VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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Ali ibn Hassan

Ali ibn Hassan

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Oceanlab said:
Of course, it's all your opinion and takes, and I respect it.
Just before I address some of your points, I like the new version a lot more & no reworks will be made. So this is it.




As someone said before, where I live sharing a bathroom isn't a weird thing to do. Nor is occasional nudity.

In the old version, Nami removed her panties and peed right in front of you. Talking about subtle, huh...
She doesn't do that anymore, but instead shows some tiddies, which is like totally not worth mentioning where I come from. Different cultures, I just have to assume you're American, as other Americans have mentioned similar things before.

And fuck yeah, the Wiggly is absolutely stupid and cringe. And it's exactly what I wanted there.

I disagree with you on the old version being more artistic. (Maybe if you take absurdity into the equation and say that art needs to be extravagant and over the top.)
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Do you mean the staredown that was already in the old version?
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They start staring at each other after being grouped up, and they still had the same interaction in the hallway. (It makes even more sense if you engaged with her. In the old version you just ignored her.)
Yes, some changes were made to his behavior in class. You either like them or you don't.



Yes, her first interaction was changed. It's just a glimpse now, but that doesn't mean that's all Chapter 2 will show of her.
So wait for the second part of an unfinished rework. Ugh.



Now it's getting interesting.
Are you actually trying to explain an irrational reaction to me? Because that's what panic attacks are.
They don't follow any stigma, they don't care about certain criteria being met. (Is stigma the right word?)

And trust me, I know how they work.

"Sorry bud, your trauma/situation isn't enough for a panic attack! Sorry!"
"*Panic attack stops immediately*"

If you pay close attention, they don't happen randomly, there's always something connected to it.



I just have to completely disagree with this one.
In the old version, the MC appeared to be much more creepy and unapproachable.
Now Maja and the MC chatted for a bit before being tackled by a Raccoon.

Also, when did the MC ever act like an asshole to Maja?
- All Maja saw of the MC was him being in the hospital, being the one that "helped" Vic while she was on the ground.
- Then came to the hospital and gave her the purse back, there he almost never addressed Maja directly. (You can pick a choice in their only interaction.)
- Then Vic asks Maja to find you. She does, they have a more intimate chat than in the old version, and she listens through the door (Didn't do that in the old one.), in which he has a totally normal convo with Vic, saying stuff like "You're a positive person. That's the essence to happiness." instead of talking about animals, and optionally raping dolphins.

Ugh! Man, what a fucking asshole emotard he has become.



And scenes like these are exactly the reason why the rework had to happen. It's out of character for Chapter 3 Mila and above.
She has more style than this.

In the end, I'm not saying most of your points are wrong. We all just have a different point of view, and judge scenes by how we see the world.
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Well spoken!

Now I am ready to throw myself into the mist of SG again after almost a year of not really trusting the outcome of the rework.
Some of the inconsistencies debated in this thread have been explained and seem plausible.

The pre-rework was in my view so outstandingly breathtaking that minor flaws in synopsis sped by without much notice.
It's your creation and if you see it necessary to adapt SG to be released on Steam, it's your prerogative, as long as us die hard perverts can indulge in what smutty delicacies modders can provide.

Shoot first, no questions asked!
 
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Oceanlab said:
Of course, it's all your opinion and takes, and I respect it.
Just before I address some of your points, I like the new version a lot more & no reworks will be made. So this is it.




As someone said before, where I live sharing a bathroom isn't a weird thing to do. Nor is occasional nudity.

In the old version, Nami removed her panties and peed right in front of you. Talking about subtle, huh...
She doesn't do that anymore, but instead shows some tiddies, which is like totally not worth mentioning where I come from. Different cultures, I just have to assume you're American, as other Americans have mentioned similar things before.

And fuck yeah, the Wiggly is absolutely stupid and cringe. And it's exactly what I wanted there.

I disagree with you on the old version being more artistic. (Maybe if you take absurdity into the equation and say that art needs to be extravagant and over the top.)
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Do you mean the staredown that was already in the old version?
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They start staring at each other after being grouped up, and they still had the same interaction in the hallway. (It makes even more sense if you engaged with her. In the old version you just ignored her.)
Yes, some changes were made to his behavior in class. You either like them or you don't.



