PaxHadrian17

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I have not seen anything from Ocean saying that SG CH 5 full will be delayed until SG season 1 is submitted to Steam so I think that there is a good chance that they will not be concurrent releases (for example - SG CH 5 full does not need multiple languages while the SG Season 1 will).

I think we will get SG CH 5 Full before the end of Feb regardless of when SG Season 1 gets submitted to Steam.

IMO, there is a possibility that the phone, for example, could be delayed for the season 1 submission to Steam and an updated SG CH 5 Full release, including the working phone, would follow via Patreon/SS.

I think we will be feasting inside of two weeks!

I am looking forward to restarting SG once CH 5 Full lands.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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The steam release will the take however long to go through the approval. The only question is whether it'll be leaked between being finished and being for sale.
If it hasn't changed somehow during that time then yes but I'm sure it hasn't

Otherwise I don't even see much logic in it because steam must be the platform where the game has the lowest price. You can't sell a game on steam for €15 and on patreon for €10. That's why I wrote at the same time that the game will only be for tiers higher than €15 since that's the price on steam
I have not seen anything from Ocean saying that SG CH 5 full will be delayed until SG season 1 is submitted to Steam so I think that there is a good chance that they will not be concurrent releases (for example - SG CH 5 full does not need multiple languages while the SG Season 1 will).

I think we will get SG CH 5 Full before the end of Feb regardless of when SG Season 1 gets submitted to Steam.

IMO, there is a possibility that the phone, for example, could be delayed for the season 1 submission to Steam and an updated SG CH 5 Full release, including the working phone, would follow via Patreon/SS.

I think we will be feasting inside of two weeks!

I am looking forward to restarting SG once CH 5 Full lands.

Cheers!! :coffee:

From a businessman's point of view, releasing the final version of SG on Patreon before the release on steam would be financial suicide or just borderline stupid.
 

PaxHadrian17

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From a businessman's point of view, releasing the final version of SG on Patreon before the release on steam would be financial suicide or just borderline stupid.
I would agree with you If the F95 audience and the Steam audience were the same (and I equate Patreon/SS with F95 since it will likely be leaked by a supporter from one of these two entities).

They are Vastly different - with Steam having a Huge audience of people versus those who visit F95 who also support Ocean with $ and those who come to take SG for free.

I am a $ supporter who is also waiting for SG Season 1 to be released on Steam.

Once it is released on Steam, I will be gifting it to friends who have 0 interest in F95 - it's not their kind of place.

I suspect that many of us have friends who fall into this category and some of them will also receive SG as a gift via Steam.

In the end - this is Ocean's call, and I will respect his decision either way.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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I know that the really dark approach (like shooting at the teacher and such things) are gone, but i dont mind it... iam not a player for the really dark approach anyways.

And like chapter 4 was... the "dark" thingy doesnt really work out anyways anymore, so the overall changes are making sense now more and more i guess.
I (and some others) enjoyed the "Dark Approach" it made the MC feel different than the usual MCs we usually get. You didn't have to shoot at the teacher or etc, you chose to do those things. That's why there are choices, to avoid choosing stuff you don't like. Don't like being Dark? don't do dark shit.

I am pretty sure Chapter 4 was done without the "Dark Route" in mind. That's why it is the way it is. He made sure it wouldn't make sense now and is all about going the pansy way.
 

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I (and some others) enjoyed the "Dark Approach" it made the MC feel different than the usual MCs we usually get. You didn't have to shoot at the teacher or etc, you chose to do those things. That's why there are choices, to avoid choosing stuff you don't like. Don't like being Dark? don't do dark shit.

I am pretty sure Chapter 4 was done without the "Dark Route" in mind. That's why it is the way it is. He made sure it wouldn't make sense now and is all about going the pansy way.
Exactly, the plot is different to others games with teens in an university but the best thing was the dark personality. I have always thought it would be better for all of us if Ocean didn´t deleted the dark approach and put different choices for the people don´t want this type of content :(.
But i suppose is very dificult make a game with so much choices and LIs/ends available.
 
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Once the rework finishes looks like i'll be playing again from the start...
.... so I can avoid hooking up with new Mila.

RIP old Mila :cry: (2019-2023)

Guess I'll be sticking with Bella (with a side helping of Cheeto).
my plan exactly, tho I have only played that route anyway so no difference for me :ROFLMAO: But I wouldn't be adverse to see what a Zara route looks like, she's grown on me a lot since the start. But there is barely any content with her yet.
 
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my plan exactly, tho I have only played that route anyway so no difference for me :ROFLMAO: But I wouldn't be adverse to see what a Zara route looks like, she's grown on me a lot since the start. But there is barely any content with her yet.
If the dev is half the sadist I could be, almost every bit of action with Zara will be sabotaged in some way by her sister - accidentally or not. I think they're both actually fairly (physically) attractive, but Zara to me seems like the ideal FWB. She's so aggressively competetive she's like the ultimate "one of the guys" chicks that you get to bang senseless, without making things weird.

