I propose we set up an F95 forum SG wager. Those that wish to participate each put $5 into the pot, which is then deposited into an escrow account.
The last person or persons standing when SG is complete, win the wager. I don't know the average age of F95 forum members (Ocean is relatively young), but should no one be left upon completion of SG then the funds will contribute to a charity for AVN players recovering from blueballs.
Obviously, big /s
I am happy to be along for the SG ride at this stage, even if I don't see its completion for whatever reason.
why though? how does she have millions? nojiko is a good doctor and amber is a good psychologist. medical doctors I will argue make even more money than psychologists and amber is a single mom too putting bella through a private college. plus that bella seems to spend lots of money she drops a lot of money alone on the protags clothes.
the protag and nami don't seem to drop money like that.
unless amber is some kind of celebrity psychiatrist I do not buy it that bella should be so much higher on the socioeconomic ladder as she claims over the protagonist. there has to be more to it or else it doesn't add up.
We don't know Nojiko is a good doctor. Having helped Nick doesn't make her a great doctor earning great money. She's also working the public system, not a private practice. Amber might have married rich, got a great settlement divorcing Bella's dad, inherited, or has a fantastic credit rating - who knows? Noji might have had massive student debts to pay, or massive medical bills for Nikas violent incident. The simple thing is the Von Halen house is clearly worth more than the Cyrus house.
Also, Amber's clients are richer than the people who get admitted into a public hospital. Heck, Nia lives better than the Cyrus's.
We don't know Nojiko is a good doctor. Having helped Nick doesn't make her a great doctor earning great money. She's also working the public system, not a private practice. Amber might have married rich, got a great settlement divorcing Bella's dad, inherited, or has a fantastic credit rating - who knows? Noji might have had massive student debts to pay, or massive medical bills for Nikas violent incident. The simple thing is the Von Halen house is clearly worth more than the Cyrus house.
Also, Amber's clients are richer than the people who get admitted into a public hospital. Heck, Nia lives better than the Cyrus's.
Ocean received a game that has already achieved success thanks to Regium. Regium made characters with different personalities and behavior. Ocean could not repeat this and his characters are all the same and differ only in appearance.
I knew SG was Ocean's idea. I knew he gave it to Regium to make. I knew he took over the project from Regium, I didn't know who wrote the early script.
So, on one hand you praise Regium for making "characters with different personalities and behavior" that "Ocean could not repeat".
On the other hand, you state "The script for SG was made by Ocean, Regium only followed it".
That's a total contradiction!
I assume you mean Ocean made "characters with different personalities and behavior" that you no longer like after Ocean rewrote the script and dialed down the psychosis.
I don’t understand MC’s problem anymore, when he thinks about Summer, everything works, then for some reason it stops working. Once Nami rubs against MC, everything starts working again. If MC suffers from impotence, then even with dreams of Summer, nothing should work for him. This all looks far-fetched. If he was worried about this problem, MC would go to the doctor for pills. Why didn't Nojiko bring him pills from work?
I guess it depends on the underlying cause of the impotence (which is also a lack of libido) - pills don't necessarily "cure" underlying psychological problems. For example, you would give the MC a Viagra. Yes, he might get a boner but that doesn't mean he has the libido/desire to use it.
To be honest, I am not getting so hung up on this yet. The MC also alternates between periods where he can interact normally with others and periods when it all gets too much and either needs to be alone or suffers a panic attack.
Besides, Nami no longer gets the MC's dick hard in the Jacuzzi...
Since I started talking about Nojiko, she is also very strange. She works as a doctor in a hospital, since she was able to cure Zara’s father, whom other doctors could not help, then she is one of the best specialists. Doctors get a lot of money, it’s not a problem for them to buy a house like Bella’s, but specialists like Nojiko should get even more money. So why does MC say that their family has no money? Why do they live in a house for the poor? They must have a lot of money.
