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I don't want to overstate the matter, but that sounds a lot like the dev actively trying to waste the player's time. I play a lot of games on this site and, on some of them, I have multiple saves. I know I will have multiple saves for this game too. What possible benefit would there be from trying to deliberately obfuscate variables? I would be unhappy if I picked something that seemed right, only for me to have to restart my run. Walkthroughs are optional. I like using them for games with multiple saves so that I don't waste my time. Actively working to counter that seems shitty.
Digging through code isn't what any dev intends a player to do. Making blind choices is how games are intended to be played, and walkthrough mods are provided because some players hate uncertainty. I am certain that you make more consequential choices on a daily basis intuitively, because real life has no walkthrough.

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But maybe that's me, and maybe all the variable just offer flavours of dialogue. We don't know what the variables might trigger in season 5. If the game is interesting enough, you play it without worrying about the time, if not, rage quitting is a thing.
 

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Digging through code isn't what any dev intends a player to do. Making blind choices is how games are intended to be played, and walkthrough mods are provided because some players hate uncertainty. I am certain that you make more consequential choices on a daily basis intuitively, because real life has no walkthrough.

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But maybe that's me, and maybe all the variable just offer flavours of dialogue. We don't know what the variables might trigger in season 5. If the game is interesting enough, you play it without worrying about the time, if not, rage quitting is a thing.
I would like to add two things to the consideration:
Handling decision with unique variables makes coding when they are used a bit of a nightmare, given the amount of variables that can determine something, and more in a game like this where the amount of LI is already a nightmare in itself.
And secondly, many times the variables are set to make the player nervous, or to anticipate what could happen... I remember two right now MHY (they still don't agree if it's horny or hate you, and it's taken several chapters to make any sense) and jealuosy in BaDIK, which still has no real consequences but it's there and can be used at any time...
 

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Another ignore list material
You likely know this particular Kemal Ataturk from the recent past as lolashola, who just a few days ago shed his skin and got himself a shiny new look to keep fooling you reading his brainfarts and waste your time and nerves answering him, in case you haven't added him or his former identity to your ignore list yet.
 
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I do plan on trying a run like that, it's a bit pre-emptive to really do much more than follow the story driven paths because the other paths have no real choices to make right now, and there's no way to guess what all the options will do.

Edit: Hey yossa999 don't be sad, I'm going to be patient for all the variables, so many adventures to choose :)
A sad pathetic fuck is what the MC will become on that path of being an ignorant asshole. :(
Please, don't do this, there are special games for that shit :)

Vic would probably still be the only one his friend (or at least someone who cares about him regardeless anything.) This is how I understand the "semi-dark" path in the current version.

As far as I understand, originally it was assumed that MC would be a dark psycho edgelord without a consciense or regrets on the dark path, he would dominate all these weaklings and will make them his pet toys and slaves.

I think this is why there is still butthurt about the abolition of the dark path.
 

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A sad pathetic fuck is what the MC will become on that path of being an ignorant asshole. :(
Please, don't do this, there are special games for that shit :)

Vic would probably still be the only one his friend (or at least someone who cares about him regardeless anything.) This is how I understand the "semi-dark" path in the current version.

As far as I understand, originally it was assumed that MC would be a dark psycho edgelord without a consciense or regrets on the dark path, he would dominate all these weaklings and will make them his pet toys and slaves.

I think this is why there is still butthurt about the abolition of the dark path.
Oh, I will do it just to see how coach hill, Anna etc get involved. You probably don't have to be an asshole to anyone, just be promiscuious. Like alt the locker scene appears if you don't kiss Bella. I'm not interested in doing it for the roleplay of it, just curious to see all of the story Ocean's written at some point. It's not going to be high on my list of playthroughs though.
 

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You likely know this particular Kemal Ataturk from the recent past as lolashola, who just a few days ago shed his skin and got himself a shiny new look to keep fooling you reading his brainfarts and waste your time and nerves answering him, in case you haven't added him or his former identity to your ignore list yet.
Wow, that moron has even deleted all his posts in this thread. Only a couple of quotes are still there.
My message was crap, looks like the quote system is not able to find a post if the name from the poster has changed.

Anyway, nice catch mate!
 
