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Who would have thought a VN with a good story would be well received
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At the moment it is true that there are still no sexual scenes, but there will be in the future.
If you are curious about the possible results, you can look at Ocean's other works.
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I suppose, I haven't played it as I don't expect it to ever be finished.
Tall words, whippersnapper!
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Does it really matter? Just curious
I don't know if even Ocean believes that he will be able to finish both SG and WIAB, not even talking about his older plans of creating whole universe with at least 2 or 3 more games
Hopefully successful Steam release will be that needed push to be able to make development even more efficient, especially after covering all reworks.I mean, in reality, literally any AVN on this website could be abandoned for particular reasons at random moment, but it is what it is. Just try to enjoy what you have right now and that's it.
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Let me clarify that: Ocean said that the existing confirmed LIs would very likely remain as such, and he would notify if someone got demoted to non-LI. He was rather referring to new LIs that he would not announce if someone new made the list in order to keep some surprise. The LI list remains relevant in the future, it just might be incomplete and miss some LIs.It's not that I'm criticizing your point of view, bro, or that I think it's not valid. But if he goes this route, he will have to significantly shorten the story. 32 chapters at this pace? Pfft. He should make trade-offs between quality and speed of development, as many have already said. In the end, it might still be a good game, but it won't be the Summer's Gone we know now.
I have no idea how Ocean plans to mitigate these issues, but he seems determined to make the game the way he's originally intended. Perhaps he has some decisions that we do not know about and which he has not announced. He knows how to surprise.
As for the 12 LIs list, is it probably based on the lonelyk's list?
lonelyk did a great job putting everything together, but Ocean's latest statement was that he was no longer confirming that a certain girl is a LI. You'll have to find out for yourself by playing the game. So maybe he has already changed something, but we won’t know until the end of the game
Let me enhance said eruption.
I posted on Discord a while ago that I'm not going to mention changes regarding the LIs anymore. Except if someone loses their LI status, which is most likely never going to be the case.
But I won't mention it anymore if someone becomes an LI, or a new LI is introduced. Sorry.
That's now for the player to find out.
If a girl gets her own epilogue chapter at the end of the game, you know she was an LI.
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To me it matters. I have way too much to do/watch/read to waste my time on a story that will never be resolved. I generally do not play incomplete games.Does it really matter? Just curious
I don't know if even Ocean believes that he will be able to finish both SG and WIAB, not even talking about his older plans of creating whole universe with at least 2 or 3 more games
I mean, in reality, literally any AVN on this website could be abandoned for particular reasons at random moment, but it is what it is. Just try to enjoy what you have right now and that's it.
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Bye then....not sure why you're hanging around...
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Because people are directly replying to me, and I was answering a question. Was your comment necessary?
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Got it. You're missing out a lot of good stuff but if that's how it work for you, then it's fair enough I guess.
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I'm replying to you too...but any normal person would just move on from something they have no interest in...not keep doubling down on the semantics of why they don't like it.
Like people 'announcing' they are stopping playing a VN...who cares...just move on and stop wasting your time.
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There's plenty of old farts like me around here, older than you and older than me.
The funny thing about it seems to be that the younger folk seem to care about the long development period and long update cycle more than the older kind. At least that's the impression I've developed over the years hanging around here.
Do you think you're going to care about missing the games ending after you're dead?
Are you sure?We're going to have a great ride playing it until the game gets finished or we die, no diff which one comes first, IMO. I have no hurry with neither of them.
One thing you can be sure of is that you will have plenty of time to learn the language until the game gets finished.
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Merry Christmas to Ocean and anyone who celebrate Christmas and like this game.
Yeah i think thats very interresting, esp as he dont seem to be just an associate, it looks more like he's her right hand and even her confidant. He was able to anticipate how Leia will react when willy visited the nightclub (like when he ordered the girls to not look at leia's face because he knew/suspected she would be crying) which is pretty big imo considering how withdrawn Leia is at this point.
It seems to indicate that emilio is the only one which leia told about her past with willy (not counting the other zane's) and kinda begs the question if he's still working for leia in SG.
After replaying wiab another time today im even more sure that Nika has to be a Zane, he has literally the same eyes like dylan and leia and shares a lot of other traits with leia too (my guess hes willy & leia's son).
And nami has to be the daugther of daphne, she looks entirely like her just with a different haircut.
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Someone did the math a while ago and at the average speed of updates, how many chapters ocean had planned, etc, WIAB and SG wound not be finished until 2030+, let alone the 5 or whatever games he has planned in the same universe.
summer's gone is currently releasing 1 chapter every 2 years (0.5 per year). I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but I believe he had planned more than 20 chapters. That puts completion beyond 2050. Those who are still alive then will probably be living underground eating rats and cockroaches.
For me, unless a developer has proven previously that they can complete projects I just assume every AVN will get abandoned eventually. you also have to factor that over time standards improve, it's fairly safe to assume that some time down the track these two AVN's are going to start to look pretty dated. Is Ocean going to be content to keep tinkering away on a project that looks like it was made last decade without doing another remake, his recent history suggests no chance.
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jesus Christ man that's way too long to wait for a game. I should be back here in 7 years, if this page is still up by 2030...
If the MC is William and Leih's son, then I find it strange that Emilio would have no idea who the MC was when they met, given he was/is Leih's right-hand man and Katie seems to know who they are . One thing about Emilio, though... he's sure-as-hell more relaxed and chill in SG than WIAB,
Don't worry you live long enough, games like this are abandoned long before you reach 60. A 2-3 year is much more realistic, than > 10 years.
My experience is that if you work on a project for 10 years, you start to see the things you did wrong in the beginning (to such an extend that you cannot look around it anymore), or maybe lose interest in development at all...