VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Orgitas]

The only thing that never ceases to amaze me. These guys always come back to this thread to inform everyone how Ocean sucks at making games, how slow he is, how they'll grow old and die before the grand finale. And yet they still haven't found anything that is better than Ocean's games but updated much more frequently? That's what I call a good LMAO.

The only real thing I like about Ocean's work is the artsy fartsy approach (Technical term, true story. Not a thing I just made up, *cough*). Heavily altered, and tweaked, in post processing/editing. So it looks great. It is the writing that is the game's real issue. That and the obvious plot holes and errors. There are many games that have leagues better writing but worse visuals. So, I guess it comes to how one measures, objectively, how one game ranks higher than another.

 

[yossa999]

The only real thing I like about Ocean's work is the artsy fartsy approach (Technical term, true story. Not a thing I just made up, *cough*). Heavily altered, and tweaked, in post processing/editing. So it looks great. It is the writing that is the game's real issue. That and the obvious plot holes and errors. There are many games that have leagues better writing but worse visuals. So, I guess it comes to how one measures, objectively, how one game ranks higher than another.

Damn reaction limit. The writing quality is the only thing worth waging a hundred years' war with you
I don't mean quality as a measure of how good his English is or how many spelling errors go undetected. I still complete suck at this, en_US is not my first language. But when it comes to the ease of perception of the text and the author’s ability to convey the thoughts, emotions and feelings of his characters, the ability to create intrigue and hold the reader’s attention without letting them get bored - Ocean, in my opinion, is one of the best in this area. I completely believe his characters (well most of them), watching the way they speak, act and behave, some of them are very recognizable types, they are quite reminiscent of real people with whom I am familiar. And this is entirely the merit of the author’s writing skills.
The Unbroken is an absolutely amazing game, and if you've seen it, I don't think you'll dare criticize its writing, it's very high quality, full of real English humor, isn't it? If you ask me which redhead is better, Nami or Elspeth, I don't know what to answer. But sometimes I just stop following the MC and the dialogues with other characters there, I just get bored and it breaks the immersion. This never happens to me with SG, it's always fun and easy to watch and read. (except for the tabletop game, this shit I can't stand, no matter what the reasons were behind adding it to the story)

 

[BobTheDuck]

The only thing that never ceases to amaze me. These guys always come back to this thread to inform everyone how Ocean sucks at making games, how slow he is, how they'll grow old and die before the grand finale. And yet they still haven't found anything that is better than Ocean's games but updated much more frequently? That's what I call a good LMAO.

I've got a stack of books about 40 deep I haven't gotten around to, at least 50 games I've bought on steam I haven't played (specials are always tempting) and adult life currently means a social life takes back seat to anything responsible. I will die before I get around to all the of all the things I can do to escape responsibility. There's not enough time to taske every vintage the world has to offer, and I'm spoilt for choice...

What amazes me is that people don't have other things they're happy to do while they wait. Personally, SG will bypass the queue of things I need to do, and I'll deprive myself of sleep when it happens. Until then, I'll just pick up one of the hundreds of the other ways I can procrastinate on my own deadlines.

Damn reaction limit. The writing quality is the only thing worth waging a hundred years' war with you
I don't mean quality as a measure of how good his English is or how many spelling errors go undetected. I still complete suck at this, en_US is not my first language. But when it comes to the ease of perception of the text and the author’s ability to convey the thoughts, emotions and feelings of his characters, the ability to create intrigue and hold the reader’s attention without letting them get bored - Ocean, in my opinion, is one of the best in this area. I completely believe his characters (well most of them), watching the way they speak, act and behave, some of them are very recognizable types, they are quite reminiscent of real people with whom I am familiar. And this is entirely the merit of the author’s writing skills.
The Unbroken is an absolutely amazing game, and if you've seen it, I don't think you'll dare criticize its writing, it's very high quality, full of real English humor, isn't it? If you ask me which redhead is better, Nami or Elspeth, I don't know what to answer. But sometimes I just stop following the MC and the dialogues with other characters there, I just get bored and it breaks the immersion. This never happens to me with SG, it's always fun and easy to watch and read. (except for the tabletop game, this shit I can't stand, no matter what the reasons were behind adding it to the story)

SG and The Unbroken both make me feel bad whenever I follow porn logic. Seeing how choices affect the characters hits me in both games, it feels terrible to make choices without thinking them through and in these games, the choices imply someone will be upset no matter what you choose. And I would love an Elspeth cameo crossover. Maybe training in the background with Bella in a headlock?

