BobTheDuck

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Really? I bet this sexy police babies screen will be removed as soon as Ocean adds the first 'lewd scene' in SG.
I bet it'll be gone in the steam release - as it won't be a porn title on steam, there is no need for any disclaimer. Season 2 which will be standalone will like have the age verification thing. It purely exists for the patreons and pirates who seem to expect a string of surprise sex scenes thrown at them instead of a plot :sneaky:
 

PaxHadrian17

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It is a valid criticism because it was always heavily implied that there would be sex, eventually, and that it was just a matter of time.

In fact, even the "sexy police babes" you mention say these, at the very beginning;
  1. "We value your time"
  2. "At the moment this game doesn't feature any sex scenes!"
  3. "The first part of this game has a huge focus on relationship/world building."
  4. "Consider coming back at a later point if your primary interest is lewd."

Would you have preferred they complain about "Only 5 chapters in 5 years" instead?

And before you jump into conclusions about me being a hater, let me tell you; I like Summer's Gone, in fact it's the only VN I have bothered to check/play the updates for for the last couple of years and I'm looking forward to more in the future.
It is easy to criticize an AVN because it does not give someone what they want.

This is a pirate site where many people come to take something for free.

F95 has a well-organized system of tags that can be used in searches as well as a quick assessment - what is actually included in an AVN.

Summers Gone has NO tags for sex yet.

Then the creator, Ocean, adds in a screen that CANNOT be missed - saying NO SEX YET.

Still - after all of this - we have some takers who complain about the lack of sex and give poor ratings.

Why not give 1* ratings because Summers Gone has no Loli content or no NTR or no ..., etc.

So what if there are no tags for these - and they were not specifically mentioned on Ocean's 'sexy babes' screen warning, right?

I'm giving each person who rates SG or comments on SG credit for being at least 18 years old - AKA - an adult.

I see adults who Can read (whether or not they choose to check out the tags for SG and/or just click through Ocean's No Sex Yet warning page) complaining because they are not getting what they want When they want it - i.e. - sex with the LIs.

Do I believe that there will be sex, lewd times and other naked fun with the MC and some of the LIs in Season 2 - Yes!

Ocean wraps up primary world-building during Season 1 (while leaving/adding plenty of mystery for future seasons).

This world-building provides an interesting and deep framework within which the MC is growing various relationships, including those with potential LIs.

The depth of Ocean's world-building is a critical part of Summers Gone, IMO, - creating a living, breathing world we get to enjoy as we make choices to build or pass on deep relationships with potential LIs.

For me, this means that When sex happens between the MC and an LI - it will both fit the story and be a meaningful step in the MC/LI relationship.

If someone wants the equivalent of Pornhub shorts - Summers Gone, like Many of the good/great story-based AVNs that are still in the world-building phase - is not the place to scratch that itch.

For those who can't wait for the sex in an AVN - they have Literally thousands of other options on F95 that include sex.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

Uriel ☁

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So after this, I came to some conclusions that might explain what happened here:

- Ocean simply didn't know that it's not supposed to take effect that fast, and it could be solved by looking for a different medication OR create their own, tailoring specially to what Nika and Sasha need.
- Ocean does know exactly how Sertraline works, and Nika was just experimenting withdrawal symptoms. How? I dunno, don't have a theory for that one.
Panic attacks are weird.
They're not like regular illnesses where the body is in need of something to fight them. They lie entirely in the brain and can appear and disappear at the drop of a hat.

The simple act of having taken a pill can resolve them, Sasha could've given him a sugar pill and would've had the same effect.

At the same time the fact that Sasha was with him and she knew what was happening to him helped more than any pill ever could. MC was fine when he was amid the book club and only had the panic attack when he found himself alone. It really depends on what triggered it.
 

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The problem is Ocean explicitly called it Sertraline, a real world drug, which is Zoloft for those of you that are unfamiliar with its marketing name. It is an anti-depressant.
Yep! And anyone who has taken it or anyone who works in the field has complained about it to Ocean.

