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Just for the record, there's a different between 'either/or' or 'and'. Things can have multiple reasons for complications. Ocean can be breaking the fourth wall AND progressing the plot AND creating tensions. None of these things are mutually exclusive. THe whole book club scene is about not trying to find a canon intrepretation AND it's about canon events. That might seem contradictory, but it's not, simple because there are different levels at which the story is being told.I dont really think Noji would be this offended about Nika saying something bad about her kids-book, she raised him since he was a little boy and usually parents know about the possibility of their kids sometimes being obnoxious, even more in a case like Nika lol.
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Immediatly after these renders Katie walks up to Nika and to Nami afterwards.
And never ever has Noji of all people an outburst like that just because she feels uncomfortable about Katie hearing her book (which Noji would have provided in this case) being read. We never saw Noji behave like that and i think its very certain that she wouldnt if it isnt about something important.
And as i said, it was planned that Nami was tagging, the people in the bookclub knew about it and one of them told Katie about it and therefore she attended (Nami wears Leia's earring, it isnt only about Nika, Nami is equally important).
I dont think Noji would be this pissed about Katie being there without Nika tagging along as Nami can handle stuff if nessecary. Im sure Noji had at least considered the possibility of a Zane attending when getting knowledge of Nami coming with her (and therefore didnt wanted Nika to tag along), it was only Nika's last minute decision which made it shitty for Noji.
And Katie just got lucky, instead of only meeting one of them she was able to introduce herself to Nami and Nika at the same time in surroundings where shes able to watch them interact with other people and not in an awkward college setting.
Noji very obviously doesnt consider Nika ready to tackle his past yet, thats why she hides her connections to various people including Amber, Sasha and her mother and the Zane's.
Thinking about it the whole story about the tennis-club being too expensive is made up too, Bella offering Noji to get her a better deal as her mother knows sasha's mom is kinda funny considering Noji knows Amber and Elena Petrova herself and apparently knows anyone with influence and wealth lol.
But yeah maybe Ocean just thought: "Lets throw katie in there to mindfuck everyone!"
A story always requires us to extrapolate from ourselves, we read our selves into every story, the level with which we identify will most likely make the story more significant to us. Ocean plays with percepttion a lot, with multiple visual threads in and out of focus; why would he not do the same with the plot? Noji can be upset for more than one reason at a time - I know my family are capable of whole shitstorms based on things that only exist in their mind's perception that no one else can see. So yeah, not arguing against the obvious reading of the events but interested to see if there are more tangents. Just as Sasha's words are metaphors foreshadowing her potential relationships with Nika, thaey can also break the fourth wall, and they can also relate Noji's book if it even is, all at the same time.
This is probably the greatest strength in Ocean's writing; he allows for subtext, he allows for interpretation and speculation. Very few AVN's (in my opinion) can keep the abiguity going for so long as a plot device. Keeping things amorphous allows Ocean to keep the intrigue agile.
Don't mind me, just back from a gig, slightly too much whine with my wine. And definitely Ocean said let's mind fuck everybody, that is guaranteed in every situation other than Nami's bread rolls.
I agree with everything you wrote, it’s just the Noji‘s book stuff I deem unlikely and kinda random hahaJust for the record, there's a different between 'either/or' or 'and'. Things can have multiple reasons for complications. Ocean can be breaking the fourth wall AND progressing the plot AND creating tensions. None of these things are mutually exclusive. THe whole book club scene is about not trying to find a canon intrepretation AND it's about canon events. That might seem contradictory, but it's not, simple because there are different levels at which the story is being told.
A story always requires us to extrapolate from ourselves, we read our selves into every story, the level with which we identify will most likely make the story more significant to us. Ocean plays with percepttion a lot, with multiple visual threads in and out of focus; why would he not do the same with the plot? Noji can be upset for more than one reason at a time - I know my family are capable of whole shitstorms based on things that only exist in their mind's perception that no one else can see. So yeah, not arguing against the obvious reading of the events but interested to see if there are more tangents. Just as Sasha's words are metaphors foreshadowing her potential relationships with Nika, thaey can also break the fourth wall, and they can also relate Noji's book if it even is, all at the same time.
This is probably the greatest strength in Ocean's writing; he allows for subtext, he allows for interpretation and speculation. Very few AVN's (in my opinion) can keep the abiguity going for so long as a plot device. Keeping things amorphous allows Ocean to keep the intrigue agile.
Don't mind me, just back from a gig, slightly too much whine with my wine. And definitely Ocean said let's mind fuck everybody, that is guaranteed in every situation other than Nami's bread rolls.
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If it works out to be included in that way, it would be as random as the raccoons, mice ...and bread rolls
I mean what better way for Noji to get it proof read?
But it'll certainly never be an A grade mystery like how Noji seems to know everyone important in the town personally and is hiding it.
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When is it planned? I am not crying about update times. I just never seen the date mentioned. 1-2 months?
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https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-12561745
And something about progress (without date) https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-12568148
Gave this one a try as my second game on here. Not been dissapointed in the slightest. Great worldbuilding and a very intruiging story so far. Have so far only played through the available chapters once, so im curious to see how different the story can be if u make different choices. I went the "bella" route for my first game so im definetly trying a different one as well.
