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You can tell him whatever the hell you want, but omgx123 has a point: the story is moving forward too slowly.

I'm not talking about the number of updates Ocean delivers. I'm talking about the fact that the story is narrated in real-time without time skipping since the day Nika & Nami enter ZRP Uni. This is totally insane.

Last update covers... 1 day. What could possibly happen in a day?

This narrative concept can't work for this VN.
Such is life: there are days many things happen (more than you can handle sometimes) and sometimes nothing happens for weeks. So if, at the beginning of university life, you are a bit overwhelmed - because it's all new to you, it is nothing total unreasonable. I think Oceans catching that phase pretty good and I personally have yet to find a boring scene in SG (or WIAB), especially as there is so much going on in the background since the reworks.
 

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Hey guys, where can I download old version of this game - before the rework
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I did a search through this thread a while ago, most of the links are still active. I didn't look for all the 0.5 releases and the early version numbers I'm not sure about - there's at least a 1, 2 and 3 release. I think after 3 the main reworks started.
 
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Old collection of links in post

I did a search through this thread a while ago, most of the links are still active. I didn't look for all the 0.5 releases and the early version numbers I'm not sure about - there's at least a 1, 2 and 3 release. I think after 3 the main reworks started.
Hey man, thanks for trying. Appreciate it.
The game was completed quite a bit before the REMASTERING started right? I saw some screenshots, where we get to see adult summer. The story has progressed quite a bit. I want that game
 

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Hey man, thanks for trying. Appreciate it.
The game was completed quite a bit before the REMASTERING started right? I saw some screenshots, where we get to see adult summer. The story has progressed quite a bit. I want that game
Summer never resurfaced after her disappearance, even in the old SG. What you probadly saw are pictures of the nightmare in the beginning of SG. Summer was way older in the old version.
 

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Hey man, thanks for trying. Appreciate it.
The game was completed quite a bit before the REMASTERING started right? I saw some screenshots, where we get to see adult summer. The story has progressed quite a bit. I want that game
The adult summer you saw was the intro scene, that was the first thing to be reworked I think. Might have been Ch 3. You have to play CH1 or 2 before the rework to see it, and it's basically the same as now, except as adults with creepy smiles and smoking joints.

On the other hand, you can see the edgy dark version that some people like. It's more a curiosity than anything else.
 

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For entertaining comments like this.
The Dev knew if he made him like that, you wouldn't be getting all the sex scenes you want right off the bat. He wanted to make you wait for that shit. Edging the shit out of you with nude scenes, some butt/boobs peek-a-boos, just pushing you to the limit, to rage in the comments about why this game haz no of the secs, as he laughs behind the screen, with a mischievous smile....

If you busted your nuts to the game before a single sex scene, you already lost the game.
 

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I think that Ocean will start to do some time shifts once the world-building is mostly done.

Pure speculation - once the weekend is done - there are a number of ways to approach this:

Short vignettes showing:

Life at Nick's house
Daily schoolwork/time in class
Evening training with the coaches

This can be interspersed with more significant scenes like:

The first party at the new bar
The MC's therapy visits
The MC and Bella working on their project

Depending on who the MC is with (LI), some 'regular' moments can be added in (for example - those on the Bella path):

Working out with Bella in the gym
The MC watching Bella play football
The MC preparing for his Zara competition

College has a rhythm and I believe that Ocean could represent this using more of a weekly set of snapshots.

Does he slow down for the weekends and more activities? I suspect he does.

There are also major activities coming up that will likely be the primary focus/a major focus of a particular release:

The BB scrimmage against the first team
The MC/Amber trip to the cabin to help him get past whatever happened there
The first visit to the Barn - whether the RPG session is fully represented or summarized
Bella's street racing competition

I believe that significant world-building events will be well developed and presented as they have been so far, so in moderate to great detail.

We'll know more once SG season 1 is a lock and the Steam release is submitted.

For the first rev of S2, I am looking forward to the MC and Ayau sparring... this should be good!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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Maybe I'm overthinking this, but in events, when Nami and Sasha are together, it's literally like they're in a mirror. Literally everything, from the hairstyle to the earring.
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Or for example, when Nika is training with Sasha.Sasha is literally opposite Nami, as if in a mirror.
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They really are like twins.
Intriguing isn't it ?