Just my two cents here: I think the scene would have been much stronger if Sasha had gone up and done everything the same without the pill. Of course, the pill would not have created that kind of response in him. But having her there, holding his hand, and talking him through the attack would have been extremely powerful.
 
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Tadpol

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Yep! And anyone who has taken it or anyone who works in the field has complained about it to Ocean.

Just my two cents here: I think the scene would have been much stronger if Sasha had gone up and done everything the same without the pill. Of course, the pill would not have created that kind of response in him. But having her there, holding his hand, and talking him through the attack would have been extremely powerful.
Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.
 

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Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.
It was important enough that Ocean mentioned it by name. It is the wrong medication in that situation. But most likely, his point was to encourage the MC to request help from Amber and get on medication. We'll know soon enough.

The reason it is important and the reason it is being discussed is because it is a critical scene and speaks directly to the character of the MC. He is struggling with a real mental health issue and he wants to get better. As Sasha says, it doesn't get rid of the problem, it just masks the symptoms. Also a critical piece of information.
 
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Who cares if this drug exists IRL, and/or if it works as shown in this scene ?

In my opinion, the purpose of this scene is to show that Sasha knows what's happening to the MC, and that she's carrying something to remedy it. What this means is that she suffers from this same problem to the point of carrying pills to treat it, or that someone very close to her has this kind of problem.

It also justifies the fact that, in the near future, the MC may carry these pills with him.
If you're 'carrying' pills like this...you have a major drug problem. These pills are taken once a day, usually at night, though morning is also common. You don't just 'carry around' depression/anxiety pills in your purse...unless you have far bigger issues.
 

Ottoeight

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So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.
 

yossa999

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Bingo.

Extrapolating, but Sasha would have inside info with her there. And Robin seems to fit with everyone, would just be logical.
At first I also had no doubt that this was Robin, but if you think about it, she overhears their conversation and asks to join the gang only when the MC goes to the gym with Mila. In other cases she doesn't know they're going to rent a house, so it is not necessary that she will be their fourth roommate. Although it is very likely.
 

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So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.
No one.

Ideally I would like a choice to drop that idea entirely. Noji moves in with Nick. Mila moves in with the Frohn's. MC and Nami move back into the "trashcan" when the rat problem is fixed.

But it's Ocean so...I always expect my least desirable scenario...
You can't split Maja and Vic. Zara won't give up that huge house to share a box with 3 other people. Neither will Bella, Ayua or Sasha. Nor will Nia since she needs privacy and a sort of particular setup for her "work". Sonya sure as hell won't be as her family would never allow that. That leaves Jeff, Trey, Damien, Robin, Layla, Nadia or Nancy. Personally if it has to be someone I would prefer Jeff or Robin.
 
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crabsinthekitchen

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So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.
Have you seen Nia's place? It has an elevator that opens directly into her apartment, a giant panoramic window, and a stripper pole. You're telling me someone would leave that place to live on campus?
 

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So, Nika, Nami and Mila are moving in, in the end. They need a fourth person.

my favourite applicants would be:
- Victoria
- Nia
- Zara
- Jeff.


Who's going to be? which is your favourite candidate?

Mind you: I'm not asking who's your favourite character. I'm asking who would be best fit for living with Nika, Nami and Mila.
Zara? Really?

Realistically, it'd be Victoria, or Jeff I suppose. We know Maja's not doing so good what with Vic's medical expenses.
 

Ottoeight

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No one.

Ideally I would like a choice to drop that idea entirely.
It wouldn't make sense at all. It's happening and it is in the plotline since the very beginning.

Victoria is suitable because Nika and Mila are her closest friends now, and Maja needs some help. They would take care of her.
Zara is not Bella: she would do it because it would be a challenge for her - and she NEEDS to stay away from Vanessa.


Have you seen Nia's place? It has an elevator that opens directly into her apartment, a giant panoramic window, and a stripper pole. You're telling me someone would leave that place to live on campus?
Yeah, and she feels lonely and uncomfortable like hell. She'd trade it for living with friends on the spot, and Nika and Nami are her closest friends at the moment. She really needs to live with someone, and Nami & Nika like her and they're accepting her "job".
 
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