BobTheDuck

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For example, the Katie that Ayua mentioned is the Katie from WIAB, but around her 40s, right?

I thought I was really lost on things, but as I can see, Ocean still has to reveal a lot by developing his VNs, eh? I'm feeling a bit better now. Though I just saw this on the fan wiki:

"Bella wears a perfume with the same scent as Helen which consists of Amber/Iris/Neroli"

Where did that reference come from? It's these kind of things that are making me feel completely lost, you know?

I just replayed SG after all this time. I think it's time to replay WIAB as well then. Though, as I can feel, it won't help that much...right?
I think the thing to remember is it is a fan wiki, so fans try to be accurate, but they also want to appear to be the keepers of secret insider knowledge. I personally enjoy the easter eggs for the fourth wall continuity - they're often nods to things that the people in the scene will have no idea about - there is no way that Nika will know what Helen's perfume smells like, so it is asking us to either a) find some obscure connection like a conspiracy between Bella and Helen, or just assume that it's a timeless brand and it hints they share a certain sense of elegance or style. I can't remember it being mentioned like that, and if scents were mentioned, maybe it's just Ocean's favourite? Could just be a popular expensive brand that every well off girl in Wollust wears (so everyone, but Nami, Mila, Maja and Victoria? :sneaky: ). I don't think every detail is part of the plot, but I do enjoy trying to work out what are red herrings, what are details for the sake of writing style and what is genuinely deepening the plot.

I replayed the original WIAB and the current one to get a feel for what things have been kept so far and what's changed. Still can't guess. From the dev logs for WIAB though, there are some fairly significant character changes, so the plot is already moving into different territory, so the old version only gives indication of some of the broad themes (and places) that might remain consistent, rather than directly following the plot.
 

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I replayed the original WIAB and the current one to get a feel for what things have been kept so far and what's changed. Still can't guess. From the dev logs for WIAB though, there are some fairly significant character changes, so the plot is already moving into different territory, so the old version only gives indication of some of the broad themes (and places) that might remain consistent, rather than directly following the plot.
And that's exactly why I don't like to play the old versions in any game... It's confusing and sometimes annoying that when something changes drastically... Now I only choose the new versions, when there are two types, and every game is much more enjoyable because there is no the feeling of "what if"...
 

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Getting were I don't want to check out this thread sick of seeing and hearing about WIAB here said it before never once when playing Summers Gone has wiab crossed my mind maybe a little less talk about it here would be nice if you like wiab it has it on thread
 
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And that's exactly why I don't like to play the old versions in any game... It's confusing and sometimes annoying that when something changes drastically... Now I only choose the new versions, when there are two types, and every game is much more enjoyable because there is no the feeling of "what if"...
For me, because the quality of the new one is higher, and the characters are more consistent, I'm not at all worried about "what if", I have no nostalgia for the old version. I'd started it before it was remade though, so I probably wouldn't be keen to check it out if I'd played the remake first. I can understand how people miss the music of SG far more easily than I can understand how people think the pre rework WIAB was astounding. Around Ch 6 of the old one, there's a noticeable change in the the quality of the renders, like a shocking change; everything before was so far worse than what caused the remake of SG. In the first chapter of WIAB it had already become a more interesting story to me than the potential of the old version, and I like the idea I am still guessing about the characters and continuing plot in SG because the story of WIAB is still unfolding. When we see some of the characters start to appear in SG I think we'll have a lot more questions than answers.
 

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WIAB's young characters would be beautiful women even in SG...Just see Helen...
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't Helen in her 40's in WIAB? If she ever makes an appearance in SG, she'll be in her 60's, right?

All I know is: She's so freaking hot! Love it! :love:

By the way, there is a pic on the wiki of Katie Zane's car in SG...where can we see it in the story?

Edit: nvm, found it.

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It seems that in the next update we may not see the event with the party on Monday. So there are already a lot of events on Saturday and Sunday, and this event will take a lot of effort
 
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BobTheDuck

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Is summer gone off itch website cause I can't go there anymore?
I think Ocean mentioned that itch have decided to make the devs deal with all the relevant taxes, so it became a nightmare to manage payments. Could have misunderstood the situation though.
 

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Is summer gone off itch website cause I can't go there anymore?
I think Ocean mentioned that itch have decided to make the devs deal with all the relevant taxes, so it became a nightmare to manage payments. Could have misunderstood the situation though.
Itch.io went against a lot of porn game makers.

Not sure if this goes for this game, here is some information.





Rather sad news today. itch.io has effectively ended the sale of adult games on their platform.

The past few weeks, an email has been sent informing adult content creators that they can only sell their games on itch.io by enabling "direct payments", instead of bulk payments through itch.io, from now on. They did so without prior warning and with only a 30-day period for developers to cease payments or switching to direct payments. As all major payment processors available on itch.io (Paypal, Stripe) have clauses preventing the sale of adult content, this is not a viable option and will only result in getting my merchant account banned.
 

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i've been playing this now. i was sceptical at first, because of the hughe build up and no sex scenes of any kind at all. no petting etc. but man, what a ride. i really like how the characters are written. i had way more fun immersing in the story than i thought i would have
You wouldn't believe how many time we hear that here... Most people don't bother to read tags and expect to see sex, but stay for the story. I always say that a good story with great characters and renders/animations is better than mediocre porn story... This will never be a porn story but a AVN... with sex... in next few updates...
Many developers don't know how to make a great sex scene, but we're lucky that Ocean doesn't lack in this compartment... If somebody doesn't believe it I'll say only "WIAB"... ;)
 

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It'll be interesting to see how Ocean approaches the first scene with intimacy. With how much character building has happened, the scene will have to line up with the mindset of the MC and their partner (at this point in time at least). Can't just have them "alright, im good. lets get it!". Although, there's probably still awhile to go before that becomes a thing to worry about. Still more story to build character growth.
 

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It'll be interesting to see how Ocean approaches the first scene with intimacy. With how much character building has happened, the scene will have to line up with the mindset of the MC and their partner (at this point in time at least). Can't just have them "alright, im good. lets get it!". Although, there's probably still awhile to go before that becomes a thing to worry about. Still more story to build character growth.
It's love to detail, story first approach... But he can do it in other way too...
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You wouldn't believe how many time we hear that here... Most people don't bother to read tags and expect to see sex, but stay for the story. I always say that a good story with great characters and renders/animations is better than mediocre porn story... This will never be a porn story but a AVN... with sex... in next few updates...
Many developers don't know how to make a great sex scene, but we're lucky that Ocean doesn't lack in this compartment... If somebody doesn't believe it I'll say only "WIAB"... ;)
Saint words man. Immersion in this game is amaizing.
 
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