VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Doomyk]

Decent reasoning ...but most of the LI have a difficult relationship with Nika:

Bella isn't exactly sugar and spice,
Nia had a hidden relationship to Nika, with a difficult past,
Vanessa has a very difficult personality, and a hidden plot (or 20)
Maya has a difficult personality with hidden plots,
and in case we forget...

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She'd best not be related!

The key to my theory is that such characters will not only be complex individuals, but the plot surrounding them will oblige them to hide the relationship. Thus, if the incest patch is removed, there will be no plot holes left. Therefore, I don’t think that Nia, Victoria, Bella, Amber and many others are related to Nika.
Well,not all characters have a difficult personality and not all characters will be related by blood. At best, very distantly. For example, Katerina from Viab. She has a very easy personality, but on the other hand, she and William are cousins. And this is a more gray area. In any case, marriages with cousins are not uncommon, and as far as I know, there is no danger of imbringing.
Well, there are also a lot of red flags with Marla. The accident begins with her, she herself admits that Nika is her problem, there was a hint that Najiko could have known her before. Besides, even without the incest patch, their relationship would still have to be hidden at least due to the slight MILF+teacher taboo. So, yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised if Marla turned out to be Nick's real mother or her possible connection to Summer . The fact that she was shot before the game was reworked would have added some piquancy.

 

[hermit_tr]

Hey guys, where can I download old version of this game - before the rework

list of locations for the compressed version
compressed version

 

[John972]

Okay, I have another little explanation why Sasha may very well be related by blood to Nami and Nika.
The answer,oddly enough, lies in this site.Incest patch.Ocean,although allows such relationships in the plot, but tries to weave it into the plot, make it more realistic and of course show the consequences.Such relationships will always be secretive, and most people will not accept it.Sadly, the *official* version prohibits incest.However,by removing the patch,the viewer may have a lot of questions about why,according to the plot, they are so hidden.Here lies the trick and the author’s solution to the problem. Absolutely all girls who are blood related to MC and are love interests will ALWAYS have a very difficult personality, uncommon difficult past with MC and/or a plot in which the relationship will have to be hidden.
Judge for yourself: Nami has a difficult, unclear past with MC, very jealous and envious.Leia has a difficult past with MC,a dark, cold, jealous mafioso. Katie has a difficult past with MC, a rare bitch, she is just as manipulative as Leia and also has feelings for William in her own twisted masochistic manner. I am sure that with Helen there will be many more turning points, although there were already hints that she is completely another and Leia may still seem like an angel in comparison.
Now take Sasha. A difficult character, the habits of a stalker with hints of a yandere,a princess from a very rich, powerful crime clan. Yes, there is a whole set of red flags that this will be an incredibly difficult path in which they will hide their relationships.It seems to me that the chances that Nami and Sasha are twins, and Nika their younger brother, are quite high. What do you think?

It's also possible that Nika and Sasha share a connected past without them being related in any way. Perhaps some incident from the past.

Then again, maybe Sasha simply recognizes something of herself in Nika - she sees they both suffer from similar psychological trauma linked to past events, with Nika being in a head-space Sasha was once at.

With William in WIAB shaping up to be the AVN GOAT manwhore, sometimes it's hard to think of which SG characters Nika/Nami are NOT related to...

 

[John972]

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but in events, when Nami and Sasha are together, it's literally like they're in a mirror. Literally everything, from the hairstyle to the earring.

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Or for example, when Nika is training with Sasha.Sasha is literally opposite Nami, as if in a mirror.

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They really are like twins.

That kinda depends on how they'd be related - maternal or paternal. If they're maternal, why isn't Nami a Petrova? The only way Nami's current status is possible under that circumstance is if they have the same mother but different fathers (Nami's conception, say, being out of "wedlock"), in which case, they're not twins. Different fathers also seems unlikely if Sasha and Nami are basically the same age.

Also, if Nami and Sasha have the same mother but not the same father, what's the significance of the earrings?

 

[imzahai]

That kinda depends on how they'd be related - maternal or paternal. If they're maternal, why isn't Nami a Petrova? The only way Nami's current status is possible under that circumstance is if they have the same mother but different fathers (Nami's conception, say, being out of "wedlock"), in which case, they're not twins. Different fathers also seems unlikely if Sasha and Nami are basically the same age.