...second thoughts, maybe not

 

[Orgitas]

Damn reaction limit. The writing quality is the only thing worth waging a hundred years' war with you
I don't mean quality as a measure of how good his English is or how many spelling errors go undetected. I still complete suck at this, en_US is not my first language. But when it comes to the ease of perception of the text and the author’s ability to convey the thoughts, emotions and feelings of his characters, the ability to create intrigue and hold the reader’s attention without letting them get bored - Ocean, in my opinion, is one of the best in this area. I completely believe his characters (well most of them), watching the way they speak, act and behave, some of them are very recognizable types, they are quite reminiscent of real people with whom I am familiar. And this is entirely the merit of the author’s writing skills.
The Unbroken is an absolutely amazing game, and if you've seen it, I don't think you'll dare criticize its writing, it's very high quality, full of real English humor, isn't it? If you ask me which redhead is better, Nami or Elspeth, I don't know what to answer. But sometimes I just stop following the MC and the dialogues with other characters there, I just get bored and it breaks the immersion. This never happens to me with SG, it's always fun and easy to watch and read. (except for the tabletop game, this shit I can't stand, no matter what the reasons were behind adding it to the story)

I mean, there are good parts. But I am one of those who just can't get over things. Don't get me wrong - I still like the game. Deffo in my top 15, just not my top ten. Maybe I will think about the writing differently if/when the reworks ever finish. But currently, to me, it seems quite inconsistent personality wise for some of the characters and the pacing. And yes, the whole table top sci fy bit is just... Bad. If it were its own thing it would be a great story, no doubt. But it just makes things in SG disjointed.

 

[yossa999]

I've got a stack of books about 40 deep I haven't gotten around to, at least 50 games I've bought on steam I haven't played (specials are always tempting) and adult life currently means a social life takes back seat to anything responsible. I will die before I get around to all the of all the things I can do to escape responsibility. There's not enough time to taske every vintage the world has to offer, and I'm spoilt for choice...

What amazes me is that people don't have other things they're happy to do while they wait. Personally, SG will bypass the queue of things I need to do, and I'll deprive myself of sleep when it happens. Until then, I'll just pick up one of the hundreds of the other ways I can procrastinate on my own deadlines.

Damn reaction limit
Absolutely agree, I'm the same. A couple of months ago I did the grand purge of my hard drive for AVN, deleting everything that was older than six months that I didn't even bother to unzip and take a look. Now there is almost no free space left again. I think I need to create a spreadsheet in Excel where I record the games I've ever watched, because often I download something only to find out that I saw this pile of crap about a year ago and deleted it after a few minutes of play Life is not enough to play all the games and read all the books you wanted to play or read, even if you do it 24/7. And I'm not even talking about such a serious real life threat like Baldur's Gate 3 and whatnot
But honestly, this forum is kind of a game itself, and we all play it less or more. Asking "Is this game abandoned?" in the thread of the game, which is obviously in development, is one way to play it, I guess. I can't imagine anyone believing that the people asking this are actually interested in the answer. This is their way of expressing disappointment that they haven't gotten what they wanted for too long.

SG and The Unbroken both make me feel bad whenever I follow porn logic. Seeing how choices affect the characters hits me in both games, it feels terrible to make choices without thinking them through and in these games, the choices imply someone will be upset no matter what you choose. And I would love an Elspeth cameo crossover. Maybe training in the background with Bella in a headlock?

...second thoughts, maybe not

Damn reaction limit
Yep, the infamous "came for the porn, stayed for the story", although I found both games when I was already aware that there are not only sleeping mommy molester simulators exist, and was purposefully looking for story-based games. And yeah, if you try to put the story aside and just play it like a porn game, you'll be disappointed and end up writing "No sex after years and the MC is impotent, ha-ha, lmao." kind of comments Although I'm not entirely sure about SG, I think Ocean is a special kind of pervert and at some point he'll surprise us all with something in the style of Estate: Dominate. For some unknown reason, he put Beanpole in the reworked chapter 2. For what?

I mean, there are good parts. But I am one of those who just can't get over things. Don't get me wrong - I still like the game. Deffo in my top 15, just not my top ten. Maybe I will think about the writing differently if/when the reworks ever finish. But currently, to me, it seems quite inconsistent personality wise for some of the characters and the pacing. And yes, the whole table top sci fy bit is just... Bad. If it were its own thing it would be a great story, no doubt. But it just makes things in SG disjointed.

Damn reaction limit
I guess there's nothing can be done about this then, maybe it's not exactly your cup of tea. However, I would wait until Ch.5 comes out before drawing the final conclusion. If I'm not mistaken, Ocean said somewhere that if you don't like chapter five, you probably won't like what comes after it.