Keep up the great work. can't wait for more chapters. You have a new patron on patreon secured!
Keep up the great work. can't wait for more chapters. You have a new patron on patreon secured!
One has to wonder why Katie was so impatient to attend the book club session to meet Nami, especially knowing Nojiko was there.I dont really think Noji would be this offended about Nika saying something bad about her kids-book, she raised him since he was a little boy and usually parents know about the possibility of their kids sometimes being obnoxious, even more in a case like Nika lol.
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Immediatly after these renders Katie walks up to Nika and to Nami afterwards.
And never ever has Noji of all people an outburst like that just because she feels uncomfortable about Katie hearing her book (which Noji would have provided in this case) being read. We never saw Noji behave like that and i think its very certain that she wouldnt if it isnt about something important.
And as i said, it was planned that Nami was tagging, the people in the bookclub knew about it and one of them told Katie about it and therefore she attended (Nami wears Leia's earring, it isnt only about Nika, Nami is equally important).
I dont think Noji would be this pissed about Katie being there without Nika tagging along as Nami can handle stuff if nessecary. Im sure Noji had at least considered the possibility of a Zane attending when getting knowledge of Nami coming with her (and therefore didnt wanted Nika to tag along), it was only Nika's last minute decision which made it shitty for Noji.
And Katie just got lucky, instead of only meeting one of them she was able to introduce herself to Nami and Nika at the same time in surroundings where shes able to watch them interact with other people and not in an awkward college setting.
Noji very obviously doesnt consider Nika ready to tackle his past yet, thats why she hides her connections to various people including Amber, Sasha and her mother and the Zane's.
Thinking about it the whole story about the tennis-club being too expensive is made up too, Bella offering Noji to get her a better deal as her mother knows sasha's mom is kinda funny considering Noji knows Amber and Elena Petrova herself and apparently knows anyone with influence and wealth lol.
But yeah maybe Ocean just thought: "Lets throw katie in there to mindfuck everyone!"
Considering Katie's association with ZPR Basketball (Katie designed the ZPR woman's basketball kit. Coach Hill told Katie about her and Coach Stahl's hail-Mary team tryout gambit, which she approved of) and assuming she's aware Nami and Nika are involved in the sport, she could simply find an excuse to attend a practice session while Nami and Nika are there.
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I think that Where It All Began It will be released on 14/01/24, and Summer's Gone 28/01/24.
turbojoe
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Don´t expect too much, the only clear and logical route here is Bella so far.
The only extra romance scene I could get was kissing Mila in Ch 4.5, all other possible relationsships (Nami, Victoria, Nadja, Nia, Zara...) imo aren´t really developed in this currently state of the game.
Anyway another playthrough is always fun
If you look for a VN with several clear differentiated routes/relationsships give BareWitness, SandStorm, SnowStorm a shot.
Ragna The Bloodedge
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We can also go with the Nami route. But in season 1, the game forces us to be with Bella. It's not a problem for me, but as I think about why the producer did this and come up with theories, bad thoughts come to my mind. I just hope this thought is not true. I really don't want to lose Bella.Don´t expect too much, the only clear and logical route here is Bella so far.
The only extra romance scene I could get was kissing Mila in Ch 4.5, all other possible relationsships (Nami, Victoria, Nadja, Nia, Zara...) imo aren´t really developed in this currently state of the game.
Anyway another playthrough is always fun
If you look for a VN with several clear differentiated routes/relationsships give BareWitness, SandStorm, SnowStorm a shot.
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This shit's been in beta since 2023 smh
mf doesn't wanna cash in the Steam release for whatever reason
mf doesn't wanna cash in the Steam release for whatever reason
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You forgot Victoria. I have no clue why you think Vic's story isn't "developed" as Mila's.Don´t expect too much, the only clear and logical route here is Bella so far.
The only extra romance scene I could get was kissing Mila in Ch 4.5, all other possible relationsships (Nami, Victoria, Nadja, Nia, Zara...) imo aren´t really developed in this currently state of the game.
Anyway another playthrough is always fun
If you look for a VN with several clear differentiated routes/relationsships give BareWitness, SandStorm, SnowStorm a shot.
In chapter 4.5 you kiss Nami before the chapter ends, and at the end of chapter 5 if you are on Bella's route and you accept the date with Vic, then you kiss Vic and you tell to Bella about that kiss, there is a scene where if you select the option to start the race MC can kiss with nami again
I felt like u could choose to focus on bella, nami, vic or mila, so ill try those in the coming days. Tnx for the recommendations, ill def have a look!Don´t expect too much, the only clear and logical route here is Bella so far.
The only extra romance scene I could get was kissing Mila in Ch 4.5, all other possible relationsships (Nami, Victoria, Nadja, Nia, Zara...) imo aren´t really developed in this currently state of the game.
Anyway another playthrough is always fun
If you look for a VN with several clear differentiated routes/relationsships give BareWitness, SandStorm, SnowStorm a shot.
turbojoe
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I guess you´re right, but at first I decided for the walk with Mila despite with Vic - have to make up.....
L_0k_i
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No no I mean all Android links of SG and WiAB are not updated. SG ends with v4.5 and WiAB ends with chapter 2