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ok, so you've seen that Ocean works on WIAB every other day, good
why do you count days where he works on WIAB as days where he could make SG renders? a month and a half would make it only 3 weeks where he worked on SG. you could still claim "he could've done 600 renders in that time but instead did nothing" but I guess it doesn't sound as good as "he could do 3 times more than he promised"
By the way, have you noticed how the number of "promised" renders went from 450 in log 7 to 350-550 in log 9 to 250-350 in log 10. Maybe that would give you a hint that renders aren't made just for the sake of making renders but are made to illustrate the story, and as scenes change during writing and editing (which is what Ocean said he was doing at least in dev logs 8 and 10, but I guess we're a few dozen comments too early to move on from "no renders" = "doing nothing" part), the number of renders also changes. Sometimes the scene is too short and you need more dialogue and renders. Sometimes you see that it drags on forever and make it shorter, reducing the number of renders needed. And sometimes you realize that it just doesn't make sense and remove it completely, along with any renders you've already made for that scene
Seriously, if you can't see the stuttering of the lower fps in both of your links even when they are not moving fast, the problem is because of your lousy vision capabilities, not because the general human eyes can't see it.
And hell no, the Matrix isn't even anywhere close to being the first to shoot at a higher fps and play it back at lower fps to show "slow motion". This elementary trick has been in use for DECADES before Matrix.
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Just looked at his "evidence". I can't understand how is there no difference. 60 fps - the picture is smooth and small details are visible, 12 fps is like a slideshow. It is especially noticeable when the object moves quickly.
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I was going to bow out but you're triggering me waaaaaaay too much. All video is static images. Each frame is a static image. the number of frames per second is how many static renders are needed each second for the frame rate. Simple tv has been 30 where I live for over two decades. Most people can notice lip sync with one frame when watching carefully.
The difference with an action game is that the render is done by the gamers video card as they move the character through the world and introduces latency and processing. VNs use static images which are prerendered, meaning they are just video files.
At least know what you're talking about.
As to what Ocean is or isn't doing - we only know what he openly talks about in devlogs, but that doesn't mean that's all he's done. Have you ever being involved in a creative field? It is common to work for 8 hours on lighting a scene only to trash it and go back to square one because you're not liking the results. Maybe you decide to stage a different scene, or change the models. All of this takes time, and most people understand that it is necessary. When I reference animations or linking the script to the renders, the transistions and the music, I am trying to suggest that Ocean isn't merely doing data entry: Ocean doesn't sit infront of a computer musing "render in render out, oh look another render out of thin air to add to the queue, I wonder who stages the scene and the lighting for me?" It'a all work, and it's not linear. Somethings take longer time because they don't feel the way they were imagined.
The actual artwork side takes time and Ocean doesn't really say too much about that, or what happens when the picture just isn't coming together in a desired way.
Then there is the phone system Ocean has repeatedly mentioned developing, which requires coding, because the person hired to expedite the coding didn't come through.
If you were a paying patron, you'd bring it up with Ocean, but instead you're talking with strangers on the internet.
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i mean i vote for Belle, but what about Maja, she isn't even in the vote.
600 renders on SG and 600 on Wiab. This is exactly what gets 3 times more than the promised 450 renders if rounded up.
Why has the number of renders increased? 1660 (1350+310) if you round 1700 another 450 Ocean plans to make. A month and a half later, I quote Ocean: So, I'm around 1700 still renders in, and I think another 250-350 need to be made... To sum up the results for a month and a half, Ocean decided to reduce from 450 to 250-350.
You got into someone else's conversation but you never had the mind to figure out what was at stake. Maybe you should figure it out at the beginning and then write your comments?
So what movie was it used in? If you are talking about frame-by-frame filming, then this is completely different.
Well, why did you write the same thing as me only in a long version?
I love reading Ocean's logs and laughing all the time as I read them. Although if you do not understand the PC, then you can not read it, you still will not understand.
Haven't laughed this hard in a long time, did Ocean write that? Only those who have never rendered can believe in such stupidity. I could still believe if you said 1 hour, during which time you can remake the light slowly 6 times. Although you can start doing lighting, then go to bed, wake up and finish the job, only in this case you can believe that it took 8 hours.
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What BobTheDuck said is true. I'm practicing rendering. Creating good, proper lighting is one of the most difficult tasks in preparing a scene. On a par with manual posing when it comes to DAZ.
You don't necessarily have to do 8 hours of manual work, but you seem to have forgotten about the render time in order to re-render the fixed scene again. Ocean's renders are in very high quality and processing one such render can take several hours. Even on top hardware.
You don't seem to know anything about this, but you try to argue with people for the sake of argument, acting arrogant and insulting everyone in a row, repeatedly breaking the rules. It would be better if you left this place and stopped doing off-topic.
I myself don't support Ocean's decisions in everything and I am not an ardent fan of his and I support criticism, but what you do is just shitposting and arguing with everyone for nothing. This is not criticism.
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I have done a lot of renders. A LOT. Some posted on these forums. Funnily enough lighting is often the biggest thing. It really can make, or break, a scene. So getting the lighting correct for 8 hours can happen. Perhaps on the more rare side of things but it is not in the realm of impossible. There is, generally, a lot to take into consideration rather than just dumping a HDRI and a few secondary sources. To really get the more top end of graphic fidelity you have to take everything into consideration otherwise your work will like like most other Daz AVNs out there. Flat and soulless visually.
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chop chop dev boy release the next update
and it better have at least 6 hours worth of content
1 hour for each month it takes your slow af a$$ to press render and code some lines fr fr
and it better have at least 6 hours worth of content
1 hour for each month it takes your slow af a$$ to press render and code some lines fr fr
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Thanks! Do you know why the signature is so good? It was made by my friend on request, who sees more than 14 FPSDude I loved your second sign. GO DJ KinK!
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I've played through the current version of Summer's Gone a "few" (like 15 times, or so), but realized just right now, how cute these two are together. I think they would make an adorable couple.
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This girl reminds me of someone. She also has a scar.Me reading the last... well feels like a hundred pages of this thread
At least waifu wars are morefuntolerable.
WS is banned so I have to represent
Cheers!
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Wrong girl posted,KassandaraMe reading the last... well feels like a hundred pages of this thread
At least waifu wars are morefuntolerable.
WS is banned so I have to represent
Cheers!
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there is only one divine heavenly redhead girl you can go for,
the wonderful angel of love Nia !!
Mila died after yet another failed breast augmentation,
Victoria died by falling from the highest stairs in her wheelchair,
Bella had her throat cut by a jealous,
obsessed Nami,
who was then sentenced to life imprisonment.
And in the end Sacha ran off with Jeff and all his friends,
so she gets now the most beautiful gang bang every night,
And so the the golden heavenly road is open for the only girl that matters !!
Nia is love,hope and lust,
Nia is everything,ti amo my darling
Alady,Alady !!
