Cabin Fever

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Thank you both. Unfortunately this just further strengthens my belief that this will never be finished and I guess that's part of the reason why I haven't played it in so long, while another reason is that this is so good I end up playing and replaying for a week because nothing else really compares. I get the difficulties that development can present but a big part of it is how much of a perfectionist he is always with the need to redo everything... oh well at least WiaB is coming up, was not aware of that. Thanks again!
Maybe it's just me but I'll never understand the "it'll never be finished so it's not worth playing" argument. I mean, that's like saying "I'll never watch a tv show because they still have more episodes coming".

At the end of the day, it's just a game. Nothing will materially affect one's life if Ocean announces tomorrow that the games are being abandoned. So why not enjoy what already exists?
 

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❤Stunning Summer’s Gone clip, for those who have already completed season 1:


There are spoilers.
Why have I to log in that shitty google account to watch a vid about a AVN?
Are you forced by YT to do so, or whats the reason behind this.?
 

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Why have I to log in that shitty google account to watch a vid about a AVN?
Are you forced by YT to do so, or whats the reason behind this.?
Stupid Age Check, maybe it was labeled/uploaded as Adult Contend ... had that before with the Release Date Clip for u4ia.
 

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Maybe it's just me but I'll never understand the "it'll never be finished so it's not worth playing" argument. I mean, that's like saying "I'll never watch a tv show because they still have more episodes coming".

At the end of the day, it's just a game. Nothing will materially affect one's life if Ocean announces tomorrow that the games are being abandoned. So why not enjoy what already exists?
How many games with an abandoned tag have you tried starting? It's not hard to understand why someone wouldn't want to "waste" their time on a project that will never be completed.

I'm not one of them. I played Lexi and Bad Teacher knowing Chatterbox and WindWard had passed away and their games would never be finished. But most people wouldn't.

While I believe Ocean is too proud and stubborn to just abandon either game, I also believe neither will be finished. At least not in their current planned magnitude. He could always cut them short and rush the endings I guess. Especially if they become financially unsustainable.

So all in all, it's kinda hard to become invested in a game that you don't trust will come to a conclusion.
 
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How many games with an abandoned tag have you tried starting? It's not hard to understand why someone wouldn't want to "waste" their time on a project that will never be completed.

I'm not one of them. I played Lexi and Bad Teacher knowing Chatterbox and WindWard had passed away and their games would never be finished. But most people wouldn't.

While I believe Ocean is too proud and stubborn to just abandon either game, I also believe neither will be finished. At least not in their current planned magnitude. He could always cut them short and rush the endings I guess. Especially if they become financially unsustainable.

So all in all, it's kinda hard to become invested in a game that you don't trust will come to a conclusion.
I've started some well regarded games that were abandoned. I would consider a few of the outstanding ones worth it (Estate Dominate and Off the Record for example)

I'm enjoying the journey with Ocean's games. I'm confident that even if we we were to never see Chapter 32 Full, there will be enough progress and content to firmly cement both in a position at the top of the AVN pyramid.
 

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How many games with an abandoned tag have you tried starting?
I have play games that were abandoned before I've started, and I've played games that became abandoned after I've started.

It's not hard to understand why someone wouldn't want to "waste" their time on a project that will never be completed.
I still do not understand the "why". Whether the game has an ending or not is not a prerequisite to having a good time playing it. It's not wasted time if one has a good time playing it.

I'm not one of them. I played Lexi and Bad Teacher knowing Chatterbox and WindWard had passed away and their games would never be finished. But most people wouldn't.
Well...
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While I believe Ocean is too proud and stubborn to just abandon either game, I also believe neither will be finished. At least not in their current planned magnitude. He could always cut them short and rush the endings I guess. Especially if they become financially unsustainable.
You could very well be right, and I don't necessarily disagree with you on this point. But it's kinda irrelevant to my point.

So all in all, it's kinda hard to become invested in a game that you don't trust will come to a conclusion.
And here I think you've entirely missed my point. It's just a game, god damn it! The sun will still rise tomorrow if it gets abandoned. And nobody's wee wee will fall off neither.

The entire idea of getting emotionally invested in a game is just immature and silly in my opinion. If it's abandoned, move on to the next game. If one gets upset over it, seriously there's a bigger problem there than an abandoned game.
 

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I'm enjoying the journey with Ocean's games. I'm confident that even if we we were to never see Chapter 32 Full, there will be enough progress and content to firmly cement both in a position at the top of the AVN pyramid.
There is no need to compare these projects, they are not equivalent. SG is a fairly popular game, if it had not been developed for so long, it would have been in the top long ago. Wiab is rated as one of the worst games, and SG fans throw money at it out of pity.
 
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There is no need to compare these projects, they are not equivalent. SG is a fairly popular game, if it had not been developed for so long, it would have been in the top long ago. Wiab is rated as one of the worst games, and SG fans throw money at it out of pity.
For one with such a dislike for the developer and his games, you sure spend a lot of time thinking about and commenting on them.

