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Thank you, that's exactly what I was talking about. Ocean had to pull double duty. He cannot cope with this load and has begun to burn out. He needs to reduce the workload and only work on one game. If he doesn’t do this, I’m afraid he’ll burn out completely and then 2 games will be abandoned. I really don't want this.
Ocean has been very candid with his supporters about how he is trying to manage burnout.
It is far more than working on both SG and WIAB concurrently.
It also included moving back to the greater Berlin area (if I understood that dev log correctly) - closer to a larger group of friends and better opportunities for some of the classes he wanted to take.
He also commented about taking more frequent vacations away from both VNs (covered by another poster earlier today).
I'd have to go back over the last year and a half of the various dev logs to better capture all that he was doing but - the point is: He recognizes the danger of burnout and is actively working to counteract the effects of burnout.
I trust Ocean to best recognize what he needs to do to combat burnout better than I could recommend for him, just like I believe you can best recognize what you need to do to combat your own burnout better than I could recommend for you.
If you are interested in learning more about his comments on this subject, search this thread for the dev logs - posted every other week by supporters.
Cheers!!
is still GONE or already has come after 3 years?
last time i played this was awfull ? already sex with the sis and other lis? nahhh
last time i played this was awfull ? already sex with the sis and other lis? nahhh
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Say what?
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Huh? There isn't even any sex in this game
Myabe you mean this game: Where It All Began [Ch. 2 Full] [Oceanlab] and the "old" version of it.
if u played this 3 years ago, then no, cause it has been nearly 3 years of nothing but "remake"
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Yeah, in fact, he only released chapter 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5 besides the reworked chapter 1 and half of 2. But who counts.if u played this 3 years ago, then no, cause it has been nearly 3 years of nothing but "remake"
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With all this saying about taking breaks and all that… the game wont even be finished when im 30 thats crazy he modt likely is going to drop this project.
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It could happen. So what? There are much worse things, like no solo path for Josy.
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if we're talking about ocean taking a break now and then I rather him take a break then burning out completely
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and as for youIt could happen. So what? There are much worse things, like no solo path for Josy.
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I'd rather have quality than quantity.
I'm a greedy fucker indeed
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Ok, if he needs a break to avoid burnout ok, he gotta do it, but at least try to give us the fucking update at once and try to avoid making this AVN so eternal. 30 chapters is WAY too many time of developement and he's doing it while working in another game? Dude, be real. I'll be around 40 years old once this thing is done, come on!
I like that the game has the intended length, I just hope he can upgrade his hardware to a point where the updates will come a lot quicker. On the bright side I don't think he's incorporating much in the way of free-roam / mini-games so that at least should not cause an additional hindrance.
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Hardware isn't the primary bottleneck except for a small number of scenes with large numbers of assets that need to load. Posing models takes a lot of effort and is a fixed time input regardless of hardware. Until there are AI tools to help reduce the time spent getting poses and expressions just right, there will always be a minimum development time for the discerning dev that cannot be accelerated without settling for stock poses. Ocean is too much of an artist to forego nuance, so that won't ever happen.
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Okay, you're very convincing. I'm calling dibs on the first cut!
[Looks around, fearing that sorco2003 is wandering anywhere nearby, and lowers his voice to a whisper]
First we get rid of one of the games. I think I don't have to voice the game's name, everybody here agree what will it be, right?
Okay, now that he can concentrate on "Summer's Gone" alone, I suggest he throwing the fuck out the further tabletop shit. The girls were hot in those tight futuristic outfits, I won't deny it, and Nami grew up some tiddy, but that's all. No more. No game within a game, save it for another VN. In the future, a few pictures of them, sitting at a table and playing the cards would be enough. Although playing the Devil card against Nadia must be shown properly. With groping and all the things Nancy talked about. I insist on this!
Good job so far. We have reduced the overall development time by several years. But it's still too long. Now we have no choice but to start throwing away some of the LIs. And I'm giving you space here because I don't want to get my balls twisted by angry fans of the girl you're planning to kick out of the game.
There has been some commentary about burnout and Ocean's choice to make SG and WIAB concurrently, with some of us posting why we understand this/accept this while others don't fall into this category.
I understand that there are some here on this thread that want him to focus on SG and either drop WIAB or put it far on the back burner.
I don't see Ocean making this change - this is his creation and vision - so we either accept it, rail against the 'unfairness' of it, or move on and focus on enjoying some of the Thousands of other creations here on F95.
As to your comment: try to give us the fucking update at once
Should he just drop a buggy Alpha now?
Would you enjoy getting bounced out of SG because of bugs, missing images etc.?
Are you saying that you would not be back on this thread complaining about the buggy release and why didn't Ocean take the time to get it right?
What about everyone else who enjoys SG?
SG is the flagship for his brand and represents his creativity and capability as an artist and as a businessman.
He gives us dev logs every two weeks, letting us know what he is working on and the status of the next update for both SG and WIAB.
THE slowdown for SG right now is the phone that Ocean wants to add to SG as part of CH 5.
The freelancer he hired to do the phone bailed on him, so he took over the phone coding and he does rely on others to help with other aspects of the phone (mentioned in previous posts here).
I think the phone is a nice added feature for SG, and it allows for future features and better immersion, all 'in game.'
So:
High quality renders, animations, great music, and new features - these are all part of what Ocean delivers in Summers Gone.
This is also what he plans on delivering on Steam when SG Season 1 goes live.
Is he Very ambitious with his plans for SG? Yes
Is it worth it for his $ supporters? Yes (speaking for myself and, anecdotally, assessing a Yes given the support levels that SG enjoys.)
So, you have a decision to make:
Accept Ocean's development choices for SG/WIAB.
Rail against Ocean's development choices for SG/WIAB but stay for the updates.
Or
Leave to seek other less ambitious creators, perhaps concentrating on those with short development cycles or the completed tag.
Good Luck with your choice!
Cheers!!