- Jul 15, 2017
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Like most of the people on this planet does.
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Man, The hype is killing me, waiting for the update.
- May 22, 2017
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This actually makes me quite happy about my own job. Doesn't pay much, but hardly ever gets boring. And I can be creative often enough.
Also makes me able to imagine why and how Ocean works on two games simultaneously or switching between them, understand how much easier it actually makes it to do more as a result.
Hope, it will be the last update which took the whole year.
- Aug 5, 2016
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Please finish just one project before you start talking to me about creativity and art, Leonardo
Ocean himself has explained several times that working on the second game was not planned. He started working on Summer's Gone because whoever was doing it left the project. After that came the excuse about art and creativity because the natives were getting restless.
- Dec 5, 2020
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I mean I have working hours. I have a pool of tasks that need to be completed. Sometimes I stumble on a task and run out of ideas. I'm not making any progress on this task. Then I take a break, go for a little walk or something, give myself a little rest, and then try again. If there is still no progress, I put the current task aside and switch to another.
I'm usually able to unconsciously generate new ideas for postponed task while working on another, and when I return to a task I've put aside, I usually know what to do next. So, I work on two tasks alternately in one week. Of course, I’m not doubling my working time this week, I’m just changing the order of work, instead of sequential: task A completed -> task B completed, I do it alternately: part of task A -> part of Task B -> task A completed -> task B completed. The total time spent is the same for both cases.
This is how I understand his idea of working on two projects to avoid burnout. Not sure if this would work for me in the long run. But the last thing I want is to judge someone’s approach to their work. I worked with a dude who could write code while listening to black metal so loud I could hear it through his headphones. God forbid I experience this again; while working I can only listen to relaxing music or a calm trance.
Regarding the money... Of course, dedication to the patrons of both games is another reason to continue both of them, it would be stupid to deny that. But if it's just about the money and people are grumbling but still willing to pay, why not make 3 games instead of 2 because that's even more money? Why not make short games that, even after completion, will generate a smaller, but constant income? Why not cancel both games and start making the fuckin' wallpapers? Judging by the other games' threads, wallpapers making still pays well.
And then, I don’t encourage anyone to anything. I have my own eyes to see and my own brains to draw conclusions. Among the large number of developers and their work that I've seen, Ocean looks much more worthy than many, even making two games at the same time. It's only my subjective opinion, of course. But you guys draw your own conclusions.
PS: In recent days, people have been more enthusiastic than usual about counting Ocean's incomes. Lately I was reading old posts from DPC, and he spoke quite openly about money things in those days, I can recommend reading it.
- May 14, 2019
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Its coming! Hopefully next week!
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Good grief, these everything-a-dev-does-is-right-and-everything-a-dev-tells-is-true guys are really embarassing.
You know, these guys who develop these Patreon funded erotic games are human beings like you and me: they might make mistakes sometimes, I even daresay.
You know, these guys who develop these Patreon funded erotic games are human beings like you and me: they might make mistakes sometimes, I even daresay.
- Dec 19, 2019
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Please finish just one project before you start talking to me about creativity and art, Leonardo
Ocean himself has explained several times that working on the second game was not planned. He started working on Summer's Gone because whoever was doing it left the project. After that came the excuse about art and creativity because the natives were getting restless.
We need to accept the fact that they (Developers) have grabbed us by the Balls. Now we are helpless.
- Apr 10, 2021
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Sigh, so much misinformation in one post, and resorting to insults.
Unreal is capable of much higher output than Daz. It can render simple images or use different methods, multipass rendering, Path Tracing amongst them. Path tracing has been long used in the movie industry for ultra realistic images.
The only advantage that Daz has is in its easy access to character models and morphing, skilled users however can use those assets within Unreal, in fact the Daz store now specifically states that the models are compatible with Unreal, Blender, Unity and others.
How do you think all the key art of such high quality are produced for games?
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I could post hundreds of more examples of character renders and that's not to mention its ability to render cinematic animations far superior to Daz in a fraction of the time, then we have the environments which once again are far superior.
Daz is a program aimed at amateurs to give a gentle introduction into 3D rendering.
Skilled users will stick with Blender, Unreal, Maya, Cinema4d
If you are going to refute points in a post, make sure you know what you are talking about.
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- Dec 19, 2019
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Now that you made your point how much more clever engines can be used to produce an AVN, so piss off and render your own one instead of whining about the superiority of your theoretical skills.
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Show one place I said anything about my skills, I said that Ocean was being unrealistic in needing professional level GPU's and what Daz can achieve.
- Dec 19, 2019
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First of all you will have to learn to read: "theoretical skills"!
Your whole argument with Penfold was based on you cramming theory down his throat.
I myself find Unreal renders too glary and flat compared to the cinematic depth that Ocean so far produced.
I like to compare what he's been able to do so far to making a movie in still photography.
Camera angels, lighting, character positioning and interaction is very cinematic, though still.
His Beta and Full are different, correct? meaning he's adding more content to the beta version and then calling it Full
Normally, you'd call it beta to test it, so the game generally would have bugs and other technical issues and not add more scenes and call it full, or am I wrong?
Normally, you'd call it beta to test it, so the game generally would have bugs and other technical issues and not add more scenes and call it full, or am I wrong?
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You can twist it whichever way you want, he responded to a post with insults and incorrect facts. I responded, simple as that
- Dec 5, 2020
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The Full version will contain a completely reworked second chapter in compare to Beta. And bugfixes for bugs found in Beta, of course. He was reworking the first two chapters, now about a half of the second chapter remains unreworked.
- Aug 24, 2019
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