You come off as bitter.
 

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WIAB Chapter 3 - Dev Log #23

Hello,



So, I'll need one or two more weeks for Chapter 3.

Polishment turned out to be more intensive than usual. I experimented a lot during the development and I had to redo a few renders here and there and also came across a scene I didn't render in the past.

It was a scene on the barn and I skipped it because I was fed up with the performance of the scene.

I finished the scene in the past two days and it's been in the queue for around 10 hours now.

I think the last render estimate was 1680. But I think it will end up with 1800-1900 for the update.

It's 94 renders in the queue and the WIAB PC needs around 3-5 days to do them.

I'd use the SG PC to speed it up, but these scenes are so WiAB specific, that I don't have the assets on the SG PC. And SG currently has its own queue to work down.

It leads to a ton of errors and stops the queue entirely. It's just a headache.

When I get the Workstation, I'll merge all the libraries and create my own big network library for all of the PCs.

There's a little risk that I might be without internet for a few days in early December due to my move but I'm sure they'll manage to coordinate the internet-access-move with my hardware move.



There's one animation I still want to do as I think it really fits the occasion, but besides that, all animations are done.



I had said I wouldn't show any more previews, but here are two from the barn scene I skipped and then forgot about.

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I'm not rushing the release this close before properly finishing it, and I'm not going to fuck my health over a previously estimated release date.

It will need a little more time.



- Ocean
 

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Dang! I don't write many comments here but gotta say Oceans is writing a phenomenal story. Interactions with many of the important characters make you really care about and want to invest in each one in some way. Each girl has their quirks but man, I love them all. I'm finding myself struggling with many of the decisions, not wanting to hurt the other girls, but still wanting to go further with each one. Music is also adding quite a bit to the ambience, leaving me in a weird feeling state after playing a session of this game. Now i'm at the end of what has been released so far, its going to be a very painful wait for future content.

And where is Summer...? I wonder if her family took her away because it was beneath her to hang out with the MC and fall in love with him. So they probably made her go to another school growing up and college too, to get more involved with people in her "class" and most likely a rival of MCs college. Or...maybe her family had disagreements with the founding families of MC's college so she had to go to another. I bet she will be reintroduced when the MC has formed deep bonds with the girls around him, and that return will cause.....complications. But really looking forward to what comes next.
 

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i'm pretty sure that this have been discussed but only now i've realized that Kelly (church girl) has the same 'cross' earring like Daphne and i don't think she wears it just because she's a church girl. could Kelly be Daphne's daughter? there has to be something about these earrings..
 
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"After a traumatic experience, a young spirit tries to find its way back into life. College is about to start and mysteries are about to unfold."

That description couldnt be more vague.. and those words : "young" and "college" - seem to be the standard cliche trope
 

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"After a traumatic experience, a young spirit tries to find its way back into life. College is about to start and mysteries are about to unfold."

That description couldnt be more vague.. and those words : "young" and "college" - seem to be the standard cliche trope
Description is the least vague thing in the game. But yeah, totally standard cliché game with landlady, roommate and the MC who attracts every girl.

 

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Dang! I don't write many comments here but gotta say Oceans is writing a phenomenal story. Interactions with many of the important characters make you really care about and want to invest in each one in some way. Each girl has their quirks but man, I love them all. I'm finding myself struggling with many of the decisions, not wanting to hurt the other girls, but still wanting to go further with each one. Music is also adding quite a bit to the ambience, leaving me in a weird feeling state after playing a session of this game. Now i'm at the end of what has been released so far, its going to be a very painful wait for future content.

And where is Summer...? I wonder if her family took her away because it was beneath her to hang out with the MC and fall in love with him. So they probably made her go to another school growing up and college too, to get more involved with people in her "class" and most likely a rival of MCs college. Or...maybe her family had disagreements with the founding families of MC's college so she had to go to another. I bet she will be reintroduced when the MC has formed deep bonds with the girls around him, and that return will cause.....complications. But really looking forward to what comes next.
Yeah, welcome to the club. It's a bit like being hooked on a seasonal TV program. That time of year arrives when a season drops, you devour it, then have to wait another 12 to 18 months for the next season (all while praying it doesn't get cancelled inbetween)...

"Dang! I don't write many comments..." That's gotta be the understatement of the year, considering it's your first ever forum post. ;)
 

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Any word on ch5 final dropping? Been holding back on playing the beta in hopes for the full thing soon but it doesnt seem like its going to happen as soon as I had hoped and im about to cave and play the beta lol
 
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Any word on ch5 final dropping? Been holding back on playing the beta in hopes for the full thing soon but it doesnt seem like its going to happen as soon as I had hoped and im about to cave and play the beta lol
I believe Ocean said in one of the dev logs that he was hoping the Ch5 final would be out sometime in December.

I'm doing the same thing you are. I loaded one of the few working saves I had from Ch 4.5 in order to play the Ch5 beta, but I am not playing it from the beginning until the CH5 full releases.
 
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