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A sad pathetic fuck is what the MC will become on that path of being an ignorant asshole. :(
Please, don't do this, there are special games for that shit :)

Vic would probably still be the only one his friend (or at least someone who cares about him regardeless anything.) This is how I understand the "semi-dark" path in the current version.

As far as I understand, originally it was assumed that MC would be a dark psycho edgelord without a consciense or regrets on the dark path, he would dominate all these weaklings and will make them his pet toys and slaves.

I think this is why there is still butthurt about the abolition of the dark path.
Oh, I will do it just to see how coach hill, Anna etc get involved. You probably don't have to be an asshole to anyone, just be promiscuious. Like alt the locker scene appears if you don't kiss Bella. I'm not interested in doing it for the roleplay of it, just curious to see all of the story Ocean's written at some point. It's not going to be high on my list of playthroughs though.
With Ch 4.5, I did try an "Asshole MC" playthrough, just for shits & giggles. That involved simply rejecting and being rude to everyone. Obviously, the game was rather uneventful, i.e. NPCs reacted to the MC's behaviour appropriately

I did notice at the time that acting like a dick too often toward any LI seemed to pretty much kill options with them later in the playthrough. Some options, scenes, and dialogues that appear on a normal playthrough, seemed to disappear on an "Asshole MC" playthrough.
 

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You can play the game and be an arsehole to everyone (that includes rejecting LIs). Guess what? You come away with nothing ('none of this fantasy "every LI (and their mothers) just wants to fuck me" bollocks).
A VN in which (word)choices and consequences define who wants to have sex with the MC, which just makes it realistic enough that it feels like not every women in there just stumbled and fell on MCs dick via accident?
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My message was crap, looks like the quote system is not able to find a post if the name from the poster has changed.

Anyway, nice catch mate!
You can find his messages (at least the ones that haven't been deleted by the moderators or himself) the normal way, just by typing "Kemal Ataturk" into the user name box in the thread search and leaving the search phrase box empty.
You can find all the posts where his existing or deleted posts have been quoted under his former name by someone else by typing "lolashola" into the search box and leaving the user name box empty.
You certainly can, but do you really want to? I mean, you know what you'll find there... :HideThePain:
 

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With Ch 4.5, I did try an "Asshole MC" playthrough, just for shits & giggles. That involved simply rejecting and being rude to everyone. Obviously, the game was rather uneventful, i.e. NPCs reacted to the MC's behaviour appropriately

I did notice at the time that acting like a dick too often toward any LI seemed to pretty much kill options with them later in the playthrough. Some options, scenes, and dialogues that appear on a normal playthrough, seemed to disappear on an "Asshole MC" playthrough.
One of the things I like about this game. An MC, being either a Massive DIK or a Massive CHICK in the SG world, will not have the same success as the one who acts according to the situation, is considerate of other characters, and does not hesitate to use common sense.

Let's take the Zara storyline.
First he teases and annoys her, and then publicly humiliates her. However, he attracts her interest. Now he is not just one of these pathetic weaklings, like Trey, but an arrogant and cocky boor who needs to be put in his place. Then he allows her to take revenge and feel like a winner for a while.

Further, when they meet at Nick's house, through manipulation, teasing and small concessions, he achieves that they become almost friends. And having achieved this, he then constantly maintains a balance, on the one hand, not allowing Zara's dominant nature to take over and spoil their growing friendship, and on the other hand, not going too far and showing that he cares about her and respects her.

It is not surprising that at the end of the fifth chapter she jumps with joy around him when she finds out that he will live in their house for some time. Was it just because of the opportunity to train together? Fuck if I'll buy it. No, that too, it's like a topping in a breadroll, but she's genuinely glad to be in his company and spend time with him.

Would he have achieved such an attitude from her on a purely dark path? I don’t think so, she would still feel insulted and humiliated and would try in every possible way to fight him. But she wouldn’t have accepted a slime from a purely light path either, she would probably have bullied him, if only because she doesn’t respect weaklings.

MC sets boundaries early on, has no qualms about being an asshole when it's needed, but rewards Zara for respecting boundaries and allowing her to play within those boundaries.

This is something that many other games do poorly: they are too straightforward. If they allow the MC to be evil or good, then he is either a complete moron and a sociopath, or he is so sweet, caring and helpful that most girls would puke from such a slime. But female game characters doesn't notice that. Cardboard cunts.
 
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