Also, if Nami and Sasha have the same mother but not the same father, what's the significance of the earrings?

or, hear me out;
Sasha's mom or similar person gave Nami the earring when she was little, just like it says in the story...
and Sasha has the other Sided earring.

this may be a case of Occam's razor.

 

[Modanostar9]

Why did I wait so long to try this VN??? It's captivating! Yes, I like B.A.D., Chasing Sunsets, City of Broken Dreamers, and some of the traditional games/VNs like that, but this story is on another level! An amazing visual & emotional story, and the animation is fantastic.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

Such is life

I personally have yet to find a boring scene in SG

This is a game, not real life. He can make things go as quickly/slowly as he wants and can give the MC all the drama/problems he can think of, especially with overwhelming him.

All that D&D stuff or whatever Ch4 was about. I skipped right through it, surprised by how long it dragged. That time could have been used on other stuff, non-role playing wise.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

It would be nice to have a Dev finish one story before starting another, Though. I have supported several on Patreon only to have then ADHD their current story, abandon it, and switch to something shinier. I have reached the point where, if I give a Dev money, it is because I bought their game/update on STEAM. Not hating, just giving my two cents.

Okay - I'll ask...

What prompted you to go find a comment from one particular user posted on August 14, 2023 and respond to it versus Any of the comments made in 2024?

Was it important to respond to a comment more than 6 months old - I mean why not one 9 months old or something from 2022?
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But - let's set aside that for now and respond to your question/comment.

Ocean has said that he creates SG and WIAB concurrently as part of managing his mental health.

F95 has seen Many AVNs die from dev burnout, among other things.

If a creator says that he can better manage his mental health by working on two AVNs at the same time, I will give the dev the benefit of the doubt.

I think Ocean knows what he needs to do to manage his mental health better than anyone else on the planet.

I understand that there are some in this forum that are frustrated that he does this in the same way that there are those who complain about the rework.

If the disappointment/frustration becomes too much, then, for the sake of the mental health of those who feel that way, IMO - it is probably best to take a break from this AVN/Any AVN that creates that level of disappointment/frustration.

Since F95 allows you to try before you buy (Steam/Patreon or SS support) - did you try SG?

What did you like about it?

What, besides the dev's choice about creating two AVNs concurrently, did you dislike about SG?

Cheers!!

 

[panyan]

'Bored' is a blanket word, to be honest, getting bored depends on so many factors and how invested the individuals are in the fanbase. I'll stick to the end till the game gets completed or abandoned. If people are only interested in the fapping playthrough then they chose the wrong game to begin with.

Hats off for your POV, but I do got mine too

 

[BobTheDuck]

or, hear me out;
Sasha's mom or similar person gave Nami the earring when she was little, just like it says in the story...
and Sasha has the other Sided earring.

this may be a case of Occam's razor.

I'm currently going with this, especially seeing Sasha asked about the earring, and Ayua interrupted: if it was from Sasha's mum, Sasha would recognise it from family photos. Also, we assume (and it's highly) likely they are Leia's signature earrings. Nami and Sasha having them suggests Leia is their patron, or godmother, or has singled them out for some reason, not Elena Petrova. It is possible that there is a significance to the earrings in WiaB, that they mean something kind of membership to a group perhaps? All we know is that they exist and they seem synonymous with Leia now. Sedila had the same earrings in WiaB pre-rework though. What if Leia give one to Elena and one to Donna as a token of trust when forming ZPR?

There's just too many possibilities to go with anything other than the simplest though, so you're 100% right. Someone gave Nami the earring, Sasha has one as well, Vanessa knows them by sight ...and that's pretty much all we got. Unproven theories are a fun way to wait for updates though.

 

[yossa999]

What prompted you to go find a comment from one particular user posted on August 14, 2023 and respond to it versus Any of the comments made in 2024?

I remember this Fortune's post bro, it's pinned to the OP so people keep quoting it.
It was pinned after another dev log, where Ocean talked about the cost of ADA video cards, problems with a loan and the purchase of a new workstation, and also said that there were still ~300 renders left and that he was going to redo the scene with Marla and the gun. After that, fear and loathing in Las Vegas the main thread eclipsed even the sun.