There is possibly a bit of a contradiction there. However, we don't know what hospital she works at or how much she is paid. We don't even know "which side of town" the hospital is (Nojiko lives in a middle class part of town), which could greatly affect $$. I don't recall if Nojiko has put aside $$ to put two children through college.
Family finances aside, there seems to be a prospect that Nojiko chooses to work where she does and live in the part of town she does to protect the MC and Nami...
Also, I don't think she is anything other than a regular MD. She's not referred to as a specialist or a surgeon or anything.
Well, the last thing I don’t understand is the new girls. Ocean in season 1 should introduce us to the characters. But instead he constantly adds new girls. At the beginning I added Sasha’s friends, a brunette and a redhead, we meet them in the corridor when we go on an excursion to an educational institution. They are stunningly beautiful, but until now we don’t even know their names. Then we are told about the women's basketball team, which we have yet to meet, and we should not forget that MC will go to the yoga club where there are only girls. Next, the MC is locked in handcuffs in the women's locker room where we meet many girls. And finally, we go to the reading club, where there are also a lot of girls. Is Ocean going to bombard us with female characters? I just don't understand how he's going to fit this into a game consisting of 32 chapters.
IMHO, that's a fallacy of typical AVNs where all or most of the female characters are expected to be fuckable.
Ocean has inhabited SG with a lot of background characters, most whom have no need to interact with the MC.
The current SG world looks LIVED-IN with so many background characters/people. That's something I like about the rework. Many other games have worlds featuring only a handful of people, i.e. all main characters (and I understand this, since DAZ models cost money).
Here's a case in point. The first day of college scenes between the original CH 1 (Regium's) and the new CH 1
Sasha's friends... what reason does the MC have to interact with them, let alone know their names? None! At least not yet... that would depend on his relationship with Sasha going forward.
Yeah, there are a host of upcoming events where we will potentially see new female characters. However, they just inhabit the SG universe. They aren't all there to interact with or fuck the MC.
The same applies to the locker room girls. They're background characters that have only an occasional need to interact with the MC.
I personally don't care how many characters Ocean introduces to us and I don't care if only a handful are LIs or lewdable. Last I heard, Ocean stated five LIs were still to be introduced by the end of chapter 4.5.
Ocean said a long time ago that Season 1 would be Bella-centric. That's been the case. There's been some progress with the other main LIs (Nami, Vic, Mila). And we're continually learning more about characters (for example, Nia, Bella, Sasha, Nami, and Zara in Ch 5).
We'll see what happens with story and main character progression...
One thing I do hope happens is that Ocean starts stretching the time in which things happen. At the moment, we're pretty much in the first 1-2 weeks. I hope he begins to start expanding things so they happen over the course of the year where we, the player, get's show cruicial moments and decisions with the general minutae of life fading into the background.
Yeah, that's one of the main things I am wondering how Ocean will handle over the course of the game. At present, as a strictly linear game, 32 chapters would only cover a couple of months.
I think we've covered a day shy of two weeks in seven chapters of season 1 (i.e. counting the .5's as separate chapters).
Yeah, that's one of the main things I am wondering how Ocean will handle over the course of the game. At present, as a strictly linear game, 32 chapters would only cover a couple of months.
I think we've covered a day shy of two weeks in seven chapters of season 1 (i.e. counting the .5's as separate chapters).
Did someone made the math with current parameters without speeding the process how much time to this game be completed?
Just for lols, would be fun to have a jokingly finish date.
hehe, now it's clear why the Ocean has always shied away from the question "Why is Ayua not LI"
That look from Katie speaks for itself.
and I understand why he added this render at the last moment View attachment 3045762
Mmm realistically speaking (I know, something serious from me? what is wrong with this world?), this is a statistical problem.
The analysis made above does not normalize by total number of pages. Therefore, novels with more comments are bound to have more people complaining just by pure numbers. CORRECTION: He did include the number of total pages.
More over, there is positive correlation between quality and release time (lenght between releases). Before some illiterate douchebag complains what I said, correlation does not imply causation. I just mean that to do great work requires a lot of work, long live redundancy, therefore we would expect positive correlation between the two.