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Okay, I have another little explanation why Sasha may very well be related by blood to Nami and Nika.
The answer,oddly enough, lies in this site.Incest patch.Ocean,although allows such relationships in the plot, but tries to weave it into the plot, make it more realistic and of course show the consequences.Such relationships will always be secretive, and most people will not accept it.Sadly, the *official* version prohibits incest.However,by removing the patch,the viewer may have a lot of questions about why,according to the plot, they are so hidden.Here lies the trick and the author’s solution to the problem. Absolutely all girls who are blood related to MC and are love interests will ALWAYS have a very difficult personality, uncommon difficult past with MC and/or a plot in which the relationship will have to be hidden.
Judge for yourself: Nami has a difficult, unclear past with MC, very jealous and envious.Leia has a difficult past with MC,a dark, cold, jealous mafioso. Katie has a difficult past with MC, a rare bitch, she is just as manipulative as Leia and also has feelings for William in her own twisted masochistic manner. I am sure that with Helen there will be many more turning points, although there were already hints that she is completely another and Leia may still seem like an angel in comparison.
Now take Sasha. A difficult character, the habits of a stalker with hints of a yandere,a princess from a very rich, powerful crime clan. Yes, there is a whole set of red flags that this will be an incredibly difficult path in which they will hide their relationships.It seems to me that the chances that Nami and Sasha are twins, and Nika their younger brother, are quite high. What do you think?
 

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Okay, I have another little explanation why Sasha may very well be related by blood to Nami and Nika.
The answer,oddly enough, lies in this site.Incest patch.Ocean,although allows such relationships in the plot, but tries to weave it into the plot, make it more realistic and of course show the consequences.Such relationships will always be secretive, and most people will not accept it.Sadly, the *official* version prohibits incest.However,by removing the patch,the viewer may have a lot of questions about why,according to the plot, they are so hidden.Here lies the trick and the author’s solution to the problem. Absolutely all girls who are blood related to MC and are love interests will ALWAYS have a very difficult personality, uncommon difficult past with MC and/or a plot in which the relationship will have to be hidden.
Judge for yourself: Nami has a difficult, unclear past with MC, very jealous and envious.Leia has a difficult past with MC,a dark, cold, jealous mafioso. Katie has a difficult past with MC, a rare bitch, she is just as manipulative as Leia and also has feelings for William in her own twisted masochistic manner. I am sure that with Helen there will be many more turning points, although there were already hints that she is completely another and Leia may still seem like an angel in comparison.
Now take Sasha. A difficult character, the habits of a stalker with hints of a yandere,a princess from a very rich, powerful crime clan. Yes, there is a whole set of red flags that this will be an incredibly difficult path in which they will hide their relationships.It seems to me that the chances that Nami and Sasha are twins, and Nika their younger brother, are quite high. What do you think?
Could be. Your theory have head and tail. But Ocean gave us control over Willy in the previous game... It's his fault.. What did he expect... Willy's willy worked overtime and fucked everybody who wasn't on three on the tree...
 

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Okay, I have another little explanation why Sasha may very well be related by blood to Nami and Nika.
The answer,oddly enough, lies in this site.Incest patch.Ocean,although allows such relationships in the plot, but tries to weave it into the plot, make it more realistic and of course show the consequences.Such relationships will always be secretive, and most people will not accept it.Sadly, the *official* version prohibits incest.However,by removing the patch,the viewer may have a lot of questions about why,according to the plot, they are so hidden.Here lies the trick and the author’s solution to the problem. Absolutely all girls who are blood related to MC and are love interests will ALWAYS have a very difficult personality, uncommon difficult past with MC and/or a plot in which the relationship will have to be hidden.
Judge for yourself: Nami has a difficult, unclear past with MC, very jealous and envious.Leia has a difficult past with MC,a dark, cold, jealous mafioso. Katie has a difficult past with MC, a rare bitch, she is just as manipulative as Leia and also has feelings for William in her own twisted masochistic manner. I am sure that with Helen there will be many more turning points, although there were already hints that she is completely another and Leia may still seem like an angel in comparison.
Now take Sasha. A difficult character, the habits of a stalker with hints of a yandere,a princess from a very rich, powerful crime clan. Yes, there is a whole set of red flags that this will be an incredibly difficult path in which they will hide their relationships.It seems to me that the chances that Nami and Sasha are twins, and Nika their younger brother, are quite high. What do you think?
Decent reasoning ...but most of the LI have a difficult relationship with Nika:

Bella isn't exactly sugar and spice,
Nia had a hidden relationship to Nika, with a difficult past,
Vanessa has a very difficult personality, and a hidden plot (or 20)
Maya has a difficult personality with hidden plots,
and in case we forget...

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She'd best not be related! :sneaky:
 
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Decent reasoning ...but most of the LI have a difficult relationship with Nika:

Bella isn't exactly sugar and spice,
Nia had a hidden relationship to Nika, with a difficult past,
Vanessa has a very difficult personality, and a hidden plot (or 20)
Maya has a difficult personality with hidden plots,
and in case we forget...

