Ali ibn Hassan

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Considering it only airs one full episode a year, it seems unrealistic to expect +30 episodes. Ocean should reduce the LIs to less than 10. I think this is something that needs to be planned very well, because there could be a lot of unforeseen problems.
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Ali ibn Hassan

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It's not unrealistic, but ambitious. If Ocean continues at the same speed as he is currently, the game will fall behind. Realistically, rendering speed will improve each year as software optimisations occur and he starts developing in blender etc. We don't know how much time OCean spends learning blender while posing and rendering in Daz. Having two rigs allows him to experiment while one machine is rendering. I'd hazard a guess that he is already working on parts than interest him in future chapters, just to visualise things, forward planning.

If he does release 1 chapter a year and it is engaging, I'll play one chapter a year anyway. There's no problem there. But I do expect he'll speed up development as technology improves. With a commercial release he will have to increase speed anyway, otherwise the paying public will forget about it - he can't let them wait too long or he loses any excitement. Steam will be a double edged sword in that regard.
If tech stuff triples the output speed I'll be just 75 for the final chapter.

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So do you think that the popularity of a LI will affect the amount of screen time it gets in the future?
 

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If tech stuff triples the output speed I'll be just 75 for the final chapter.

Happy Summer will not be so lucky
I fully expect a debrief from you after the final installment :coffee: :cool:

So do you think that the popularity of a LI will affect the amount of screen time it gets in the future?
No, that would be like holding a poll on the content. Ocean has already written the content. This means that each LI will have their own unique story that is relevantregardless of screen time. For example, Zara will likely support NIka's matches and show up, maybe get overcompetitive and her dealling with her competitive streak might be part of their romance. I can't imagine Sonya will be allowed to watch games outside of school hours considering how controlling her family is. And if you go milf routes, can you imagine Amber or Stefanie going to games and cheering? Those paths are likely to be clandestine, with all the secrecy they can manage.

I think for example Stefanie's path will likely have less lewdness than Bella or Nia's paths, it'll all be based on the character, and their position within the plot.

Think of things like a quickie with Kate will likely lead to a war with Bella, the paths are also going to clash.

My main enjoyment is the whole concept of the game, the LI's are just a part of that.
 

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I agree with what some said, it is ambitious. However, I'm all for and excited with the number of LIs.

If anything, there are many games where I'm disappointed where my favorite isn't an LI and I have no route with them or ending. So I'd rather have the option for so many unique, great characters, even if it will potentially take longer to complete the overall project.

Even when the remake is completed and we're only moving forward, realistically to finish 25 more chapters on top of the current completed 5, we can expect the series to probably take yeeeaaars to finish, plus there's WIAB...

The only thing I can say is, if you're in it, you'd better be in it for the long haul. I feel it's worth it, and even just Season 1 on it's own is a great story if you aren't a type to be bothered following a series.
 

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Considering it only airs one full episode a year, it seems unrealistic to expect +30 episodes. Ocean should reduce the LIs to less than 10. I think this is something that needs to be planned very well, because there could be a lot of unforeseen problems.
I think that´s a part of the experience, a lot of LI´s with a lot of differents personalities and storys... Yes, Ocean should improve the releases, for example hiring employees,but i don´t know how much money he obtains with this so maybe this isn´t possible :unsure: . I don´t know but what i do know is that nothing is impossible and Ocean knows very well what he is doing.
 

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The sad part of this field is, that it's filled with scammers. Even if Ocean hires a helping hand who knows when will they backstab him? Just recently EvaKiss the dev from ORS was scammed by her long-time hired help.
He's already had that happen a couple of times, but luckily nothing major, mainly people who didn't follow through or deliver I believe. I think he has outsourced some environments, maybe the training field?
 

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He's already had that happen a couple of times, but luckily nothing major, mainly people who didn't follow through or deliver I believe. I think he has outsourced some environments, maybe the training field?
Yeah, I did read in one of his dev logs about outsourcing some of his work and the hired party was not able to deliver it.
 
