VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[ttzzmm]

I dont post a lot in this forum but i gotta say the theories you guys come up with are incredible to read. This game features so many little hints and mysteries i never thought about.

It's also really cool to see that we are having civilized conversations again after the shitshow this thread was 2 weeks ago.

Keep the theories coming

 

[BobTheDuck]

Long text incoming: I've never used medication cause I refused to take any of them, so I'm not familiar with them and their effects. A quick search on google says that it's used to treat depression, OCD, PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder and Panic Attacks, so Ocean wasn't that far off.
However, it says that the tablet is usually taken daily, but it also comes as a liquid and concentrate, this last one has to be diluted (you can use different drinks besides water for this). It also says that it might take weeks or even longer to give you full benefit, that you should always take it even if you feel good, and if you stop taking it you will experience nausea, sweating, depression, mood changes, irritability, anxiety, tiredness, sleeping issues, etc.

So after this, I came to some conclusions that might explain what happened here:

- Ocean simply didn't know that it's not supposed to take effect that fast, and it could be solved by looking for a different medication OR create their own, tailoring specially to what Nika and Sasha need.
- Ocean does know exactly how Sertraline works, and Nika was just experimenting withdrawal symptoms. How? I dunno, don't have a theory for that one.

It can't be that Ocean knows, as Nika asks where he can get the pills. I'm pretty sure that Noji would be able to get most things for him, or refer him to someone anyway, so it's a bit of a plot hole. But it's as much of a plot hole as the adrenaline shot to the heart in Pulp Fiction. There are medicines, changing the name to a plausible one is easy.

It could be that this one is used even if not 100% correct because it's over the counter, so it doesn't fall into a drug use tag for steam? Purely pragmatic maybe?

 

[DemonLoverBoy]

By accident or design, the rooms the MC inhabited are different in their architecture.

I just noticed again a line Nami speaks at the bookclub... The MC asks Nami how long Noji had been going to the bookclub and Nami replies, "Forever. I remember her going to this club since we moved here." So, they weren't always in the house they live in now. Who knows when or from where they moved?

There was a mention of the cabin, from Nika's dream, being a six hour drive; I think it was Nami who mentioned it. I think it's safe to assume their old house was closer than that, much closer.

 

[furtunet]

Android port in spanish and english. ( Language can be changed in-game )

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Cheers big man ❤

 

[DemonLoverBoy]

Oh boi... the amount of new ratings that are complaining about the current lack of sex is just ridiculous.

You have been told about this, several times. There are even sexy police babes telling you this at the very beginning.

Yet, "how dare not be any sex after 5 years of development? How DARE YOU? This is a porn game BLA BLA BLA"

It is a valid criticism because it was always heavily implied that there would be sex, eventually, and that it was just a matter of time.

In fact, even the "sexy police babes" you mention say these, at the very beginning;

1. "We value your time"
2. "At the moment this game doesn't feature any sex scenes!"
3. "The first part of this game has a huge focus on relationship/world building."
4. "Consider coming back at a later point if your primary interest is lewd."

Would you have preferred they complain about "Only 5 chapters in 5 years" instead?

And before you jump into conclusions about me being a hater, let me tell you; I like Summer's Gone, in fact it's the only VN I have bothered to check/play the updates for for the last couple of years and I'm looking forward to more in the future.

 

[FunChaser]

It is a valid criticism ...

Really? I bet this sexy police babies screen will be removed as soon as Ocean adds the first 'lewd scene' in SG.

 

[DemonLoverBoy]

Really? I bet this sexy police babies screen will be removed as soon as Ocean adds the first 'lewd scene' in SG.

Yes, the criticism is valid. Exactly because the criticism is specifically about how long it's taking to add the "first 'lewd scene'".

 

[BobTheDuck]

Really? I bet this sexy police babies screen will be removed as soon as Ocean adds the first 'lewd scene' in SG.

I bet it'll be gone in the steam release - as it won't be a porn title on steam, there is no need for any disclaimer. Season 2 which will be standalone will like have the age verification thing. It purely exists for the patreons and pirates who seem to expect a string of surprise sex scenes thrown at them instead of a plot

 

[Sweexoss]

Mostly in the startpost, this game as an example:

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[PaxHadrian17]

It is a valid criticism because it was always heavily implied that there would be sex, eventually, and that it was just a matter of time.

In fact, even the "sexy police babes" you mention say these, at the very beginning;

1. "We value your time"
2. "At the moment this game doesn't feature any sex scenes!"
3. "The first part of this game has a huge focus on relationship/world building."
4. "Consider coming back at a later point if your primary interest is lewd."

Would you have preferred they complain about "Only 5 chapters in 5 years" instead?

And before you jump into conclusions about me being a hater, let me tell you; I like Summer's Gone, in fact it's the only VN I have bothered to check/play the updates for for the last couple of years and I'm looking forward to more in the future.

It is easy to criticize an AVN because it does not give someone what they want.