 

[White cat6]

That kinda depends on how they'd be related - maternal or paternal. If they're maternal, why isn't Nami a Petrova? The only way Nami's current status is possible under that circumstance is if they have the same mother but different fathers (Nami's conception, say, being out of "wedlock"), in which case, they're not twins. Different fathers also seems unlikely if Sasha and Nami are basically the same age.

Also, if Nami and Sasha have the same mother but not the same father, what's the significance of the earrings?

You're asking the wrong questions. Not why Nami not Petrova, but why Sasha Petrova. They really have the same mother but different fathers, and Nami was conceived in marriage but Sasha was not ))
Unfortunately, to understand it is necessary to accept Summer-Sasha’s version ))

 

[John972]

You're asking the wrong questions. Not why Nami not Petrova, but why Sasha Petrova. They really have the same mother but different fathers, and Nami was conceived in marriage but Sasha was not ))
Unfortunately, to understand it is necessary to accept Summer-Sasha’s version ))

Well, we haven't met Sasha's father yet. Maybe he was a bigger manwhore around Wollust than Willi Zane... [Russkie scoundrel!] That scenario would leave the identity of Nami's mother unresolved...

 

[BobTheDuck]

You're asking the wrong questions. Not why Nami not Petrova, but why Sasha Petrova. They really have the same mother but different fathers, and Nami was conceived in marriage but Sasha was not ))
Unfortunately, to understand it is necessary to accept Summer-Sasha’s version ))

Let's say I accept the possibility of Summer-Sasha so I can understand your idea. Are you saying that Elena is both Nami and Sasha's mother, with Nami being her daughter in marriage with Mr Petrova and Sasha being Mr Petrova's stepdaughter? Or are you saying that Sasha is actually a 'Cyrus', raised as Petrova? I am guessing you mean the second - Sasha and Nami placed in protective situations? In this situation, who was SUmmer's mother that was calling Nika trash? Elena?

 

[AlexFXR]

Last update covers... 1 day. What could possibly happen in a day?

You are right, chapter 5 covers 1 day. This can even be considered progress. Before this, 2 updates at once covered 1 day. I'm talking about chapter 4 and chapter 4.5.

 

[Doomyk]

I wonder if there is a third person who inherited Leia's necklace? Damn, Leia is like a loot boss.

 

[White cat6]

Let's say I accept the possibility of Summer-Sasha so I can understand your idea. Are you saying that Elena is both Nami and Sasha's mother, with Nami being her daughter in marriage with Mr Petrova and Sasha being Mr Petrova's stepdaughter? Or are you saying that Sasha is actually a 'Cyrus', raised as Petrova? I am guessing you mean the second - Sasha and Nami placed in protective situations? In this situation, who was SUmmer's mother that was calling Nika trash? Elena?

No. I assume that they have only one mother - Monica. I'm not entirely sure though. Both girls (Summer and Nami) have a mole above the left corner of their mouth. And in general they are similar. But Monica doesn't have a mole. Miru has it, but I can’t imagine how Miru can be connected with Us. Remember what the game is called? Most likely, Summer was kidnapped and held by the Petrovs under the guise of their daughter. Well, about the garbage. I remember this but haven't found this episode recently. Can you tell me where it is?

 

[John972]

... if it was from Sasha's mum, Sasha would recognise it from family photos.

I think it's simpler than that. Sasha wears one half of an earring set. She doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to suddenly notice someone else wearing the other half of the same set.

The fact that Sasha asks Nami about it is telling. Does that mean she doesn't know the full back story of the earrings either? She could've been slyly fishing to see what Nami knew. However, Sasha doesn't strike me as that kind of person, she's usually very direct.

I think the best we can say is that Sasha and Nami are linked because they were each given one half of an earring set. We don't know who gave the earrings or why. Why is currently anyone's guess and ripe for speculation.

Well, about the garbage. I remember this but haven't found this episode recently. Can you tell me where it is?

Bella/MC in the restaurant (Ch 3 or 3.5). MC sees Elsa for the first time in years and has the ice cream-eating flashback with Summer, Elsa, and himself.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I think it's simpler than that. Sasha wears one half of an earring set. She doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to suddenly notice someone else wearing the other half of the same set.

