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I agree. When the reworks and the coding for the phone is finish, I hope updating SG and WIAB becomes faster. Also Ocean upgrading his technology is a plus as well.
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From the little things that I could see by quickly checking the fan wiki, does it mean that Ayua is the daughter of Miru?
I know I shouldn't have kept myself out of the loop for so long. Had a reason for it though. Help me out, brothers: I've read something about the game taking a lighter tone, because originally the story was going to be darker. Can anybody elaborate on this?
And did we have any clarification about the relationship between SG and WIAB?
Thanks in advance to any kind soul that would answer me
I know I shouldn't have kept myself out of the loop for so long. Had a reason for it though. Help me out, brothers: I've read something about the game taking a lighter tone, because originally the story was going to be darker. Can anybody elaborate on this?
And did we have any clarification about the relationship between SG and WIAB?
Thanks in advance to any kind soul that would answer me
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There is a very high probability that Ayua is Miru's daughter...From the little things that I could see by quickly checking the fan wiki, does it mean that Ayua is the daughter of Miru?
I know I shouldn't have kept myself out of the loop for so long. Had a reason for it though. Help me out, brothers: I've read something about the game taking a lighter tone, because originally the story was going to be darker. Can anybody elaborate on this?
And did we have any clarification about the relationship between SG and WIAB?
Thanks in advance to any kind soul that would answer me
The story is much clearer, because MC is no longer as aggressive as before, much more depressed...
Yes the two games are connected because SG takes place about 20-30 years after WIAB...Several of the WIAB characters are relatives...
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Like Acsuka said, it's high probability that Miru is Ayua's mother. But Miru has a sister too... It's all speculative now until we see. We have two stories who are interconnected, but we don't know the end of first story (WIAB)... But majority of people here think that Ayua is Miru's daughter.From the little things that I could see by quickly checking the fan wiki, does it mean that Ayua is the daughter of Miru?
I know I shouldn't have kept myself out of the loop for so long. Had a reason for it though. Help me out, brothers: I've read something about the game taking a lighter tone, because originally the story was going to be darker. Can anybody elaborate on this?
And did we have any clarification about the relationship between SG and WIAB?
Thanks in advance to any kind soul that would answer me
We don't know, but Ocean knows... And pieces of the stories are getting together slowly. And we try to "read" it faster...
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Yes, unfortunately we are not smarter because Ocean is making the two stories at the same time... It's a bit strange, but we can't do anything about it...Like Acsuka said, it's high probability that Miru is Ayua's mother. But Miru has a sister too... It's all speculative now until we see. We have two stories who are interconnected, but we don't know the end of first story (WIAB)... But majority of people here think that Ayua is Miru's daughter.
We don't know, but Ocean knows... And pieces of the stories are getting together slowly. And we try to "read" it faster...
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For example, the Katie that Ayua mentioned is the Katie from WIAB, but around her 40s, right?Like Acsuka said, it's high probability that Miru is Ayua's mother. But Miru has a sister too... It's all speculative now until we see. We have two stories who are interconnected, but we don't know the end of first story (WIAB)... But majority of people here think that Ayua is Miru's daughter.
We don't know, but Ocean knows... And pieces of the stories are getting together slowly. And we try to "read" it faster...
I thought I was really lost on things, but as I can see, Ocean still has to reveal a lot by developing his VNs, eh? I'm feeling a bit better now. Though I just saw this on the fan wiki:
"Bella wears a perfume with the same scent as Helen which consists of Amber/Iris/Neroli"
Where did that reference come from? It's these kind of things that are making me feel completely lost, you know?
I just replayed SG after all this time. I think it's time to replay WIAB as well then. Though, as I can feel, it won't help that much...right?
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Unfortunately no, I think as we wrote WIAB is not finished yet...Many secrets would be solved...And maybe that's exactly what Ocean wants, because then SG would be so easy...
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Well, Ocean likes to feed us slowly... There are many thing that could, for now, mean something else... Yes, Amber is probably in her teen years in WIAB... We dont know how big is the gap between. Around 20-25 years... That means girls from WIAB pushing 50 now...
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I have no problems with Ocean's two game@same universe... It helps you staying sane... All of those writers know what is writer's block... Having two stories helps you with than... When you know you're stuck, you concentrate on other game and without thinking, you can figure out what's the problem in first...
But Ocean has the first story complete in his head, not 100%, but he knows how all main characters from WIAB finish... Now is everything to make them to go there... In SG, those characters from WIAB are there, but we didn't had, probably, real contact with them... Teachers could play a story too... MC will go with Ayua in her dojo... We could there find bunch of old gang there... Or not...
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WIAB's young characters would be beautiful women even in SG...Just see Helen...I have no problems with Ocean's two game@same universe... It helps you staying sane... All of those writers know what is writer's block... Having two stories helps you with than... When you know you're stuck, you concentrate on other game and without thinking, you can figure out what's the problem in first...
But Ocean has the first story complete in his head, not 100%, but he knows how all main characters from WIAB finish... Now is everything to make them to go there... In SG, those characters from WIAB are there, but we didn't had, probably, real contact with them... Teachers could play a story too... MC will go with Ayua in her dojo... We could there find bunch of old gang there... Or not...
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They will be not ugly for sure... Ocean isn't able to make an ugly character... We know that... Yes, there will be bunch of beautiful MILFs there... It would be hilarious if our SG MC would fuck one of them (Miru?) and be killed by old WIAB MC... LoL
Its mostly hints so far. Ayua being a Zane and asian and Katie being her Aunt, Holgerson being around, Sasha being a Petrova, Sasha and Nami each wearing on of Leia's earrings, maybe Nika and/or Nami having a Zane origin too. There are a lot of possibiltys and i really enjoy the interconnection but so far there not a lot of hard facts.
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William Zane has been at WIAB for 24 years...if you add another 25 years, he would still handle Nika with one hand...
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Man in his prime against an emu boy... Yeah... Will would come with Miru or her sister and cheer for her while she dismantle emu boy...William Zane has been at WIAB for 24 years...if you add another 25 years, he would still handle Nika with one hand...
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I think the thing to remember is it is a fan wiki, so fans try to be accurate, but they also want to appear to be the keepers of secret insider knowledge. I personally enjoy the easter eggs for the fourth wall continuity - they're often nods to things that the people in the scene will have no idea about - there is no way that Nika will know what Helen's perfume smells like, so it is asking us to either a) find some obscure connection like a conspiracy between Bella and Helen, or just assume that it's a timeless brand and it hints they share a certain sense of elegance or style. I can't remember it being mentioned like that, and if scents were mentioned, maybe it's just Ocean's favourite? Could just be a popular expensive brand that every well off girl in Wollust wears (so everyone, but Nami, Mila, Maja and Victoria?
). I don't think every detail is part of the plot, but I do enjoy trying to work out what are red herrings, what are details for the sake of writing style and what is genuinely deepening the plot.I replayed the original WIAB and the current one to get a feel for what things have been kept so far and what's changed. Still can't guess. From the dev logs for WIAB though, there are some fairly significant character changes, so the plot is already moving into different territory, so the old version only gives indication of some of the broad themes (and places) that might remain consistent, rather than directly following the plot.
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Emu boy? Now I do see the semblance.
Right on the money. The hair. Yep.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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And that's exactly why I don't like to play the old versions in any game... It's confusing and sometimes annoying that when something changes drastically... Now I only choose the new versions, when there are two types, and every game is much more enjoyable because there is no the feeling of "what if"...