Ottoeight
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Have you ever thought that they might be right?
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Doomyk
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By the way, Nami from SG and Scarlet from Wiab have a slight similarity in the plot. As we know, Nami played a certain role in the events of the past, has changed quite a lot and is now overprotective towards Nika, to some extent due to guilt. This is where some similarities can be seen in both old Wiab and the new. After the incident with Helen, Scarlet greatly changed her mind about children, and also became very protective of Helen. Which leads to the question, what role did Scarlet play in Helen's event?
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When they hide behind a new account where you can't see their profile then....
No....
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100% story and the artsy images. No mini-games found.
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In comparison to Helen, Mila is skinny, flat chested little girl. Then again every woman is.
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I honestly don't see how this is a valid argument. "Well they're not THAT active and don't let us stalk their profile so that we can bring up their history. How are we supposed to reply to them without going Ad Hominem and attacking the person instead of addressing the points raised?"
I don’t know I just don't think it should matter. much. Sure stopping a discussion in its tracks by calling someone a troll is probably justified sometimes. But it does create a snowball effect.
Don't want to bother engaging someone? Call them a troll. Don't like their argument? "If you don't like the game, just leave, bro". And they'll call you an "Ocean dickrider" back, which then leads to insults being thrown across the room until there's no space for constructive criticism or admiration of the game. All you're left with are the Haters and the Cult of Ocean, because everyone got demonized. Middle ground is important.
I know I'm probably expecting too much from a adult game discussion thread on a porn website, but you can't pretend like there's some gold standard of constructive criticism and then turn around and disregard any made. That they're repeated over and over by new members isn't a valid excuse. Do better.
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I remember,that Bella mentioned racing ranks. And i have a feeling that we have seen №1 from the begining.
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Ah okay, thanks mateat the end of ch 5, before MC calls Bella, if you go the Nami route (kiss Nami at the end of Ch 4.5).
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Funny bro. I thought exactly like this at first but the reality turned out to be a bit different.
You know, some people start arguing just for the sake of arguing. They enjoy it. And there are those who throw tantrums to attract attention. For you, a discussion with such characters will end nasty, even if you adhere to these principles of yours.
And you don't have to call them trolls to become an Ocean's dickrider. Just tell them that you like the way the author writes his stories, or understand why there are delays in the updates. That will be enough.
I almost never used the facepalm reaction. It felt to me as some kind of virtual spitting on a person with whom you disagree. Therefore, at first I began to argue, explain or prove my point of view.
Well, I can only share my experience of it with you. You can't convince anyone of anything on the Internet. But I see exactly two outcomes of these discussions. In rare cases, you will come across an adequate person, you will agree to disagree, change the topic and start laughing together at some meme. But more often than not, your "opponent" will take a mouthful of shit and start spitting at you. I don’t judge anyone's tastes, but personally I don’t like the smell of such a discussion.
So I resorted to facepalming but only for a short period of time. Because I quickly discovered that there are people who collect facepalms. They will bait, provoke and insult you just to get attention. Angry responses are their goal, but facepalms will work too. And according to their logic, when they managed to anger you, drag you into a meaningless argument and get a response, they won.
Sorry bro, but I don't see any middle ground here. With all my due respect to the attention whoring kink, it's not my thing, so I don't want to be neither the receiving end nor the giving end of this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, having ended a day a couple of times in a bad mood after yet another "constructive discussion," I wondered why the hell I was even reading and responding to this. This became especially clear during the release days of the ch5 beta. The unspeakable shit that this thread turned into for a week was simply disgusting to get close.
I completely agree with this one guy who said that even just scrolling through this toxic crap is dangerous for your subconscious mind. At the best, you will be in a bad mood without even understanding where it came from. Don't let strangers on the Internet ruin your mood.
So my advice is: don't look for a middle ground when someone annoys you, just hit the ignore button and move on.
Inb4: For those guys who's gonna say, "good advice, it’s you who write all sorts of annoying crap, so perhaps we’ll use this advice on you and put you on ignore." I'm with you guys wholeheartedly! Most likely our feelings are mutual and this will serve right to the both sides.
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Well said. The big problem is I'm trying not to ghost people IRL, and having a different set of rules for IRL and online is hard to keep straight.Funny bro. I thought exactly like this at first but the reality turned out to be a bit different.
You know, some people start arguing just for the sake of arguing. They enjoy it. And there are those who throw tantrums to attract attention. For you, a discussion with such characters will end nasty, even if you adhere to these principles of yours.
And you don't have to call them trolls to become an Ocean's dickrider. Just tell them that you like the way the author writes his stories, or understand why there are delays in the updates. That will be enough.
I almost never used the facepalm reaction. It felt to me as some kind of virtual spitting on a person with whom you disagree. Therefore, at first I began to argue, explain or prove my point of view.
