VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[hahequ]

I think it would be absolutely bonkers if Ocean was able to connect WIAB and SG to the point that the well known characters from WIAB would be slowly appearing in SG(either story relevant or just as cameos) I don't think that's something that has been done and it would make the game even more interesting and unique
WIAB - telling the origins story and giving us some hints at upcoming SG stuff
SG - developing the story forward

I know that there could be some issues due to different choices and possibly being forced to set a canon branch but it is definitely doable

 

[Kassandara]

I think it would be absolutely bonkers if Ocean was able to connect WIAB and SG to the point that the well known characters from WIAB would be slowly appearing in SG(either story relevant or just as cameos) I don't think that's something that has been done and it would make the game even more interesting and unique
WIAB - telling the origins story and giving us some hints at upcoming SG stuff
SG - developing the story forward

I know that there could be some issues due to different choices and possibly being forced to set a canon branch but it is definitely doable

We might have already seen some WiAB characters in SG, Amber's friend from the reworked ch2 comes to my mind.
I'm not saying she 100% is from wiab but I just had a feeling about the interaction between her and Nika.

If there is no WiAB characters yet in SG, I definitely think there will be in the future.

 

[Don Sucio]

We might have already seen some WiAB characters in SG, Amber's friend from the reworked ch2 comes to my mind.
I'm not saying she 100% is from wiab but I just had a feeling about the interaction between her and Nika.

If there is no WiAB characters yet in SG, I definitely think there will be in the future.

Maybe , but not like main characters, i think will be only cameos

 

[Turret]

Maybe , but not like main characters, i think will be only cameos

Yes, I think so as well, that the WIAB main characters will be cameos or some small talk scenes only.

 

[Ayhsel]

We might have already seen some WiAB characters in SG, Amber's friend from the reworked ch2 comes to my mind.
I'm not saying she 100% is from wiab but I just had a feeling about the interaction between her and Nika.

If there is no WiAB characters yet in SG, I definitely think there will be in the future.

They might. Main problem with using them too much is that it might become impossible to avoid suggesting that certain path is canon in WIAB. Like WIAB MC ending up with a particular girl, or x character being alive or things like that.

I am not saying that there is no canon, just that it can become problematic.

 

[rudy007]

Maybe , but not like main characters, i think will be only cameos

I'm interested how the main cast of WAIB will look about 20 years older, as MILFs. It will be difficult to beat miss Von Halen. She should be around WIAB main cast age.

 

[Turret]

They might. Main problem with using them too much is that it might become impossible to avoid suggesting that certain path is canon in WIAB. Like WIAB MC ending up with a particular girl, or x character being alive or things like that.

I am not saying that there is no canon, just that it can become problematic.

Exactly. That is why e.g. Don Sucio and I estimate that the main characters of WIAB will pop up as cameos or some small talk/background scenes only.Anything more would set a certain path towards obvious canon. Well, Ocean has his specific canon storyline, but as we can see with how many characters of SG could be the children of X or Y from WIAB, he tries to keep SG open to what the various players of WIAB were up to and not forcing one storyline.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Exactly. That is why e.g. Don Sucio and I estimate that the main characters of WIAB will pop up as cameos or some small talk/background scenes only.Anything more would set a certain path towards obvious canon. Well, Ocean has his specific canon storyline, but as we can see with how many characters of SG could be the children of X or Y from WIAB, he tries to keep SG open to what the various players of WIAB were up to and not forcing one storyline.

I'd sugget Ocean is also trying to avoid spoilers from SG weakening the impact of WIAB. If something starts feeling too obvious, Ocean will probably obscure the connection until it's clear in both games: Ocean won't want SG to foreshadow WIAB seeing SG is about two decades after. They're the same universe, the same big families, but we don't know why some things repeat or are familiar. It's like the first time Zara interacts with the Nika is a foreshadowing. Ocean seems to like people getting the lightbulb moment when things start making sense.

