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Actually this isn't exactly correct, he received a warning.

From the 28 Jun Dev Log:

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Just to be the smartass: :p

I warned him 23.04.023, and drifty send his message on the 22.04.2023 - give and take the diffrence 'cause the timezones. The devlog was in June. :)

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I think you two are talking about two different times Mortarion shows the collapse in 2022 (when Drifty - Steam) and Yossa talks about newer things.
Yes, it is. And yes, he want. It was mentioned by him in one ov the devlogs, or a post here/on discord. Steam is not the only reason, the exorbitant energy costs are a part of it. Or borderline stupid and incomepent gouverment does his best to kill off any economy in our county for the sake of the so called"climate change"

You have to keep in mind, that SG and WIAB are no hour based side projects for Ocean. Unlike many other devs here around Ocean works fulltime on the game. No other income than the money that comes through Patreon, Subscribe Star or Steam.
Not long ago Ocean was talking about learning Catalan and looking at the possibility of Barcelona. I don't know if anything has changed since that time, but it was a very concrete possibility.
 

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Ocean is going to remove the scene in the fitting room where MC gets naked with Bella.
Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...
 

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Seems like there have been a lot of hoops to jump through for the Steam release. At this point, it's starting to feel like season 2 is where the game will really start (not that I haven't been enjoying season 1). No more reworks, hopefully no more music issues, more screen time for characters who haven't had as much yet, and some actual sex scenes.
 
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Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...
My bad, corrected. I misread what you said
 

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Bro... Please make sure you're not spreading misinformation.

I said "But MC's leg will be adjusted in a way that it hides the pp. Like here from Ch4. (Jacuzzi image you attached.)"
So one single render in the Bella changing room gets altered...

I never said anything about removing an entire scene...
Will these images be edited?
 
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Very weird, Steam censors male genitalia but allows the girls breast to be visible :unsure:. I have no complaints about this :LUL:.
 

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Very weird, Steam censors male genitalia but allows the girls breast to be visible :unsure:. I have no complaints about this :LUL:.
It's not Steam, it's the music licence with small print, why they don't want their songs related to a penis but not a naked female is the question they'd have to answer.
 

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It's not Steam, it's the music licence with small print, why they don't want their songs related to a penis but not a naked female is the question they'd have to answer.
I think the question is that it will be released on Steam without the tag that makes it pornographic (or full adult).
So Steam would also allow female nudity but not penises for their tag.
 

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I think the question is that it will be released on Steam without the tag that makes it pornographic (or full adult).
So Steam would also allow female nudity but not penises for their tag.
Ocean stated the reason he had to change the scenes was the music, he would lose 40% of the music for the game if he didn't change the scenes, he didn't say it was anything to do with Steam.
 

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Ocean stated the reason he had to change the scenes was the music, he would lose 40% of the music for the game if he didn't change the scenes, he didn't say it was anything to do with Steam.
I think you are misunderstanding, I never said that the reason is Steam, if it will be released on Steam without being labeled as adult (or pornographic) in order to be sold in Germany (and other countries) and skip other age restrictions (wider audience). So Steam censorship has the same parameters as music licensing, yes nude women, no penises.
 

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Very weird, Steam censors male genitalia but allows the girls breast to be visible :unsure:. I have no complaints about this :LUL:.
Because breasts are not genitals, there is no discrimination. Nudity is allowed in non-adult, but without showing genitals, no matter male or female. The same principle applies in cinema.
 

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I think you are misunderstanding, I never said that the reason is Steam, if it will be released on Steam without being labeled as adult (or pornographic) in order to be sold in Germany (and other countries) and skip other age restrictions (wider audience). So Steam censorship has the same parameters as music licensing, yes nude women, no penises.
But as far as I know Steam had already agreed to the release of the game as it stood (including images of MC's penis), that's why they had allowed wishlisting on Steam and allowed Ocean to release a trailer on the platform, and Ocean had said the game would be available in Germany (meaning it wasn't getting the pornographic rating). The only reason for this late editing is the threat of losing 40% of the music.
 

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But as far as I know Steam had already agreed to the release of the game as it stood (including images of MC's penis), that's why they had allowed wishlisting on Steam and allowed Ocean to release a trailer on the platform, and Ocean had said the game would be available in Germany (meaning it wasn't getting the pornographic rating). The only reason for this late editing is the threat of losing 40% of the music.
...as it stood - in what form is this? Season 1 (including Ch5) has not been released yet, how could it be provided by Steam?
Or do you think that he provided the game in Steam chunks to get access upfront? It doesn't work that way, bro
 

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But as far as I know Steam had already agreed to the release of the game as it stood (including images of MC's penis), that's why they had allowed wishlisting on Steam and allowed Ocean to release a trailer on the platform, and Ocean had said the game would be available in Germany (meaning it wasn't getting the pornographic rating). The only reason for this late editing is the threat of losing 40% of the music.
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It's just my speculation, but according to the steps (and also from other known cases) you can have the store and wishlist activated without having the game approved, which would be the last phase. So the build you submit for the release may still have objections despite having the store approved and working. Also I remember reading that Ocena had already talked before about some modifications for the Steam release.
And this he said today:
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To be honest, I don’t understand what’s going on with Ocean and his licenses. All this seems like some kind of nonsense. There should be no porn scenes in the game so that Ocean can earn more money. Okay, there was one porn scene in the game in the MC's house, but it was cut out a long time ago. Why delete (edit) footage from a jacuzzi or locker room in a store? These images do not contain any porn scenes. Pornography is considered when one shows one's genitals during sex. In some porn films, genitals are not specifically shown, although the actors have sex, this allows you to bypass the porn rating and makes the film erotic. In Ocean's game there are several shots of girls and men standing naked, but this is not considered porn. What's the point of deleting these frames? Then we need to delete the scenes with Nami, she loves to show her breasts. And the scenes in the shower after the gym will also have to be cut because there are naked girls. It turns out that all these frames must also be deleted or everything should be left as is. If you leave some of the frames and delete some, it looks very stupid.
 

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To be honest, I don’t understand what’s going on with Ocean and his licenses. All this seems like some kind of nonsense. There should be no porn scenes in the game so that Ocean can earn more money. Okay, there was one porn scene in the game in the MC's house, but it was cut out a long time ago. Why delete (edit) footage from a jacuzzi or locker room in a store? These images do not contain any porn scenes. Pornography is considered when one shows one's genitals during sex. In some porn films, genitals are not specifically shown, although the actors have sex, this allows you to bypass the porn rating and makes the film erotic. In Ocean's game there are several shots of girls and men standing naked, but this is not considered porn. What's the point of deleting these frames? Then we need to delete the scenes with Nami, she loves to show her breasts. And the scenes in the shower after the gym will also have to be cut because there are naked girls. It turns out that all these frames must also be deleted or everything should be left as is. If you leave some of the frames and delete some, it looks very stupid.
Well, that's all good, but it's only YOUR definition of porn. Care to try convincing whoever is threatening to pull Ocean's license? Because their definition is the only one that counts for the purpose of that license.
 
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