yossa999

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Thanks for the update, but pls allow me to note beeing not very happy with all the effort wasted into old chapters.
Instead of it I rather would prefer all the manpower is invested in proceeding with this amazing story.

As I posted here https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-12270910 the potential of this game is almost endless, and I don´t want to wait 10 years until I finally get to know what happend to Summer..............

Btw I also was happy with Milas old look, but thank heavens she is still stunning and my favorite char ;)
Have you ever heard of the TV series "Lost" (2004)? This is just my raw speculation, but I think Summer is somewhat similar to the Smoke Monster from Lost.
I mean that this is some kind of unknown fucking shit, it’s unclear what it is, it’s unclear where it came from, it’s unclear why this shit even exist :HideThePain:
But nevertheless, it constantly rushes around the characters and brings them troubles.:HideThePain: At least the mystery surrounding it kept viewers interested for several seasons.
I hope Ocean turns out to be more capable than the Lost screenwriters, and Smoke Monster Summer turns out to be more than just some ridiculous dead dude whose story stoned screenwriters came up with at the last minute. :HideThePain:
But I think things may be even worse, so at the end of the game we still won't know what happened to Summer. :KEK:
 
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Yeah, it's a shame things aren't kept simple. Mila seems to have a different salon hairstyle every other day. Maybe it's something unique to her character...

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Maybe she's so poor b/c she is always visiting expensive hair salons?

New Mila > Old. The old model had completely unrealistic proportions and would stick out like a sore thumb in any chapter that features the improved render quality.
 

Krytax123

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I dont really give a shit as mila is probably my least favorite LI but holy shit, her old look is like so many leagues above the new one at least in these two pics. While playing i didnt noticed the difference this much tbh.

And it kinda sounds like ocean didnt really understood his tax office or they explained it badly? If his liquidity is really fucked he shouldnt buy a lot of music for a lot of money anyway and otherwise whats the difference about writing it off for 10 years compared to a shorter duration? Esp if he bought this much licences already, it should be a good yearly tax reduction.

Its pretty obivous that he will still be developing summers gone in 10 years lol
 

seniorboop

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Bella doesn't like people. She has a few close friends and doesn't want anyone else. She also has a strong prejudice and hostility towards men. She has no male friends, the closest one is a gay barber. It is illogical for a girl who interacts so little with people to have random sex outside, fresh out of high school. Also, even in her first limited flirtations with Nika, she behaved strangely, so she is not like a girl who has sex at all. The surprise of her close friends at Bella's kiss with Nika is proof enough. So yes, it is very illogical that Bella, who is a big event even kissing a man, is having random sex around.
Python:
        b "Still, I have friends in this community. Loyal friend's I'd find nowhere else."
        scene sb791 with dssa
        d "Male and female?"
        scene sb792 with dssa
        b "Yes, both genders."
The cap must be stopped
 

BobTheDuck

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I dont really give a shit as mila is probably my least favorite LI but holy shit, her old look is like so many leagues above the new one at least in these two pics. While playing i didnt noticed the difference this much tbh.

And it kinda sounds like ocean didnt really understood his tax office or they explained it badly? If his liquidity is really fucked he shouldnt buy a lot of music for a lot of money anyway and otherwise whats the difference about writing it off for 10 years compared to a shorter duration? Esp if he bought this much licences already, it should be a good yearly tax reduction.

Its pretty obivous that he will still be developing summers gone in 10 years lol
The problem with writing off assets is you have to depreciate them over time, while you still need to acquire new assets. As it's depreciated over ten years, he's not able to claim the full cost in one year, but he's actually paid out the full cost in one year. the following year, he needs more assets, so he's further out of pocket and still can't claim the full expense, so he ends up getting taxed on more money than he has each year. Sure it helps in other years, but if you need to buy something on a yearly basis it hurts really quickly.

That's probably why he went for cheaper licenses that were yearly, because subs get taxed as a different expense, because they're a lease instead of a purchase.
 

Krytax123

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The problem with writing off assets is you have to depreciate them over time, while you still need to acquire new assets. As it's depreciated over ten years, he's not able to claim the full cost in one year, but he's actually paid out the full cost in one year. the following year, he needs more assets, so he's further out of pocket and still can't claim the full expense, so he ends up getting taxed on more money than he has each year. Sure it helps in other years, but if you need to buy something on a yearly basis it hurts really quickly.

That's probably why he went for cheaper licenses that were yearly, because subs get taxed as a different expense, because they're a lease instead of a purchase.
Are the assets written off for 10 years too? Thought they are a shorter time and he was only talking about expensive music licences? This would definitly change my perspective. But as of now he can write off ~10% off all music liscences he bought so far which should reduce his tax this year with the expenses of the last years accordingly. But whatever, ocean will find a solution.
 

John972

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thank you for clarifying your thoughts/observations about the heterochromic cunt ;).
That "heterochromic cunt" has some as-yet unknown agenda with the MC, and he's blindly walking into it because he thinks he's the one in control of the situation.

On the Mila route, "HC" warns at the dinner table that she knows a lot about "Ms. Steiner" even although she and Mila had never met before that night. She only says this if the MC and Mila are forming a close relationship, just like there are things she only says if the MC and Bella are a thing. The MC concludes Vanessa likes to find pressure points and exploit them, but doesn't muse on why she is honing in on HIS pressure points (be that Bella, Nami, or Mila).

