VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Ayhsel]

Considering the fact that if i remember correct ocean has said he has finished writing the general story for all 32 chapters i doubt it will be abandoned. for the fact that he has done that much writing and the fact he is looking at dropping 10k+ on a pc for rendering it shows dedication to finishing it. I will say though chapter 16 sounds about right on when he will most likely want to restart again for the fact of how much more detail you will probably be able to get in renders and animations in 4-6 years when he is at chapter 16.

That is NOT how life works.

I really hope he stays in the project. But the longer a project is, the higher the likelihood it will not be complete. Life events such as job, family, health and other stuff has a higher chance of hitting the project for the simple reason of longer time available to appear. Plus his own desires can change over time.

And for the love of all that is sweet and chocolate, why the fuck are you suggesting he restarts the development? Again!
This novel is already way past the necessary quality in terms of rendering and even more in terms of animations. It reached the point in which any computing power/development experience would be better used increasing speed, not quality. There are huge dimishing returns to further increase quality.

So no more crazy ideas about redevelopment, please!

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Hey gang, how about we discuss music instead of waifu wars and troll fights? Personally, I find the soundtrack in SG quite depressing, but I've come up with a few powerful favorites:

1. Plays during the first kiss with Bella.

2. All tracks of Grace Mesa, the best music anti-depressant.

3. Nami vs Bella fight

4.Tennis training. Also gives BaDIK vibes

5. And my favorite track. Velvethead is something next level. Band name almost like in Become a Rockstar

What about the rest of you, do you have any favorite tracks?

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Hey gang, how about we discuss music instead of waifu wars and troll fights? Personally, I find the soundtrack in SG quite depressing, but I've come up with a few powerful favorites:

1. Plays during the first kiss with Bella.

2. All tracks of Grace Mesa, the best music anti-depressant.

3. Nami vs Bella fight

4.Tennis training. Also gives BaDIK vibes

5. And my favorite track. Velvethead is something next level. Band name almost like in Become a Rockstar

What about the rest of you, do you have any favorite tracks?

N°2 and 3 are my favourites.
Also all the ambient musics from Vesky, they are so calm and so peaceful

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

N°2 and 3 are my favourites.
Also all the ambient musics from Vesky, they are so calm and so peaceful

Ambient has never been my theme, too depressing, sad, slow. But I understand that perhaps Ocean, through this style of music, conveys his emotional state to the game.

 

[Orgitas]

The best way to counter the depressing emo hmmm... flaccid... nature of the MC is to play happy music! Cartoons - witch doctor is always a great choice during the My Chemical Romance teenage dirtbag moments.

 

[Ulrich von Liechtenstein]

You know guys I remember when I first heard the news about 32 parts, I thought the game would be abandoned for sure. And it's really true, with the speed with which the parts are released we will have to wait at least 10 years. And here's the thought that came to my mind, why doesn't Ocean try to create a development team since he has so many fans? He can recruit a couple of capable guys and increase the speed of work.
I'm a perfectionist myself and I don't like to share my work with anyone but at some point I just realized that there are only 24 hours in a day and even if you put aside all the family stuff you can hardly do everything alone. Yes, of course a creative union is always a complicated story but artists somehow find a common language when they work on huge canvases. Why doesn't Ocean try it?
I don't know but it seems to me that it is impossible to do everything alone, unless you set yourself the task of becoming something like Michelangelo.

 

[JJJ84]

I will say though chapter 16 sounds about right on when he will most likely want to restart again for the fact of how much more detail you will probably be able to get in renders and animations in 4-6 years when he is at chapter 16.

lol As Ayhsel pointed out above, the game is already vastly superior in terms of renders and animations compared to almost all other VNs with its visual quality (at this point pretty much skyrocketing past "looks good", and going much, much further than "it's simply beautiful"), so why should he even do another rework?

And sure. In 4 to 6 years, with better GPUs there will probably will be other games where visual quality becomes on par (or is greater than) Ocean's SG and WIAB.
However, even with that being the case, I'd say Ocean should not do another rework.
Doing another rework while the game is still being developed will only serve to be detriment to the speed of development, especially with a game that already looks good enough.

If he really wants to do another rework, he should really only consider after SG is completed.
I get that Ocean is a quality junkie (and I mean that as a compliment), but there needs to come a point where he says "It's enough."
Otherwise, he'll just be trapped in an endless cycle of reworks without finishing his games.

 

[Orgitas]

You know guys I remember when I first heard the news about 32 parts, I thought the game would be abandoned for sure. And it's really true, with the speed with which the parts are released we will have to wait at least 10 years. And here's the thought that came to my mind, why doesn't Ocean try to create a development team since he has so many fans? He can recruit a couple of capable guys and increase the speed of work.
I'm a perfectionist myself and I don't like to share my work with anyone but at some point I just realized that there are only 24 hours in a day and even if you put aside all the family stuff you can hardly do everything alone. Yes, of course a creative union is always a complicated story but artists somehow find a common language when they work on huge canvases. Why doesn't Ocean try it?
I don't know but it seems to me that it is impossible to do everything alone, unless you set yourself the task of becoming something like Michelangelo.

