BobTheDuck
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Because it's a reply to something about a pinned post, I guess I'm safely on topic. Whenever the dust settles on yet another round of mod purges, so much context is lost. Things are cleaner, but opinions lose their connections and seem unhinged when no one sees the behaviour they were a reaction or reply to. At the time you made that post, it was handy, like a reasonable adult stepping in the room, and asking the kids to pick up their lego. It didn't work, the mods still had to nuke from orbit, and the internet kept gravitating to the lowest common denominator. As a fragment of discourse, it doesn't make sense, but I think it was worth pinning, because your posts are wonderfully articulate and it's a good reminder that discussion needs to be thoughtful. Striving not to be the lowest common denominator in a disagreement about a story driven AVN is a worthy goal. Conformity isn't the goal, but respect for difference. We all have time to be reasonable; this site is where most people come to waste time, not for the high speed antics.No, it didn't. Darling, you are aware that rules exist here, right? While I understand that everyone has a voice, which is an inevitability of the internet, there are rules here. "Be respectful. Opinions are fine, attacks are not" is literally the first rule for users on F95. It happens that during that time, around Chapter 5's beta release, everyone was attacking Oceans. When I was a regular here, I had countless conversations with other users who had critical opinions on SG, and things turned out fine, so it doesn't have to be like that. The problem, and probably why my post was pinned, was that too many users were rude and disrespectful. My post wasn't a rant or a vent; it was a reminder and somewhat of a callout for those users. I thought it was apparent, but you seem to have missed that, hence the "didn't register with you" comment.
Of course, it seems silly to you... you yourself said that you rarely move past the first page. This is why I don't understand your comment. You're generally not here, so you're ignorant of what happens here. A user wanting to go to the latest page hoping to post their thoughts, opinions, and questions isn't usually looking for an angry mob(the exact situation at the time of my post). Your rebuttal here is basically to not participate in the thread. Ok, for the users that were never interested, done. What about the users that are interested? Are they looking for negativity by clicking the latest page and coming across a barrage of angry comments? What's your suggestion there? Furthermore, there've been countless cleanups here before and after that post. Many posts have been removed, and many users have been banned altogether. Until the next update, you'll be hard-pressed to find the users I referred to.
We're not talking about any of that... you said that Oceans wasn't discouraged and insinuated that he wasn't affected by the users my post referred to when that couldn't have been further from the truth. You say to ignore those users and to accept criticism because it's the price of publishing your creation, but there's a natural limit to what people can handle. There's a difference between constructive criticism and hateful comments. Most of the developers that left this site left because of the latter. I've seen it happen far too often myself, and I'm not even here that much(anymore).
Luv, I get where you're coming from, but few developers are actually like that. I haven't seen many inactive developers in the nearly four years I've been here. I'm a creator myself with my own published projects, so I believe that I have some degree of understanding of where these developers come from. Whether it be to read feedback or to interact with fans... a lot of developers are active here. As a developer, of course, you'll always be the villain in someone's eyes, but there's still a limit to what you can handle. For most devs, that limit is when groups of users gang up on them. At that point, it's hard to "block out that noise." As was the case for Oceans and many other developers. You'll think you have thick skin until you're put in that position.
You and your assumptions... I responded to you because you quoted me. Darling, this is the first time you and I have interacted and the first time you've read any of my posts. You don't know me enough to tell me what I was annoyed by(like what?? Lol). Although your labelling of it as a rant was a bit interesting; what I actually cared about was the fact that you quoted my post and then made several assumptions about me, the post, and why it was a part of the OP despite you knowing little of what goes on in this thread. That's the main thing that annoyed me. Don't lecture me about not reading comments or ignoring users because, up to that point, we all already tried that. You were also making assumptions about the reworks and Oceans, but I honestly don't care that much about that because I'm past the point of arguing someone else's opinion on this game and Oceanlabs.
I'm in a similar boat as you, lol. The only reason I'm here(as in, visiting F95) right now is your quote. Although we got off to a weird start, I hope that your future experiences here are nothing but positiveღ
P.S.: Good luck with your franchise and future projectsღ
PS. It's always good to see your posts!