 

[Orgitas]

ahahaha and these noobs say that they can render? 100 samples are not enough for them, although you can safely do 50 samples and less if you blur the image like Ocean. Pretend to be an expert, but don’t know such simple things. Continue to embarrass yourself, it makes me very happy

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

ahahaha and these noobs say that they can render? 100 samples are not enough for them, although you can safely do 50 samples and less if you blur the image like Ocean. Pretend to be an expert, but don’t know such simple things. Continue to embarrass yourself, it makes me very happy

 

[BobTheDuck]

The render saviour who can render so much faster that they still haven't posted a single render that wasn't copied from the internet must be believed! After pure black, maybe they'll post blind albino polar bears in a liquid soap snowstorm. Or 4k flat white. Probably can do it with 1 sample then

 

[Darkdevil66]

Anything you can do,
I can do better
I can do anything better than you.
Any renders you made, I can make it faster.
I’m not gonna show you anything.
Just send me 100 dollars.
I can produce 100 high quality renders faster than you !

No, you can't. (High)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I CAN! (Highest)

Stop putting me on trial
I’m looking for a Blender Tutorial
I can create a game faster than you !
( Dude we were talking about DAZ )
I watched videos on Youtube, stop calling me a liar
I can render faster than all of you !

You’re maybe a Daz Artist or even a game developer
But I watch Youtube tutorials so it doesn’t matter
I can create a game faster than you !

 

[Orgitas]

The render saviour who can render so much faster that they still haven't posted a single render that wasn't copied from the internet must be believed! After pure black, maybe they'll post blind albino polar bears in a liquid soap snowstorm. Or 4k flat white. Probably can do it with 1 sample then

Some people, eh?

100 samples? Sheesh not great, at all, for a final product. That is, like, day 1 "how to render" aha.

 

[Orgitas]

Anything you can do,
I can do better
I can do anything better than you.
Any renders you made, I can make it faster.
I’m not gonna show you anything.
Just send me 100 dollars.
I can produce 100 high quality renders faster than you !

No, you can't. (High)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I CAN! (Highest)

Stop putting me on trial
I’m looking for a Blender Tutorial
I can create a game faster than you !
( Dude we were talking about DAZ )
I watched videos on Youtube, stop calling me a liar
I can render faster than all of you !

You’re maybe a Daz Artist or even a game developer
But I watch Youtube tutorials so it doesn’t matter
I can create a game faster than you !

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Why go to extremes? Any professional 3D designer knows that Max samples = 1 is enough to create high-quality art.

 

[soprano31]

Really sad and depressing how everyone keeps reacting to the poor little troll,
Fortuna ღ learned her lesson with him,
but i thought you were smarter too,Darkdevil66 !!

 

[m111m123]

Wow what is this? Oh my God, those are the noises! I wonder why the ass-lickers aren’t outraged about this? Well, this is Ocean, he can do anything.

 

[Orgitas]

Wow what is this? Oh my God, those are the noises! I wonder why the ass-lickers aren’t outraged about this? Well, this is Ocean, he can do anything.
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Just want to say if he rendered that with 100 samples the noise and splotches would be much more noticeable. In fact it would, quite likely, ruin the image. Also, a side note, depth of field requires you to use more samples when rendering the scene. For a final product, which uses denoising, I would say 800-1000 is a good number to start at, raise or lower for scene complexity. Without denoising you will need to set the samples much much higher. You would only, ever, use 100 samples to test an image to get a rough idea as to what it will look like. A lil lesson for you.

 

[Razrback16]

The ignore button was invented for this type of thing...

 

[DrSoong]

Just want to say if he rendered that with 100 samples the noise and splotches would be much more noticeable. In fact it would, quite likely, ruin the image. Also, a side note, depth of field requires you to use more samples when rendering the scene. For a final product, which uses denoising, I would say 800-1000 is a good number to start at, raise or lower for scene complexity. Without denoising you will need to set the samples much much higher. You would only, ever, use 100 samples to test an image to get a rough idea as to what it will look like. A lil lesson for you.

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[Orgitas]

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[yossa999]

The ignore button was invented for this type of thing...

It won’t work, he is constantly quoted, so even without seeing his posts, you have to watch this dude is dancing his macabre in the thread. And frankly, a skillfully selected and not banned troll amuses the audience in the comments and doesn’t let the thread get bored until the update comes out.

 

[Fortuna ღ]

This has already been discussed once by Ocean's former patrons. They found out that on Discord, Patreon and on this site there is a group of people (ass-lickers) who, under different nicknames, attack people who ask awkward questions about Ocean and his game. I don’t know about other sites, but this one definitely has ass-licking.

It's a mystery how you're not banned yet... ღ