You can do it alone. Perfect example would be DPC who is the dev of one of the best AVNs in development. Also a team doesn't ensure a quicker dev time either - It can present its own problems which can lead to extended issues. Personally the whole 32 parts sounds ridiculous to me. If you do a steady 6 month release cycle that is still 16 years in total. Now as Ocean is working on WiaB as well.. That dev time will extend even more. So whether he can do this all is very bleak truth be told. However we can only ever wait and see.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Hey gang, how about we discuss music instead of waifu wars and troll fights? Personally, I find the soundtrack in SG quite depressing, but I've come up with a few powerful favorites:


What about the rest of you, do you have any favorite tracks?

unfortunately Wellmess had to be removed (the original Sai fight soundtrack)

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

unfortunately Wellmess had to be removed (the original Sai fight soundtrack)

Good track. Is this the same gang that butthurted on Ocean "REEEE REMOVE OUR TRACKS FROM YOUR PORN GAME!"?

 

[yossa999]

Hey gang, how about we discuss music instead of waifu wars and troll fights? Personally, I find the soundtrack in SG quite depressing, but I've come up with a few powerful favorites:
...
What about the rest of you, do you have any favorite tracks?

I seem to associate Grace Mesa's songs with the way the best AVNs sound these days. My favorite song is "The Long Way". When the "roomies" are about to leave the house and start their first day of college and this song begins to play, it sets the mood just right. It's like you feel their excitement and cheerful mood. The adventure begins!

 

[Doomyk]

MC and Summer on the basketball court... It turns out that the rumor that says Summer is a member of the women's basketball team may be true. This women's team is on vacation right now, so when this team returns, then we might see Summer.

Revera?

 

[sorco2003]

I seem to associate Grace Mesa's songs with the way the best AVNs sound these days. My favorite song is "The Long Way". When the "roomies" are about to leave the house and start their first day of college and this song begins to play, it sets the mood just right. It's like you feel their excitement and cheerful mood. The adventure begins!

I read Grace Mesa and I immediately think of another game... my brain fires run run running

 

[Uriel ☁]

2. All tracks of Grace Mesa, the best music anti-depressant.

The music at the end of ch4.5, when Bella comes back, is just... perfect.

One of the best music pick I've ever seen across all media for certainly the best cinematic in AVN history.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

Ambient has never been my theme, too depressing, sad, slow. But I understand that perhaps Ocean, through this style of music, conveys his emotional state to the game.

I can understand, it's kind of an acquired taste.
But I do feel the emotion meant in the scene thanks to those musics. Plus it makes for great calming session if life gets too hectic.

The music at the end of ch4.5, when Bella comes back, is just... perfect.

One of the best music pick I've ever seen across all media for certainly the best cinematic in AVN history.

Yep, I still go back to this scene just for that.
Perfectly chosen *chief's kiss*

 

[anonnyscouse]

You know guys I remember when I first heard the news about 32 parts, I thought the game would be abandoned for sure. And it's really true, with the speed with which the parts are released we will have to wait at least 10 years. And here's the thought that came to my mind, why doesn't Ocean try to create a development team since he has so many fans? He can recruit a couple of capable guys and increase the speed of work.
I'm a perfectionist myself and I don't like to share my work with anyone but at some point I just realized that there are only 24 hours in a day and even if you put aside all the family stuff you can hardly do everything alone. Yes, of course a creative union is always a complicated story but artists somehow find a common language when they work on huge canvases. Why doesn't Ocean try it?
I don't know but it seems to me that it is impossible to do everything alone, unless you set yourself the task of becoming something like Michelangelo.

Ocean has tried to outsource parts of the game in the past but has been let down, he had paid a coder who then failed to provide code (I think that was around ep 3) and in his most recent devlog he mentioned that he had outsourced a cinematic but has still not received it after an extended deadline so it's likely to be missing from the forthcoming update.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I seem to associate Grace Mesa's songs with the way the best AVNs sound these days. My favorite song is "The Long Way". When the "roomies" are about to leave the house and start their first day of college and this song begins to play, it sets the mood just right. It's like you feel their excitement and cheerful mood. The adventure begins!

It's good that Ocean dilutes the depressive mood with such bright moments and gives hope for a change in the situation for the better. This is such a "light at the end of the tunnel." Few developers know how to play with the soundtrack so well, I only know three of them.

I read Grace Mesa and I immediately think of another game... my brain fires run run running

You're welcome

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I can understand, it's kind of an acquired taste.
But I do feel the emotion meant in the scene thanks to those musics. Plus it makes for great calming session if life gets too hectic.

Some ambients are good in terms of quality. Worthy of being the Blade Runner soundtrack.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Good track. Is this the same gang that butthurted on Ocean "REEEE REMOVE OUR TRACKS FROM YOUR PORN GAME!"?

not sure. I know they're publishing it through the guys that went "we don't care if our artists agree to give you music you still can't use it"

 

[Matt2012021]

My hope when Summer shows up it doesn't turn out like Zoey from being a dik were I hate her