What struck me is that for all the MC's scheming, he hasn't picked up on Vanessa's admission about Mila, which should be ringing very large alarm bells in his head (considering Vanessa's boyfriends' family are looking to press criminal charges against Mila and the MC is in a plot with Bella to use Vanessa to destroy her boyfriend)
 

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That "heterochromic cunt" has some as-yet unknown agenda with the MC, and he's blindly walking into it because he thinks he's the one in control of the situation.
Where are such conclusions from? I don’t think she’s interested in him at all, especially since she has a boyfriend whom she shoved a toy up his ass. :KEK:
I think this is generally a path of submission. The older sister loves to dominate people. The younger sister is used to obeying.
 
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Where are such conclusions from? I don’t think she’s interested in him at all, especially since she has a boyfriend whom she shoved a toy up his ass. :KEK:
I think this is generally a path of submission. The older sister loves to dominate people. The younger sister is used to obeying.
You seem to enjoy being getting dominated in this thread with all your awful takes, so Vanessa's path should be right up your alley (the buttplug too!).
 

BobTheDuck

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Are the assets written off for 10 years too? Thought they are a shorter time and he was only talking about expensive music licences? This would definitly change my perspective. But as of now he can write off ~10% off all music liscences he bought so far which should reduce his tax this year with the expenses of the last years accordingly. But whatever, ocean will find a solution.
I don't know the specifics in Germany, but typically there are no limits to what you can buy for a business - could you imagine that a German advertising company can only buy the amount Ocean bought for season 1 every ten years? The tax department probably doesn't care so much about the purchases, just about the way they are claimed - Ocean most likely can't afford the cash flow to purchase huge amounts more before these start depreciating significantly enough:

Thought experiment with simple figures (from a person who hates accounting):

Business has revenue of $50000. Music licenses cost $10000. Business can only claim 10% depreciation per year for assets, so is taxed on $49000, but actually only has $40000 after the purchases.

Justifying assets that have to be depreciated is really hard at the start. Once you've got on the train, it works okay, but you have to make sure you have no short term issues because all purchases are effectively long term burdens.

The cash flow regret is real. And yes, Ocean will find the best way for him to manage his affairs; he does seem to plan for the long term pretty well :cool:
 

Nurikabe

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I feel like I have been catfished by Mila.
I pursued the old Mila, hard.
And yet somehow ended up in a relationship with a fat chick that I am not at all attracted to.
That is what you get for going after a woman "only a black man would love." She has HUGE tits and HUGE ass and thighs. What did you think would happen? She would keep that tiny waste? Hah! Women grow and widen, not the opposite. ;)
 

Doomyk

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I have to confess, I don't like Mila. I mean, I love her personality but I don't like her looks. The most recent version from CH5 has fixed the sculpting issue or whatever it was, but I still don't like her visual appearance. But, I find very attractive Nami, Bella, Sasha, Robin, Zara, Nadia, Maja, Nia, Amber, Kate, Sasha's motley friend, Wrong Cheeto, Girl in a baseball cap, Coach Hill, Ceril older sis. I don’t know what to think about Vic, I like some of her images, while others look strange or ridiculous.
It seems to me that redoing renders is only one side of this problem. The main problem is reworking personalities and events as the game progresses. For example, the same Mila. When I followed her path, it was a bit boring, exactly until the moment in the morning at Vicky’s house, when she aggressively says that she’s tired of watching and being left on the sidelines (on Bella’s path). I was just surprised and a little interested. The wolf showed her fangs a little. And the question immediately arose, why didn’t you fight before? Even in the scene in the gym, when Bella *marked* her territory, Mila simply tucked her tail and ran away. And the answer is simple - during the reworking of the game, the story became less grim and now dirty battles and dramatic moves are less accessible. And this is sad, because the example of Bella + Nami is one of the most interesting in the game. As well as the fact that the dev is very careful with romance of the best friends or even relatives of those who love the main character. Starting from Aya and Robin and even ending with Victoria’s sister. As if in real life it’s not that friends and even best friends don’t take away their loved ones, don’t cheat with them, or even their closest relatives don’t do the same? As if the situation where Vicky’s sister fell in love with Nika and took him away, not caring about her sister’s feelings, is unrealistic? Does this never happen in real life?
And this is only one part of the problem. The other is trying to balance and reworking characters if they are not popular. Take Nia for example. In the latest update, the character has obviously changed a lot, there are even plans to completely change her job to please the viewer. I didn’t really like the fact that she was a webcam girl at first and I didn’t consider her as a love interest, but I had nothing against her screen time. She contrasted with many characters and her manner of saying whatever came to mind without thinking about where and with whom was funny. But with the changes, she is still not interesting to me as a love interest, but will she be interesting as a character, after removing her individuality is a question for the future. Or for example Mila, she used to be an onlyfans model, in the last chapter she is a businesswoman and is engaged in sales. Such small and large changes are visible with many characters and this is not for the better. Take away everything that we love or hate in the character and this is unlikely to add popularity to the audience, but it can easily destroy the character himself. The developer just needs to understand that not all characters are of equal value in the eyes of the audience. Each character has their own strengths and weaknesses. Each has their own personality. For obvious reasons, all sorts of crazy chicks/psycho or queens will be more popular than quiet and gray mice. For obvious reasons, prostitutes, strippers and camgirls won't become everyone's favorites. But that doesn't mean you have to change them. Yes, they won't be love interests, but their storyline can be cool. And by changing a character, you can easily kill the storyline and not add interest to the audience.
 
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