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She'd best not be related! :sneaky:
The key to my theory is that such characters will not only be complex individuals, but the plot surrounding them will oblige them to hide the relationship. Thus, if the incest patch is removed, there will be no plot holes left. Therefore, I don’t think that Nia, Victoria, Bella, Amber and many others are related to Nika.
Well,not all characters have a difficult personality and not all characters will be related by blood. At best, very distantly. For example, Katerina from Viab. She has a very easy personality, but on the other hand, she and William are cousins. And this is a more gray area. In any case, marriages with cousins are not uncommon, and as far as I know, there is no danger of imbringing.
Well, there are also a lot of red flags with Marla. The accident begins with her, she herself admits that Nika is her problem, there was a hint that Najiko could have known her before. Besides, even without the incest patch, their relationship would still have to be hidden at least due to the slight MILF+teacher taboo. So, yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised if Marla turned out to be Nick's real mother or her possible connection to Summer . The fact that she was shot before the game was reworked would have added some piquancy.
 
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Okay, I have another little explanation why Sasha may very well be related by blood to Nami and Nika.
The answer,oddly enough, lies in this site.Incest patch.Ocean,although allows such relationships in the plot, but tries to weave it into the plot, make it more realistic and of course show the consequences.Such relationships will always be secretive, and most people will not accept it.Sadly, the *official* version prohibits incest.However,by removing the patch,the viewer may have a lot of questions about why,according to the plot, they are so hidden.Here lies the trick and the author’s solution to the problem. Absolutely all girls who are blood related to MC and are love interests will ALWAYS have a very difficult personality, uncommon difficult past with MC and/or a plot in which the relationship will have to be hidden.
Judge for yourself: Nami has a difficult, unclear past with MC, very jealous and envious.Leia has a difficult past with MC,a dark, cold, jealous mafioso. Katie has a difficult past with MC, a rare bitch, she is just as manipulative as Leia and also has feelings for William in her own twisted masochistic manner. I am sure that with Helen there will be many more turning points, although there were already hints that she is completely another and Leia may still seem like an angel in comparison.
Now take Sasha. A difficult character, the habits of a stalker with hints of a yandere,a princess from a very rich, powerful crime clan. Yes, there is a whole set of red flags that this will be an incredibly difficult path in which they will hide their relationships.It seems to me that the chances that Nami and Sasha are twins, and Nika their younger brother, are quite high. What do you think?
It's also possible that Nika and Sasha share a connected past without them being related in any way. Perhaps some incident from the past.

Then again, maybe Sasha simply recognizes something of herself in Nika - she sees they both suffer from similar psychological trauma linked to past events, with Nika being in a head-space Sasha was once at.

With William in WIAB shaping up to be the AVN GOAT manwhore, sometimes it's hard to think of which SG characters Nika/Nami are NOT related to... :);)
 
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Maybe I'm overthinking this, but in events, when Nami and Sasha are together, it's literally like they're in a mirror. Literally everything, from the hairstyle to the earring.
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Or for example, when Nika is training with Sasha.Sasha is literally opposite Nami, as if in a mirror.
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They really are like twins.
That kinda depends on how they'd be related - maternal or paternal. If they're maternal, why isn't Nami a Petrova? The only way Nami's current status is possible under that circumstance is if they have the same mother but different fathers (Nami's conception, say, being out of "wedlock"), in which case, they're not twins. Different fathers also seems unlikely if Sasha and Nami are basically the same age.

Also, if Nami and Sasha have the same mother but not the same father, what's the significance of the earrings?
 
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That kinda depends on how they'd be related - maternal or paternal. If they're maternal, why isn't Nami a Petrova? The only way Nami's current status is possible under that circumstance is if they have the same mother but different fathers (Nami's conception, say, being out of "wedlock"), in which case, they're not twins. Different fathers also seems unlikely if Sasha and Nami are basically the same age.

Also, if Nami and Sasha have the same mother but not the same father, what's the significance of the earrings?
or, hear me out;
Sasha's mom or similar person gave Nami the earring when she was little, just like it says in the story...
and Sasha has the other Sided earring.

this may be a case of Occam's razor.
 

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Such is life

I personally have yet to find a boring scene in SG


This is a game, not real life. He can make things go as quickly/slowly as he wants and can give the MC all the drama/problems he can think of, especially with overwhelming him.

All that D&D stuff or whatever Ch4 was about. I skipped right through it, surprised by how long it dragged. That time could have been used on other stuff, non-role playing wise.
 
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