Yes, her first interaction was changed. It's just a glimpse now, but that doesn't mean that's all Chapter 2 will show of her.
So wait for the second part of an unfinished rework. Ugh.



Now it's getting interesting.
Are you actually trying to explain an irrational reaction to me? Because that's what panic attacks are.
They don't follow any stigma, they don't care about certain criteria being met. (Is stigma the right word?)

And trust me, I know how they work.

"Sorry bud, your trauma/situation isn't enough for a panic attack! Sorry!"
"*Panic attack stops immediately*"

If you pay close attention, they don't happen randomly, there's always something connected to it.



I just have to completely disagree with this one.
In the old version, the MC appeared to be much more creepy and unapproachable.
Now Maja and the MC chatted for a bit before being tackled by a Raccoon.

Also, when did the MC ever act like an asshole to Maja?
- All Maja saw of the MC was him being in the hospital, being the one that "helped" Vic while she was on the ground.
- Then came to the hospital and gave her the purse back, there he almost never addressed Maja directly. (You can pick a choice in their only interaction.)
- Then Vic asks Maja to find you. She does, they have a more intimate chat than in the old version, and she listens through the door (Didn't do that in the old one.), in which he has a totally normal convo with Vic, saying stuff like "You're a positive person. That's the essence to happiness." instead of talking about animals, and optionally raping dolphins.

Ugh! Man, what a fucking asshole emotard he has become.



And scenes like these are exactly the reason why the rework had to happen. It's out of character for Chapter 3 Mila and above.
She has more style than this.

In the end, I'm not saying most of your points are wrong. We all just have a different point of view, and judge scenes by how we see the world.
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Completely agree. I suspect there are still punters that lament the loss of the blonde femme fatale, pyscho Bella, let alone a sadistic, total A-Hole MC.

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John972 said:
Completely agree. I suspect there are still punters that lament the loss of the blonde femme fatale, pyscho Bella, let alone a sadistic, total A-Hole MC.

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Bananas at dawn. Choose your second well, sir! My honor will be restored!
 
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Ali ibn Hassan said:
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Well spoken!

Now I am ready to throw myself into the mist of SG again after almost a year of not really trusting the outcome of the rework.
Some of the inconsistencies debated in this thread have been explained and seem plausible.

The pre-rework was in my view so outstandingly breathtaking that minor flaws in synopsis sped by without much notice.
It's your creation and if you see it necessary to adapt SG to be released on Steam, it's your prerogative, as long as us die hard perverts can indulge in what smutty delicacies modders can provide.

Shoot first, no questions asked!
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Please do share your opinion here once you finally play the reworked version. I'm not looking for internet validation but I feel so strongly against the 4.5 Full changes that it's impossible to ignore them. So maybe listening to other points of view will make it seem less awful. All the best bits of the game that I loved are being/have been phased out in exchange for prettier renders and vapid lewds :cry:
 
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Ottoeight said:
Dude, I don't think the Author needs his lawyers writing here everytime someone writes about the differences between the old versions and the newest one.

We are aware of the whys and the wherefores.
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I'm a fan of SG - but I'm hardly a lawyer.

We can all agree/disagree about different aspects of Summers Gone - that is all good.

Leading new/newer visitors to this thread to the idea that the changes that are occurring are at a whim or 'weirdly removed' is something I will happily provide a counterpoint to.

You have your opinion and I have mine.

I certainly will not stifle your right to discussion on this lovely thread and I'm certain that you do not intend to stifle dissenting opinions either, right?

We are all adults here and I think the facts, and background, are helpful to anyone trying to form an opinion. If the facts and background need to be restated occasionally, I see no harm in that.

If someone is already familiar with these facts and background, then just skip reading the post.

Ocean's posts about SG here as well as on his SS and Patreon pages are not all generally known to everyone on this thread so I am happy to provide that kind of information where I think it will help clear up any misunderstandings that come up.

Cheers!
 