At least, until she starts trying to bang Nami to one-up you. :sneaky:
 
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If the dev is half the sadist I could be, almost every bit of action with Zara will be sabotaged in some way by her sister - accidentally or not. I think they're both actually fairly (physically) attractive, but Zara to me seems like the ideal FWB. She's so aggressively competetive she's like the ultimate "one of the guys" chicks that you get to bang senseless, without making things weird.

At least, until she starts trying to bang Nami to one-up you. :sneaky:
we just have to bang Nami then first easy peasy
 

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Season 1 - Last Dev Log
Hello,



So... This is supposed to be the last Dev Log for Season 1.



As always, I've created more renders than first anticipated. My estimation for the rest of Chapter 2 & small parts of Chapter 3 was 900-1000 renders.

I'm sitting comfortably at 1170 renders, and I have one more scene to do.



I started to prepare the work for the gallery. Lots of stuff has to be changed and Chapter 5 has to be added. But that's all gonna go quite smoothly.



I've started work on a little Layla Treat.

Who?

Yeh, some Bibi that hasn't gotten any screen time since Chapter 3, but will play a bigger role in S2.

The Treat isn't finished, and still a work in progress. Still, we all haven't seen her in a while.





I think I'll publish the full Treat with the Chapter 5 Full release.



Tons of previews & comparisons today.

This is the last Preview Log, I will do for Season 1, so I have a few things to show.

Bella boys usually don't see this scene, but I added a little more depth to Hill's short conversation with the MC and exchanged Claire's old model with the new one.

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The old classroom. (Before I could even render the big one.)



The A6000 Ada's in action.



This is a new level, even compared to the previously released Chapter 2 Classroom renders, where I could only render 3-5 people at the same time.

Being able to fill up the college, the city, and other establishments that usually feature a lot of people is gonna be possible now.

I can move away from garbage billboards in the BG, and use interactive people instead. Awesome.

And thanks to the latest Daz update, these gigantic scenes load reasonably fast (15min to 20min).

I mentioned in a previous log that I also reworked the scene with Mila where you can ask her out.

For continuity's sake, I completely reworked her Gym scene too.

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This also includes the shower scene and this legendary render:

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Nami's and Bellchen's gym scenes will stay the way they are. (Except for a few Bella shower renders. Exchanging her pre-sculpt Ch2-3 model with the Chapter 4+ model. It's the first time you see her boobs, so it's important to be accurate to the Ch4+ model.)

There's one scene in Chapter 3 I had to change to keep the music & steam rating. I had to remove MC's PP in one render. (Again, this only affects Season 1. Season 2 won't be censored in any way.)

It disrupted the flow of the scene, but I couldn't locate the old Duf files. So I went out of my way and applied the German saying "Wenn schon, denn schon." which loosely translates to "Do it right or don't do it at all."

So I rebuilt the entire scene and also adjusted 95% of it. The scene didn't really need it, but it was important that she at least visibly "stared" at MC's package.

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There are like 20 renders left for the clothing scene with Bella.

After that one, it's only one small scene that is left. I'll start with postwork tomorrow & I still need to finish the Blender Intro cinematic.

Current estimations are around 1250 still images for the Full.



It's definitely worth playing through the full if you like Bella. Quite a few new scenes with her.



All images in full res are attached below in the zip. file.

- Ocean

Reworking the reworking of the reworking of the reworking of the reworking again, huh?

This would be funny if it weren't tragic for his delusional fanboyz who think that someday this game's storylines will get you somewhere.

This guy's games are the most bombastic failed projects I've ever seen in 7 years of F95 and Patreon funded games. Even worse than Nottravis' Heavy Five.
 
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Reworking the reworking of the reworking of the reworking of the reworking again, huh?

This would be funny if it weren't tragic for his delusional fanboyz who think that someday this game's storylines will get you somewhere.

This guy's games are the most bombastic failed projects I've ever seen in 7 years of F95 and Patreon funded games. Even worse than Nottravis' Heavy Five.
Here we go again ...
 

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Reworking the reworking of the reworking of the reworking of the reworking again, huh?

This would be funny if it weren't tragic for his delusional fanboyz who think that someday this game's storylines will get you somewhere.

This guy's games are the most bombastic failed projects I've ever seen in 7 years of F95 and Patreon funded games. Even worse than Nottravis' Heavy Five.
He could be more creative with the names though. By now we could have something like "Summer's Gone: Remastered Ultimate Edition 4k Version Redux Rework Re-Imagined - Based on and inspired by the original Summer's Gone™"

In all seriousness though, development time never bothered me. I've shat on Ocean because of the game's grammar, dialogue, illogical behavior, creative choices, never ending character model changes, among others but never for update frequency or even story progression pacing.

Every developer nowadays seems to be trending in that direction. Almost all games I follow and support take much longer now to pump out an update than they did 2 or 3 years ago. The only way to change that would be for an overwhelming amount of supporters to stop adhering to the subscription model in favor of a "pay for update" model.
 
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