot more time until I needed to move everything to the new place, but they already found people who'd take my old place and I was forced to move everything in just 3-4 days.
I think I have adjusted to the new place now, and now with an actual office instead of having my PCs that resemble a tornado in the living room. Now I can deduct it as a business expense too.

WiAB will be released in the upcoming days with almost 2000 renders and a few animations. It's definitely worth checking for some general SG/WiAB lore.

I'm closing in on 800 renders for the CH2 rework, but I won't finish the full before January. I'll visit my family from the 24th to the 28th and will translate SG into German during that time. (For Steam)
I did around 60 more images for Season 2, but there's no way I can show you them.
It's the same with the CH5 full renders, I don't want to show the new scenes in CH2, but I still have one small preview.

I was chatting with a friend the other day and he mentioned Victoria... Which sparked some inspiration for the first little Victoria Treat.
Whenever I feel the inspiration, I have to act quickly before it's gone and I end up with eight images.
Three are for the Ethereal Glows and Aurora boys. Images I wouldn't have created under normal circumstances and just made to thank them a little extra.

One of the five images is in a different aspect ratio. (Perfect for a phone.)
Vic_1.png
You can find the rest of the images (Boobs, playful, choker with leash)
You can find the Supporter tier images (Pussy and muffin shown)
All treats, including the higher ones, will be added to a Steam Treat collection after the Steam release. So don't feel pressured to upgrade your tier if you can wait.
You'll see them eventually.

A big change to Chapter 2 is that besides adding a few new scenes, I expanded the ones we already had.
Here is the old and only render that shows the Holgersons talking to Amber.
OldBella.jpg
In the new CH2, the scene is a little longer with some additional info.
BellaNew.jpg
The biggest expanding scene is probably the heist, which tripled in size.

WiAB's out soon, then I'll be gone for a few days over Christmas and then I'll finish Season 1 of SG.

If you guys have any ideas for some Steam achievements, write them down in the comments or on Discord.
Thank you!

- Ocean
 
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