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Why do you guys get so aggressive when someone says something negative about this game? I think other people have a reason to call you guys Dickriders and Cockgobblers. 
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I guess you're not followed the game news and dev logs, but Ocean has been talking about music license issues for a long time, and they are exactly related to adult content. That's why he's so concerned about securing the music licenses in his game for the songs he's carefully selected over the years and even built several cinematics around the songs. It's not the only Ocean, many devs have faced the same problems and had to remove some key music compositions from their games, and the adult nature of their games became a direct reason for copyright holders to revoke their music tracks. And the worst part is that they did this with games that had been in production for a long time.
And you're right, the jacuzzi scene is something that could bring the "adult" label or whatever it's called on Steam for the game. Many people won't ever see a game tagged like this on Steam, due to platform restrictions. It's a fair trade-off to rework one scene to appeal to a wider audience.
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My friend... we see the dick and everything...Sexual content as in a girl touching MC's peepee. In the jacuzzi scene we only see Nami wiggling her ass on MC's lap, of course we know what's happening down there but don't exaggerate it. The thing is he paid for music licenses and now 40% of these were in risk if he didn't tweak that scene (we'll have to see the final version before judging, right?). And it's not the first time nor the last time where the music industry has influenced some of the VN around here. The most prominent example would be BaDIK with its original theme song, but Ocean himself has been a victim of this (RIP Every Night
And I'm not strawmanning you. Just saying that what you're complaining about are things that everyone already knew beforehand, like S1 wasn't gonna have H content.
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You said i was disgusted by things here, where did you get that word? Where did i say i was disgusted by anything here? Can you tell me where it was first stated that Season 1 was not gonna have any sexual content? Cause it certainly wasnt when the game started or even just a year or more back, maybe i missed it but also Ocean missed it as well because he already put H content in the game.
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And we have returned to Where It All Began
This is clearly not your game because you don't like the slow pace and long relationship building. To me it sounds like "I don't like this comedy because it's not a horror movie."
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I love you too, budWhy do you guys get so aggressive when someone says something negative about this game? I think other people have a reason to call you guys Dickriders and Cockgobblers.
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I understand that but i dont understand how removing the music means you have to remove the whole scene? Does that apply to every other scene as well? Cause most of the game has music lol, so most of the scenes will get removed? Actually i could understand a scene getting compromised by music being removed if its a scene thats made specifically to compliment the music like the various scene of Bella with her hair blowing in the wind or sharing a passionate kiss, etc... but Nami rubbing her ass on MC's dick didnt really strike me as that kind of scene, you could have played a trumpet during that it wouldn't matter.
Sure i dunno if its worth sacrificing your own story for it, cause i dunno how big the trade off would be in the end. In fact it might even backfire cause people might think its one of those Western porn VN's like BaDIK and download it, miss the no sex tags play it realize there is no sex and leave a bad review lol. RIP Season 2 on Steam then, not that he ultimately needs it, he released the game on multiple platforms already and is earning more than a brain surgeon in Switzerland does on it.
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It's widely known that music industry doesn't like to give rights for their music. It's still taboo. In real live you can ask independent bands, but they usually run away when you use word "adult". Very few people will speak with you because they don't want their names are associated with adult content. Ocean try to find who are wiling to work with him and make good songs. Usually those are custom songs for the game.
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I dunno why people keep saying this, it's literally one of my favorite games on here. Or do people think just because you love something you cant or aren't allowed to criticize or question some decisions regarding it?And we have returned to Where It All Began
This is clearly not your game because you don't like the slow pace and long relationship building. To me it sounds like "I don't like this comedy because it's not a horror movie."
My favorite movies, shows, games are also things i have a lot of criticism over, simply because i tend to also hold them to a higher standard than stuff i find to be mid or terrible.
I did 5 different playthroughs of BG3, i spent this much time in a game that's only been out for 2 and 1/2 months
and yet i have a ton of stuff to both praise and criticize the game for, even though it also became one of my favorite games ever, literally on my top 5 list of all time.
I dont understand some people some time, maybe we just have completely different standards and ways we approach things...
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Is that the earliest 5 months ago? That explains a lot, also it being on discord... of course.
Well ok I stand corrected on the dick situation. But no, the music will still be there if that scene is modified. The problem is that if Ocean left it as it is, then goodbye to the 40% of the music licenses that he has already paid and implemented to the game. You have to understand this.
With "disgusted" I meant "upset", sorry for my non-native english. And I can't put you the original source, but since it was established that SG would be splitted into seasons, it first one wasn't gonna have H content (the hardcore stuff, that scene pushed that meaning to the limit but nothing happened there, now it's gonna be tweaked to some mild point). And that probably was 1-1.5 years ago.
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Nami rubbing ass -> game tagged porn -> copyright holders go anal -> urgent update on Steam removes the music from the released game.
I can't explain this better.
We'll see. At the very least, leave it up to the developer to choose how they want to market and target their game.
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I dont think you understand my question... i get why the music is being removed i dont get why the sex scene is being removed you can remove the music without touching the sex scene.Nami rubbing ass -> game tagged porn -> copyright holders go anal -> urgent update on Steam removes the music from the released game.
I can't explain this better.
Its not like i have any influence on that anyway.
- Sep 23, 2021
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Dude, stop. You can't change the people on the internet. You are fighting a losing battle.
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Lets just forget about the music thing cause i feel like we are talking in circles.
Anyway if it was established 1.5 years ago that season 1 would be non-sexual i guess i missed that part cause i genuinely cant remember and i have been following this game at least as far as the stuff Ocean releases on patreon, i dont follow everything he posts on discord especially if he doesn't tag people, but sure it's all non-sexual for now.
Not sure why he hyped up the next update so much then, especially with promising some really rewarding scenes with Nia, but oh well... maybe the MC and her play a very intense game of hide and seek.
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Dude, stop. You can't change the people on the internet. You are fighting a losing battle.
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And you're poking the both sides with the stick and giggling. I don't see anything in this guy's words that is worth fighting for. A typical argument about a game between people with different opinions. While no one is calling others cockgoblers and dicksuckers and the discussion is on topic, I have no problem with it and I hope the other side doesn't either.Dude, stop. You can't change the people on the internet. You are fighting a losing battle.
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The main problem is not that different people want different things, but the problem is different people want to force their opinion to the developers. Not just only in Ocean's case, but every other developer. Sometimes it really annoying to read the endless posts with complaining, whining, crying, b*tching, etc., but mostly is very funny and entertaining.
What I'm talking about?
"I (don't) want this, I (don't) want that, I (don't) want incest, NTR, harem, dev should do this, or that, etc."
When I try an AVN, the first things I look at is the genre and developer notes. If that's fine for me, I'll download it and give it a try. In most cases, 20-30 minutes is enough to decide whether I are interested or not. If I'm not interested, then I drop the AVN, but I'm not going to write a complaining, whining, crying, b*tching post, and I don't give unasked advice to the developer about what I think he should do differently with his own game.