The fact that Sasha asks Nami about it is telling. Does that mean she doesn't know the full back story of the earrings either? She could've been slyly fishing to see what Nami knew. However, Sasha doesn't strike me as that kind of person, she's usually very direct.

I think the best we can say is that Sasha and Nami are linked because they were each given one half of an earring set. We don't know who gave the earrings or why. Why is currently anyone's guess and ripe for speculation.



Bella/MC in the restaurant (Ch 3 or 3.5). MC sees Elsa for the first time in years and has the ice cream-eating flashback with Summer, Elsa, and himself.

Oh yeah 100% - that goes without saying - of course she recognised it as being part of a pair. The point I was making is about what Sasha knows or suspects. In the case that it was given by someone who was family in that scenario, Sasha would likely recognise it as one of the same pair; rather than 'huh, I wonder if that's the other half to mine?', she'd be wondering 'huh, I wonder if that's where the other half went?' and why. From a stranger it would just be 'huh, I wonder why the stranger gave her and I one?' or wonder if they're even from the same source.

No. I assume that they have only one mother - Monica. I'm not entirely sure though. Both girls (Summer and Nami) have a mole above the left corner of their mouth. And in general they are similar. But Monica doesn't have a mole. Miru has it, but I can’t imagine how Miru can be connected with Us. Remember what the game is called? Most likely, Summer was kidnapped and held by the Petrovs under the guise of their daughter. Well, about the garbage. I remember this but haven't found this episode recently. Can you tell me where it is?

Elena is pretty much a dead ringer for Sasha though, and her model was part of the original in the Relucia scene when Ocean settled on Leia's model (when Ocean started getting seriously good at rendering) and started pushing the current idea of Leia being a boss. I guess we have to see current Elena at the golf/tennis club to be sure, as I doubt we'll see her in WiaB for longer. Do you think then that Leia would have given Summer/Sasha the earring, knowing her business partner kidnapped her?

So I assume you think the aunt is there to control Sasha as well as protect her from men? As Sasha is able to get her to back off in the book club scene, when Nika gets too close.

John found the link before I woke up

 

[White cat6]

О да, 100% - это само собой разумеется - конечно, она признала его частью пары. Я хотел сказать о том, что Саша знает или подозревает. Если бы в этом сценарии его подарил кто-то из членов семьи, Саша, скорее всего, узнал бы в нем члена одной и той же пары; вместо «ага, интересно, это моя вторая половина?», она бы задавалась вопросом: «а, интересно, туда ли ушла вторая половина?» и почему. От незнакомца это было бы просто: «Ага, интересно, почему незнакомец дал нам с ней один?» или задаться вопросом, происходят ли они вообще из одного источника.



Однако Елена в значительной степени является точной копией Саши, и ее модель была частью оригинала в сцене с Релюсией, когда Оушен остановился на модели Леи (когда Оушен начал серьезно преуспевать в рендеринге) и начал продвигать нынешнюю идею о том, что Лея будет боссом. . Думаю, чтобы быть уверенным, нам нужно увидеть нынешнюю Елену в гольф/теннисном клубе, так как я сомневаюсь, что мы увидим ее в WiaB дольше. Думаете ли вы тогда, что Лея отдала бы Саммер/Саше серьгу, зная, что ее деловой партнер похитил ее?

Я так понимаю, вы думаете, что тётя предназначена не только для того, чтобы контролировать Сашу, но и для того, чтобы защищать её от мужчин? Как Саше удается заставить ее отступить на сцене книжного клуба, когда Ника подходит слишком близко.

Джон нашел ссылку еще до того, как я проснулся
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Во-первых, Лето оказалось у Петровых не без ведома Леи. Все это делалось в интересах Леи. Да, сходство Саши с Еленой очевидно, и от версии Лето-Саши я на мгновение отказалась, но потом поняла. Саммер находилась под опекой (Кэти?), и они не могли просто похитить ее. Похищение нужно было узаконить. Видимо, ее решили выдать за дочь Петровых. Мы не знаем, что произошло в хижине, но Саммер, возможно, пострадала сильнее, чем Ники, и ей потребовалась пластическая операция. Во время восстановления лица ее сделали похожей на Елену. Таким образом, Лето исчезло и появилась Саша Петрова.
Ну и об Инессе. Она не столько телохранитель, сколько надзиратель. И она защищает ее от ненужных контактов.