We've already seen the connections with Ayua, the Holgersons, the Frohns, ZPR etc. My guess is that Ocean is cutting up a lot of what was in the original WIAB, simply to make it more compelling rather than 6 chapters of remake/catchup. The very name of WIAB shows its plot sets all the dramas in motion in the Oceanverse. SG is one continuing thread from WIAB, and the remaining games Ocean has planned might follow the development of other characters from WIAB or SG. For example (as complete speculation); Ayua might be off the table as a LI because Ocean might already have a plot line for her in a third game that needs her unattached for canon reasons. One game might be the events Summer goes through, her side of the drama.

My guess is that we'll see the convergence of plot lines: as more of WIAB's canon plot is revealed, we'll see the easter eggs already placed in SG.

 

[Vopeco]

Exactly. That is why e.g. Don Sucio and I estimate that the main characters of WIAB will pop up as cameos or some small talk/background scenes only.Anything more would set a certain path towards obvious canon. Well, Ocean has his specific canon storyline, but as we can see with how many characters of SG could be the children of X or Y from WIAB, he tries to keep SG open to what the various players of WIAB were up to and not forcing one storyline.

Ayua has already said Katie is her aunt so that ship has sailed in my mind. I just hope I don't hear much more about how Willi ended up with Miru, because there's a 0% chance my Willi is going to end up with Miru, and hearing that kind of stuff spoils your own WIAB playthrough a little.

 

[rudy007]

Ayua has already said Katie is her aunt so that ship has sailed in my mind. I just hope I don't hear much more about how Willi ended up with Miru, because there's a 0% chance my Willi is going to end up with Miru, and hearing that kind of stuff spoils your own WIAB playthrough a little.

If we would speak about pre-revork Miru, I would say exactly what you said, bit new "improved" Miru, she's hot girl and I would have no problem to end up with her. Even if the competition along girls is fierce...

 

[Enola Gay]

No news, he hasn't elaborated on that ever. I assume story spoilers are involved. But keep in mind he has to respect Patreon's TOS so Nami is Nika's roommate, and if Nika and Ayua were canon half-siblings as a consequence from WIAB it would be troublesome to deal with her being a LI.


Well, he forgot what he had in mind for her yeah. Anyway status has always been up to date with the latest he has said. She's the only LI so far I've had to downgrade to non-LI.
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As my dude Lebowski have said. This is a bummer.

I find Maja the most attractive girl in the entire game. Maybe because she seems sad most of the time, maybe because she is visually attractive or maybe because she seems to be more mature than the whole rest. All the other girls in this game seem very childish, especially Victoria = a big no no for me.

Anyway, SG it's a really great game. For now, I think it is the best, far ahead the other popular games like BADIK or other harem college games...
But as always there are few things that always show up somehow in those games which I don't like...

Every girl is a supermodel, every guy is handsome, almost every girl has big- to huge breasts with big cleavage. Too many exobitionists. There are no ugly people, which is a shame. More variety would be better and more fresh I guess.

And final word - I wish SG could keep up the darker tone for longer. I'm counting on some twists which make MC lost again.
Such a battle shouldn't be so easy to win with such a trauma in the past.

 

[Don Sucio]

All the other girls in this game seem very childish, especially Victoria = a big no no for me.

And final word - I wish SG could keep up the darker tone for longer. I'm counting on some twists which make MC lost again.
Such a battle shouldn't be so easy to win with such a trauma in the past.

I´m with you here, the personality of Victoria cringe me very much, i understand her accident but man... is too much for me .

About dark routes i don´t know why Ocean decided to reduces it, i think this dark routes are a good spice for the game, make it different to others, and of course for people with dark fetish is good that this routes exists... So more options for players in the end. Anyway is a good new that Ocean has returned one dark route that he eliminated in the beginning, i don´t know what it is and how darker will be but it´s a good sign.

 

[rudy007]

I´m with you here, the personality of Victoria cringe me very much, i understand her accident but man... is too much for me .

