VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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yossa999

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Kansier said:
We can also look at Ocean's other work "Where it all began" there the MC have little roomie and twin roomie who for some reason have the same surname (Zane). so yes there is no incest in this game
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Yes, it's pure coincidence that their last name is Zane. This guy on the pic is also Zane, you won't insist that he's Willy's roommate, right? Check and mate!
 
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rudy007

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yossa999 said:
Yes, it's pure coincidence that their last name is Zane. This guy on the pic is also Zane, you won't insist that he's Willy's roommate, right? Check and mate!
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Roommate's long missing stepfather's brother? Old Zane, you don't know him!? ;)
 
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m111m123

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Geralt From Rivia said:
I've only seen such crowded scenes in one other game, and it was done on 2xRTX3090 (48GB combined). The most important thing is the amount of memory.
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You're only half right, not everything depends on video cards. Without a large amount of Ram and a fast ssd, video cards will stand idle without work.
PS Is the amount of video memory added up when rendering?
 
Don Sucio

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Harveztrau said:
Russian is useless (unless you're into Tarkovsky or our old movies), but German is a good choice (more books, movies, and music)
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I don't think so, I mean, if you want to learn some languages just because they are practical, you might be interested in English, French, Spanish or even Chinese, but now I personally know two of them, so the next language I would choose to learn it has to be something "exotic" for me, like Russian or German, those two languages are very different with my main language, so I am interested in them.
 
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Don Sucio said:
I don't think so, I mean, if you want to learn some languages just because they are practical, you might be interested in English, French, Spanish or even Chinese, but now I personally know two of them, so the next language I would choose to learn it has to be something "exotic" for me, like Russian or German, those two languages are very different with my main language, so I am interested in them.
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Russia is a slavic language, they are pretty much famous to be tough to learn, plus Cyrillic alphabet. Not impossible, but tough. Anybody who I know and tried to learn German, but knowing English, failed. I went the opposite way and you can judge yourself... ;) It's probably a question of your primary language. Some languages are just difficult to master. But, yeah, I would like to learn one Asian language, Chinese or Japanese. That would be a real challenge... :)
 
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rudy007 said:
Russia is a slavic language, they are pretty much famous to be tough to learn, plus Cyrillic alphabet. Not impossible, but tough. Anybody who I know and tried to learn German, but knowing English, failed. I went the opposite way and you can judge yourself... ;) It's probably a question of your primary language. Some languages are just difficult to master. But, yeah, I would like to learn one Asian language, Chinese or Japanese. That would be a real challenge... :)
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Yeah uh... So my first language is Finnish, we also learn Swedish and English in school. Then I tried to learn Russian myself.. I pretty much learned the alphabet and gave up :KEK: I took up German instead. I'd also like to learn one Asian language one day, and French for some reason.
 
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rudy007 said:
Russia is a slavic language, they are pretty much famous to be tough to learn, plus Cyrillic alphabet. Not impossible, but tough. Anybody who I know and tried to learn German, but knowing English, failed. I went the opposite way and you can judge yourself... ;) It's probably a question of your primary language. Some languages are just difficult to master. But, yeah, I would like to learn one Asian language, Chinese or Japanese. That would be a real challenge... :)
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Partly that´s one of the reasons languages like Russian attract me, it´s a really complicated language, but i have a friend who due to the war between Russian and Ucraine has began to learn Russian , he is beginning but a few weeks ago he taught me some Russian and it´s really interesting and very different with my language, simply it attracts to me.
 
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Agree, we should stop our language debate before mods try to find us at home. With a whip in their hand... And not in a fun way... Kassandara Finnish, agree, difficult and not compatible with any other language, but Hungarian, if I remember correctly. I heard it only few times an my own. Loved Finnish F1 drivers... :)
 
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m111m123 said:
You're only half right, not everything depends on video cards. Without a large amount of Ram and a fast ssd, video cards will stand idle without work.
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This time you are right, for example DAZ Studio is very demanding on RAM at the very beginning of rendering, and if all the RAM is full, then software crashing. But this problem is still much more easily solved at penny prices for RAM.