Well, I can only share my experience of it with you. You can't convince anyone of anything on the Internet. But I see exactly two outcomes of these discussions. In rare cases, you will come across an adequate person, you will agree to disagree, change the topic and start laughing together at some meme. But more often than not, your "opponent" will take a mouthful of shit and start spitting at you. I don’t judge anyone's tastes, but personally I don’t like the smell of such a discussion.
So I resorted to facepalming but only for a short period of time. Because I quickly discovered that there are people who collect facepalms. They will bait, provoke and insult you just to get attention. Angry responses are their goal, but facepalms will work too. And according to their logic, when they managed to anger you, drag you into a meaningless argument and get a response, they won.
Sorry bro, but I don't see any middle ground here. With all my due respect to the attention whoring kink, it's not my thing, so I don't want to be neither the receiving end nor the giving end of this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, having ended a day a couple of times in a bad mood after yet another "constructive discussion," I wondered why the hell I was even reading and responding to this. This became especially clear during the release days of the ch5 beta. The unspeakable shit that this thread turned into for a week was simply disgusting to get close.
I completely agree with this one guy who said that even just scrolling through this toxic crap is dangerous for your subconscious mind. At the best, you will be in a bad mood without even understanding where it came from. Don't let strangers on the Internet ruin your mood.
So my advice is: don't look for a middle ground when someone annoys you, just hit the ignore button and move on.
Inb4: For those guys who's gonna say, "good advice, it’s you who write all sorts of annoying crap, so perhaps we’ll use this advice on you and put you on ignore." I'm with you guys wholeheartedly! Most likely our feelings are mutual and this will serve right to the both sides.
This isn't about ignoring alternate opinions or dismissing people. There's plenty of people posting here who have some level of saltiness or cynicsm that are articulate, logical and clear in their position without being trolls, many of which still like the game enough.
But trolls do exist.
I expect that when CH 5 Final is released, we will get another round of hating by the usual suspects (and their alternate ids).
I have no problem with putting new or relatively old ids with little to no activity on ignore when they act like trolls right out of the gate.
I am always up for a good discussion, but I will not let haters live in my head rent free.
I enjoy Summers Gone and I am unrepentant in this.
Ocean is not perfect, but the man has vision and Summers Gone is good enough that I have replayed more of this AVN than I have replayed any other AVN I've found.
As I write this, I realize that I am humming one of the songs from SG - what can I say?
Cheers!!
I have no problem with putting new or relatively old ids with little to no activity on ignore when they act like trolls right out of the gate.
I am always up for a good discussion, but I will not let haters live in my head rent free.
I enjoy Summers Gone and I am unrepentant in this.
Ocean is not perfect, but the man has vision and Summers Gone is good enough that I have replayed more of this AVN than I have replayed any other AVN I've found.
As I write this, I realize that I am humming one of the songs from SG - what can I say?
Cheers!!
Ottoeight
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But Everybody knows why there are delays.
It's because The Dude keeps on reworking what doesn't need to be reworked.
He needs to realise that when something is "good enough", it's good enough. And since his projects are semiprofessional solo efforts, GOOD ENOUGH IS PLENTY. IT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH.
Everybody is aware of it, and everybody is more than happy with it. Therefore, dude, stop reworking what's good enough and PLEASE MOVE ON.
Oh god, yet another thread ruined by bored people bitching, arguing and wagging their dicks around.
I personally greatly enjoyed this VN that contains probably the hottest looking female NPCs I've seen in a VN (with Bella the hottest), but it leaves me with a few burning questions:
1. dafuq was Bella doing with a dog dick dildo and dog biscuits?! Like Mordin once said: implications are troubling! Does a romance run with a different character answer this question? Was it a gag for someone? Cause her aunt accused her of being a prude like her mother, so buying something like that for personal use seems very out of character.
2. are Bella and MC long-lost siblings? I mean, they have same eyes (shape and colour), there were many times emphasized how alike they are, plus Bella's father has obviously left her mother (so, could've cheated on MC's mother, knocked up Amber, then returned to MC's mother and died together with her)
3. is there any official info on next update?
4. which is better: lewdpatcher or decensor mod?
I personally greatly enjoyed this VN that contains probably the hottest looking female NPCs I've seen in a VN (with Bella the hottest), but it leaves me with a few burning questions:
1. dafuq was Bella doing with a dog dick dildo and dog biscuits?! Like Mordin once said: implications are troubling! Does a romance run with a different character answer this question? Was it a gag for someone? Cause her aunt accused her of being a prude like her mother, so buying something like that for personal use seems very out of character.
2. are Bella and MC long-lost siblings? I mean, they have same eyes (shape and colour), there were many times emphasized how alike they are, plus Bella's father has obviously left her mother (so, could've cheated on MC's mother, knocked up Amber, then returned to MC's mother and died together with her)
3. is there any official info on next update?
4. which is better: lewdpatcher or decensor mod?
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She accidentally bought the "Frequently bought together" items that Amazon puts up on the item you are looking for.