There is also positive correlation between milking and release time. This is almost by definition.
So to separate the two effects, you would need to separate whether a developer is taking time for deloping the novel and increasing quality (which i assume leads to better experience for non trolls) from those developers that simply take a shit ton of time to milk patreons.
A way to do it, I would say, is evaluate product after release. High quality suggest time was spent working, no simply pushing for longer delivery time. Another frequent varied and proof based progress reports. Varied is important as simply showing the same progress over and over can simply be dev lying. Proof based is self explanatory.
Given those, I would say, thinking very fast:
SG not milking
BADIK probably not. Disclaimer I do t like that novel, but I dont believe up to chapter 5 that I played he was milking. Maybe it changed.
Light of my life not milking, but neither actively working on the novel. Need more information.
Summer heat i know nothing about.
Milfy City: not just milking but making yogurt, cream, cake, milkshakes and ice cream out of supporters.
Mmm realistically speaking (I know, something serious from me? what is wrong with this world?), this is a statistical problem.
The analysis made above does not normalize by total number of pages. Therefore, novels with more comments are bound to have more people complaining just by pure numbers. CORRECTION: He did include the number of total pages.
More over, there is positive correlation between quality and release time (lenght between releases). Before some illiterate douchebag complains what I said, correlation does not imply causation. I just mean that to do great work requires a lot of work, long live redundancy, therefore we would expect positive correlation between the two.
There is also positive correlation between milking and release time. This is almost by definition.
So to separate the two effects, you would need to separate whether a developer is taking time for deloping the novel and increasing quality (which i assume leads to better experience for non trolls) from those developers that simply take a shit ton of time to milk patreons.
A way to do it, I would say, is evaluate product after release. High quality suggest time was spent working, no simply pushing for longer delivery time. Another frequent varied and proof based progress reports. Varied is important as simply showing the same progress over and over can simply be dev lying. Proof based is self explanatory.
Given those, I would say, thinking very fast:
SG not milking
BADIK probably not. Disclaimer I do t like that novel, but I dont believe up to chapter 5 that I played he was milking. Maybe it changed.
Light of my life not milking, but neither actively working on the novel. Need more information.
Summer heat i know nothing about.
Milfy City: not just milking but making yogurt, cream, cake, milkshakes and ice cream out of supporters.
Uh Oh! You used the M-word multiple times in a single post and must join me in the low-effort troll club. Your club certificate is in the mail...
PS - my previous post only illustrates how many posts by F95 forum members mention the two M-words in particular threads. There's no other context and I wasn't gonna go through hundreds of posts to see how the terms were used.
For the record:
Games section of F95:
50 pages of search results for posts containing the term "Milker".
50 pages of search results for posts containing the term "Milking".
Allowance should be made here for a possible "Milking" / lactation fetish and tag.
So if Katie was showing up because someone else was showing up, it would be because of Nami. Literally nobody, not even Nami or Nojiko, would have known ahead of time that Nika would be there too.
Or Katie asked Nami to bring Nika to the club. And her *acquaintance* with Nami is the same as *acquaintance* of Amber with Nika.
The feeling never leaves me that Nami manipulated Nika to drag into the club.
Or Katie asked Nami to bring Nika to the club. And her *acquaintance* with Nami is the same as *acquaintance* of Amber with Nika.
The feeling never leaves me that Nami manipulated Nika to drag into the club.
"Something doesn't add up"]Only Nami was supposed to go with Nojiko to the book club. Nika literally forced Nojiko to bring him as well at the last minute.
So if Katie was showing up because someone else was showing up, it would be because of Nami. Literally nobody, not even Nami or Nojiko, would have known ahead of time that Nika would be there too.]
No one knew that Nika would be at the club? you're wrong, bro
3 people knew about it - Nami, Mila and Vic.
And I still think that Mila is not as simple as it seems