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The sad part of this field is, that it's filled with scammers. Even if Ocean hires a helping hand who knows when will they backstab him? Just recently EvaKiss the dev from ORS was scammed by her long-time hired help.
Ocean can´t control those things of course, but i think all businessman have to deal with that, you never know who is the person that you hire after he starts working for you. But i don´t think it´s impossible to find good workers out there.
 

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Ocean can´t control those things of course, but i think all businessman have to deal with that, you never know who is the person that you hire after he starts working for you. But i don´t think it´s impossible to find good workers out there.
Oh man, the number of idiots I've hired over the years with fancy bits of paper and the right words...

Just to tell them to fuck off and stop wasting my time 3 days later. Even told one to get lost the day he started :rolleyes: The old saying of you just can't get the staff is as true now as it was 30, 40 years ago, even more so now I'd hesitantly add (even that does piss off all the Millenials and Gen Z'ers or whatever the kids are called these days).
 

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Ocean can´t control those things of course, but i think all businessman have to deal with that, you never know who is the person that you hire after he starts working for you. But i don´t think it´s impossible to find good workers out there.
I agree, as an example there are all the teams of artists that already exist. The real question would be: is Ocean capable of being an administrator who trusts who he hires? or is he unable to delegate by nature and that will bring him more problems than solutions?
 

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Oh man, the number of idiots I've hired over the years with fancy bits of paper and the right words...

Just to tell them to fuck off and stop wasting my time 3 days later. Even told one to get lost the day he started :rolleyes: The old saying of you just can't get the staff is as true now as it was 30, 40 years ago, even more so now I'd hesitantly add (even that does piss off all the Millenials and Gen Z'ers or whatever the kids are called these days).
Really sad to hear that man, Now more than ever our countries need people willing to work, and i always have been very proactive with the idea to give young people good opportunities (they need to earn it too) but when people like you tell that type of storys...Damn. I understand why a businessman would be reticent to hire people nowadays :LOL: , more in this type of working market.

I agree, as an example there are all the teams of artists that already exist. The real question would be: is Ocean capable of being an administrator who trusts who he hires? or is he unable to delegate by nature and that will bring him more problems than solutions?
Yeah, that´s another story :LOL:. Sometimes is very difficult rely in other people the work of your life, or trust them to do the things well, i would understand Ocean if that was the case.But in the end only one person working in the game... Really difficult (i think he is the only one working on it right?)
 

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Oh man, the number of idiots I've hired over the years with fancy bits of paper and the right words...

Just to tell them to fuck off and stop wasting my time 3 days later. Even told one to get lost the day he started :rolleyes: The old saying of you just can't get the staff is as true now as it was 30, 40 years ago, even more so now I'd hesitantly add (even that does piss off all the Millenials and Gen Z'ers or whatever the kids are called these days).
Unfortunately, I think this happens a lot with contract jobs these days. Workers just not delivering...

I saw some articles and there's even a sub reddit about some people working multiple contracts and doing the bare minimum just not to get fired from each or collect a few paychecks and move on to the next one, all while focusing just on one of them as their "main job / contract"... Seems pretty scummy to me, but now with so many people working from home, it's definitely possible in some fields.

As the video game / visual novel field is a very work-from-home friendly field, it's very susceptible I think... (I've had personal experience encountering it once from a team member that did almost nothing for a couple of months before finally getting laid off)
 

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The sad part of this field is, that it's filled with scammers. Even if Ocean hires a helping hand who knows when will they backstab him? Just recently EvaKiss the dev from ORS was scammed by her long-time hired help.
There is no area of activity where there are no scammers. Contracts need to be drawn up for this. In addition to payment, the contract can also specify penalties for work not completed within a certain time. Therefore, only those who do not draw up contracts are stabbed in the back. And they only have themselves to blame for this.
 
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