About dark routes i don´t know why Ocean decided to reduces it, i think this dark routes are a good spice for the game, make it different to others, and of course for people with dark fetish is good that this routes exists... So more options for players in the end. Anyway is a good new that Ocean has returned one dark route that he eliminated in the beginning, i don´t know what it is and how darker will be but it´s a good sign.

Agree about Victoria, she entered quickly in MC life, yes, she's childish. Understandable, I too feel for her. When I saw her on the wheelchair, It was tough to see her, acting tough up to the point when the present catch with her. Heavy scene. I hope she will walk again, but she isn't my top 10 girl choice.
About dark routes, I think Ocean underestimated how many more time and resources he will to put into game and he simple cut them (all of them, or?) We'll probably never know what could be else in those routes, but after Ocean's decision, it isn't important now.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Summers Gone seems to have really atmospheric settings. No matter if its sunlight shining through the windows after dawn like during the yoga session or stellar backgrounds like the football field lights at night.

I really enjoy things like that in visual novels. Also the faces look pretty for DAZ.

Yes, the lighting and camera work are very cinematic. Not just the animated cut scenes, but also the static scenes. It's one of the first things that I noticed about Ocean's work and I absolutely love it.
It's obvious he knows more about the technical details of movie production than an average joe and pays lots of attention to his scenes from that educated, artistic point of view.

 

[RNasc4444]

I'm guessing unicorns are real in SG's world too huh? Bitch had a boobjob while in the hospital from the accident that left her unable to walk. How is no one else pointing this out!?!?!

 

[Deleted member 327695]

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I'm guessing unicorns are real in SG's world too huh? Bitch had a boobjob while in the hospital from the accident that left her unable to walk. How is no one else pointing this out!?!?!

Because we're still waiting for you to deliver on the "broken English and the grammar errors [that] stick out like a gangrenous wound" from the rework.
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-10713811

So I can actually fix them, and learn from them.

Or did you just want to steer shit up again as always?

And final word - I wish SG could keep up the darker tone for longer. I'm counting on some twists which make MC lost again.
Such a battle shouldn't be so easy to win with such a trauma in the past.

SG will always have an underlying dark tone.
Depression and mental health issues are like a lingering shadow.

Obviously, at some point, it will reduce in its severity, but trauma never really leaves you.
Trauma is a seasoning to life.

Ayua has already said Katie is her aunt so that ship has sailed in my mind. I just hope I don't hear much more about how Willi ended up with Miru, because there's a 0% chance my Willi is going to end up with Miru, and hearing that kind of stuff spoils your own WIAB playthrough a little.

That's why I keep saying, that every player should consider his own playthrough as canon. No matter what's being hinted at in the other games.
I sadly don't have the resources to implement choices from WiAB into SG.
The scope of this (integrating 5 Games with thousands of choices) would probably even make a big Triple-A Studio cry.

I'm trying to keep it somewhat vague, but some plot points I just need to force.
I can only tell you to pretend that your own experience is the real deal. (I might give a little choice at some point in SG (To pick your WiAB Li), to at least cater some dialogue to your own experience.

Sorry, but that's all I can offer atm.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

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I'm guessing unicorns are real in SG's world too huh? Bitch had a boobjob while in the hospital from the accident that left her unable to walk. How is no one else pointing this out!?!?!

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[StultusAnglicus]

Because we're still waiting for you to deliver on the "broken English and the grammar errors [that] stick out like a gangrenous wound" from the rework.
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-10713811

So I can actually fix them, and learn from them.

Or did you just want to stir shit up again as always?

OCEANLAB HIMSELF came to clap some cheeks today

 

[fute8848]

Nami/Bella is in the list, I'm already happy...

Yep, i am happy too; it will make me happier if i got to see this threesome before i hit 50 XD

 

[TheSweetEvilKing]

??? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT GAME UPDATE BY OCEAN WILL BE NEXT ???
Where it all Began or Summers Gone ? TY