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Tokenugget said:
... Sorry Ocean, that's not how panic attacks work.
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I don't know exact MC's condition, but as someone who was a shut in for nearly 15 years and had (and sometimes still has) those or similar to those "panic attacks", I can tell, it's not always about triggering past painful events. Sometimes I had and still have them out of blue, like I was/am walking somewhere normally or sitting comfortably in the public transport and suddenly there is a blood rushes my head, a slight tingling in the fingers, toes, climbing to hands, feet, then spreading to the arms, legs and chest. I start to sweat and the darkness consumes me like I am losing consciousness and many times I did for a brief second. Then there is a ten or so seconds of confusion and everything back to normal. So I didn't find Ocean's depiction of MC condition inaccurate.

Won't comment on the rest, since I never read the original work.
 
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Oceanlab said:
Of course, it's all your opinion and takes, and I respect it.
Just before I address some of your points, I like the new version a lot more & no reworks will be made. So this is it.




As someone said before, where I live sharing a bathroom isn't a weird thing to do. Nor is occasional nudity.

In the old version, Nami removed her panties and peed right in front of you. Talking about subtle, huh...
She doesn't do that anymore, but instead shows some tiddies, which is like totally not worth mentioning where I come from. Different cultures, I just have to assume you're American, as other Americans have mentioned similar things before.

And fuck yeah, the Wiggly is absolutely stupid and cringe. And it's exactly what I wanted there.

I disagree with you on the old version being more artistic. (Maybe if you take absurdity into the equation and say that art needs to be extravagant and over the top.)
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Do you mean the staredown that was already in the old version?
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They start staring at each other after being grouped up, and they still had the same interaction in the hallway. (It makes even more sense if you engaged with her. In the old version you just ignored her.)
Yes, some changes were made to his behavior in class. You either like them or you don't.



Yes, her first interaction was changed. It's just a glimpse now, but that doesn't mean that's all Chapter 2 will show of her.
So wait for the second part of an unfinished rework. Ugh.



Now it's getting interesting.
Are you actually trying to explain an irrational reaction to me? Because that's what panic attacks are.
They don't follow any stigma, they don't care about certain criteria being met. (Is stigma the right word?)

And trust me, I know how they work.

"Sorry bud, your trauma/situation isn't enough for a panic attack! Sorry!"
"*Panic attack stops immediately*"

If you pay close attention, they don't happen randomly, there's always something connected to it.



I just have to completely disagree with this one.
In the old version, the MC appeared to be much more creepy and unapproachable.
Now Maja and the MC chatted for a bit before being tackled by a Raccoon.

Also, when did the MC ever act like an asshole to Maja?
- All Maja saw of the MC was him being in the hospital, being the one that "helped" Vic while she was on the ground.
- Then came to the hospital and gave her the purse back, there he almost never addressed Maja directly. (You can pick a choice in their only interaction.)
- Then Vic asks Maja to find you. She does, they have a more intimate chat than in the old version, and she listens through the door (Didn't do that in the old one.), in which he has a totally normal convo with Vic, saying stuff like "You're a positive person. That's the essence to happiness." instead of talking about animals, and optionally raping dolphins.

Ugh! Man, what a fucking asshole emotard he has become.



And scenes like these are exactly the reason why the rework had to happen. It's out of character for Chapter 3 Mila and above.
She has more style than this.

In the end, I'm not saying most of your points are wrong. We all just have a different point of view, and judge scenes by how we see the world.
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personally, I think everything in the rework is perfect

wait... did ocean just say where he's from

it's normal to see people topless

excuse me I have to go catch a plane real quick

hello ocean pick me up at the airport
 
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Vidal the king of Pervert said:
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Hey, at least Bella's still a loveable immature bitch with deep, psychological issues ;)

As for the MC in the early versions, choosing the most A-Hole options had no believable consequences. The game might as well been Cuntswell Academy. Treating Vic like absolute shit should've resulted in Maja harming the MC. Likewise, treating those at school like absolute shit - a) they wouldn't associate with him and b) Jeff would've kicked his ass already.
 
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Acsuka said:
Guys, why are all the good girls here blonde? Only Nami got hair dye?
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People like blondes? Not all, but many of them. I'm wrong guy to ask, hair isn't high on my list. Probably Ocean just found blond hair color at very favorable price... (read:cheap)
 
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