This is a pirate site where many people come to take something for free.

F95 has a well-organized system of tags that can be used in searches as well as a quick assessment - what is actually included in an AVN.

Summers Gone has NO tags for sex yet.

Then the creator, Ocean, adds in a screen that CANNOT be missed - saying NO SEX YET.

Still - after all of this - we have some takers who complain about the lack of sex and give poor ratings.

Why not give 1* ratings because Summers Gone has no Loli content or no NTR or no ..., etc.

So what if there are no tags for these - and they were not specifically mentioned on Ocean's 'sexy babes' screen warning, right?

I'm giving each person who rates SG or comments on SG credit for being at least 18 years old - AKA - an adult.

I see adults who Can read (whether or not they choose to check out the tags for SG and/or just click through Ocean's No Sex Yet warning page) complaining because they are not getting what they want When they want it - i.e. - sex with the LIs.

Do I believe that there will be sex, lewd times and other naked fun with the MC and some of the LIs in Season 2 - Yes!

Ocean wraps up primary world-building during Season 1 (while leaving/adding plenty of mystery for future seasons).

This world-building provides an interesting and deep framework within which the MC is growing various relationships, including those with potential LIs.

The depth of Ocean's world-building is a critical part of Summers Gone, IMO, - creating a living, breathing world we get to enjoy as we make choices to build or pass on deep relationships with potential LIs.

For me, this means that When sex happens between the MC and an LI - it will both fit the story and be a meaningful step in the MC/LI relationship.

If someone wants the equivalent of Pornhub shorts - Summers Gone, like Many of the good/great story-based AVNs that are still in the world-building phase - is not the place to scratch that itch.

For those who can't wait for the sex in an AVN - they have Literally thousands of other options on F95 that include sex.

Cheers!!

 

[Uriel ☁]

So after this, I came to some conclusions that might explain what happened here:

- Ocean simply didn't know that it's not supposed to take effect that fast, and it could be solved by looking for a different medication OR create their own, tailoring specially to what Nika and Sasha need.
- Ocean does know exactly how Sertraline works, and Nika was just experimenting withdrawal symptoms. How? I dunno, don't have a theory for that one.

Panic attacks are weird.
They're not like regular illnesses where the body is in need of something to fight them. They lie entirely in the brain and can appear and disappear at the drop of a hat.

The simple act of having taken a pill can resolve them, Sasha could've given him a sugar pill and would've had the same effect.

At the same time the fact that Sasha was with him and she knew what was happening to him helped more than any pill ever could. MC was fine when he was amid the book club and only had the panic attack when he found himself alone. It really depends on what triggered it.

 

[Nurikabe]

The problem is Ocean explicitly called it Sertraline, a real world drug, which is Zoloft for those of you that are unfamiliar with its marketing name. It is an anti-depressant.

Yep! And anyone who has taken it or anyone who works in the field has complained about it to Ocean.

Just my two cents here: I think the scene would have been much stronger if Sasha had gone up and done everything the same without the pill. Of course, the pill would not have created that kind of response in him. But having her there, holding his hand, and talking him through the attack would have been extremely powerful.

 

[Tadpol]

Yep! And anyone who has taken it or anyone who works in the field has complained about it to Ocean.

Just my two cents here: I think the scene would have been much stronger if Sasha had gone up and done everything the same without the pill. Of course, the pill would not have created that kind of response in him. But having her there, holding his hand, and talking him through the attack would have been extremely powerful.

Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.

 

[Nurikabe]

Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.

It was important enough that Ocean mentioned it by name. It is the wrong medication in that situation. But most likely, his point was to encourage the MC to request help from Amber and get on medication. We'll know soon enough.

The reason it is important and the reason it is being discussed is because it is a critical scene and speaks directly to the character of the MC. He is struggling with a real mental health issue and he wants to get better. As Sasha says, it doesn't get rid of the problem, it just masks the symptoms. Also a critical piece of information.

 

[Maviarab]

Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.

If you're 'carrying' pills like this...you have a major drug problem. These pills are taken once a day, usually at night, though morning is also common. You don't just 'carry around' depression/anxiety pills in your purse...unless you have far bigger issues.

 

[Ottoeight]

So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.

 

[alanrock]

So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.

 

[Sasanid]

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Bingo.

Extrapolating, but Sasha would have inside info with her there. And Robin seems to fit with everyone, would just be logical.

 

[Ottoeight]

Bingo.

Extrapolating, but Sasha would have inside info with her there. And Robin seems to fit with everyone, would just be logical.

How about Sasha having insides by herself (and Nika being inside her at the same time)?

 

[yossa999]

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Bingo.

Extrapolating, but Sasha would have inside info with her there. And Robin seems to fit with everyone, would just be logical.

At first I also had no doubt that this was Robin, but if you think about it, she overhears their conversation and asks to join the gang only when the MC goes to the gym with Mila. In other cases she doesn't know they're going to rent a house, so it is not necessary that she will be their fourth roommate. Although it is very likely.