Having an SSD isn't that critical, but it's still a nice bonus when you have a scene and props that loads faster. I set up a folder for my library on the M2 and it's great.
PS Is the amount of video memory added up when rendering?
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this no longer works with the RTX 4090, Huang removed NVLink. Actually, as in the entire 4000 generation.
 
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Don Sucio said:
Partly that´s one of the reasons languages like Russian attract me, it´s a really complicated language, but i have a friend who due to the war between Russian and Ucraine has began to learn Russian , he is beginning but a few weeks ago he taught me some Russian and it´s really interesting and very different with my language, simply it attracts to me.
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Having studied French helped me with Russian. There are a lot of French cognates in Russian, back from the time of the Czars and the aristocracy spoke French. German was tough for me, even though my native language is English. I'm with you in wanting to learn an Asian language. Japanese fascinates me (and is very pleasing to my ear like French).

My favorite language learning tool are movies, especially ones you are familiar with, in the language you want to learn. Helps a lot with slang and the difference between the book/university version of a language and the common spoken version.

Back to on topic, eagerly awaiting more Summer's Gone...sounds like it might actually be soon(tm).
 
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rudy007 said:
Anybody who I know and tried to learn German, but knowing English, failed.
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That is not unusual, but could be prevented if how German is taught to English speakers ischanged. I have seen too many German courses where the english natives got fed with "German is tough" and "German is like English, but you have to move the verbs to the end". Which is complete BS!
When you make an English sentence for a couple centuries now, it has the strict SVO sequence, subject, then verb then object. While a simple German sentence with one verb seems to be the same and often said so in German courses, it is grammatically fundamental different!
German syntax is of the cross-linguistically very rare V2/OV type. Conjugated/auxilliary verb second component of the sentence, all other verbs last. It is actually the situation that a simple one verb sentence, despite how common and often used it is, is a big grammatical exception!
German (and Dutch, which linguistically is a western low Franconian dialect, no offence meant) grammar is very consistently showing a "verb last" deep structure, like Japanese, Mongolian or the languages of India. The V2 phenomenom and the mixed headedness of the grammar components, which is why we say "Doktor Müller" and not "Müller Doktor" as in some other verb last languages, of German might be a development due to the fact that German and Dutch are completely surrounded by "object last" languages.
 
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Turret said:
That is not unusual, but could be prevented if how German is taught to English speakers ischanged. I have seen too many German courses where the english natives got fed with "German is tough" and "German is like English, but you have to move the verbs to the end". Which is complete BS!
When you make an English sentence for a couple centuries now, it has the strict SVO sequence, subject, then verb then object. While a simple German sentence with one verb seems to be the same and often said so in German courses, it is grammatically fundamental different!
German syntax is of the cross-linguistically very rare V2/OV type. Conjugated/auxilliary verb second component of the sentence, all other verbs last. It is actually the situation that a simple one verb sentence, despite how common and often used it is, is a big grammatical exception!
German (and Dutch, which linguistically is a western low Franconian dialect, no offence meant) grammar is very consistently showing a "verb last" deep structure, like Japanese, Mongolian or the languages of India. The V2 phenomenom and the mixed headedness of the grammar components, which is why we say "Doktor Müller" and not "Müller Doktor" as in some other verb last languages, of German might be a development due to the fact that German and Dutch are completely surrounded by "object last" languages.
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When I started with English, it was so much easier for me. Grammar is less complex than German. There are many similar words.
One of my friends learned English in Germany. My god... I don't know how they learn it, but it should be British English, but its horrible to hear it. I learned English over a year in a language school and then in university (IT, let's be clear, with all localization, without English, you're screwed in IT.) I learned it more American English. And I never had problems with speech...
But we should return to Summer's Gone, before mods find this and begin to pull out their hair out and try to find out our real address... With a loaded gun... ;)
 
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