Old Man Al

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Hi, just a little curious, is summer gone and where it all began related? Or do they live in one universe?
They are related, play in the same universe/city - Where it all began plays just around 25 years before Summers gone. Some characters will be in both VNs and it is strongly hinted there are some or even many family relationships between the casts.
 
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They are related, play in the same universe/city - Where it all began plays just around 25 years before Summers gone. Some characters will be in both VNs and it is strongly hinted there are some or even many family relationships between the casts.
they were related before the third remake , after that i don't think they are related so far
 

rudy007

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yeah you are right ! I'm not expert but Ocean's art literally different from others

I always remember MC / Bella burger scene (background, animation, lighting, facial expressions...) dude this is another level :love:
Those animated scenes are very hardware intensive and only few developers can do that. If you don't have top hardware it will not work. And most developers aren't ready to buy professional graphic cards.
There are a few devs who make a game with laptops, and then are surprised when that thing cook himself.
Ocean invested heavy in hardware, has two dedicated machines to make renders and animations... You could buy a good car for that money.
 

dorleans

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Those animated scenes are very hardware intensive and only few developers can do that. If you don't have top hardware it will not work. And most developers aren't ready to buy professional graphic cards.
There are a few devs who make a game with laptops, and then are surprised when that thing cook himself.
Ocean invested heavy in hardware, has two dedicated machines to make renders and animations... You could buy a good car for that money.
And somebody like inceton has five, churning out slightly improved iterations of the exact same animations as every other VN over and over again. Ocean's work has a genuinely unique personal aesthetic. I've watched him develop it over the years as he improved his technical proficiency. His investments in hardware have been made in pursuit of the realization of something no one else is attempting at all.
 

johnsman

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whether we choose to kiss bella or not at the end of our date seems to be an important branching point, as she doesn't visit the mc at the end of the last update if we don't kiss. is that the only chance we will get for starting a romantic relationship with her or will there be other ones in the future? does anyone have any idea?
 

PaxHadrian17

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whether we choose to kiss bella or not at the end of our date seems to be an important branching point, as she doesn't visit the mc at the end of the last update if we don't kiss. is that the only chance we will get for starting a romantic relationship with her or will there be other ones in the future? does anyone have any idea?
We don't know if that is the only Bella = Yes/No to a relationship.

This would be a good save point once CH 5 goes final (so all the rework and potential pathing is included in any choice you make).

It feels like it will take some time for another LI to take over the Bella spot if you go with Bella No Kiss.
 
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Seriously can't wait for some more updates and the story to develop, especially with my dear ol Bella.:love:

Also, Idk why, but I prefer Bella's route over the others.. I think in some way it might be because my brain thinks "Hmm.. two damaged people.. they would make a good pair.. Help each other through the shit".. But also b/c I especially just don't like Nami's character.. Idk why, she just seems a lil too wannabe goody-two-shoes and way too damn clingy for my taste tbh..

Like, just because I wanna do stuff on my own without telling you my every damn move, or disagree with you, you finna start screamin n fightin n accusing me n shit?:WaitWhat: Like, gurl.. grow up.:FacePalm: Not everyone loves you n the world sure as hell doesn't revolve around your wants; specially not when there are prettier characters for my Mc to shack up with:rolleyes:

And the others just haven't really managed to capture my attention or intrigue me like Bella does...

Well, yet, at least. Never know what the future might hold.:WeSmart:
 

JJ1960

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Seriously can't wait for some more updates and the story to develop, especially with my dear ol Bella.:love:

Also, Idk why, but I prefer Bella's route over the others.. I think in some way it might be because my brain thinks "Hmm.. two damaged people.. they would make a good pair.. Help each other through the shit".. But also b/c I especially just don't like Nami's character.. Idk why, she just seems a lil too wannabe goody-two-shoes and way too damn clingy for my taste tbh..

Like, just because I wanna do stuff on my own without telling you my every damn move, or disagree with you, you finna start screamin n fightin n accusing me n shit?:WaitWhat: Like, gurl.. grow up.:FacePalm: Not everyone loves you n the world sure as hell doesn't revolve around your wants; specially not when there are prettier characters for my Mc to shack up with:rolleyes:

And the others just haven't really managed to capture my attention or intrigue me like Bella does...

Well, yet, at least. Never know what the future might hold.:WeSmart:
In real life two damaged people don't usually work out. MC is seeing a therapist and it's possible that what he learns Bella will actually listen to since it's not coming (directly) from her mom.

Nami has been in love with MC since before Summer came along. We don't know a lot about what happened between the two girls once Summer and MC started their relationship, and there have been plenty of yandere plots dreamed up about Nami, but she was also there and stuck with MC through his extreme problem periods after Summer disappeared and before the setting of this story. Nami is as emotionally stunted as MC due to her devotion to him; she turned down dates with other boys and other activities throughout her teenage years just to be with and watch over MC, and her childish and excessive antics have been the only way to get a reaction out of him so he didn't spiral down even further. I don't think she knows how to relate to MC any better than she does now, though his awakening sexual attraction to her will probably force her to confront how she presents herself to him, especially now that she has real competition for his attention and affection. Vanessa's coaching will probably help her to understand how to have MC see her as a woman and not a frantic girl-child in a grown-up body.

As to the other girls, just wait and see what Nadia really does with that banana when she thinks nobody is watching...
 
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