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I notice there is no Harem tag, how the Hell am I supposed to not go after everyone? I mean I like Bella as Best Girl, but there are so many lovelies!!
Make a save/playthrough for each one, like most simps do. You only mentioned Bella so, have her for your first playthrough.

You'll know if you want to play the game again a bunch of times just to get everyone else. Well, for the MC to get everyone while you just watch him bone all your lovelies.

Ocean dislikes harem styles, so there won't be a harem. If you go full Nika=manwhore chasing every skirt, there is a chance all the girls will dislike him as untrustworthy.

Each path also reveals plot elements that aren't available on other paths, as each girl has a different knowledge of events, so you have to play wisely.

You seem to know everything about Ocean, even answering for him. A loyal dog. Of course he dislikes Harems (for his own game but how about ones he plays?) He wouldn't want you to get every LI or so in one playthrough, he wants you to replay the game multiple times (to up that game time)

If he didn't, he wouldn't have given each path plot elements. Fuck them all. If they will find the MC untrustworthy/unfaithful, then I might do that. I'll "go" after every LI just to see what happens. Will they ignore/avoid me? or what.

I don't think this game has random game overs so, I'd be curious to see how the game would play out if every character hates/dislikes me. Maybe the MC can finish the game solo, doubt Ocean made an ending for that though.
 

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Make a save/playthrough for each one, like most simps do. You only mentioned Bella so, have her for your first playthrough.

You'll know if you want to play the game again a bunch of times just to get everyone else. Well, for the MC to get everyone while you just watch him bone all your lovelies.




You seem to know everything about Ocean, even answering for him. A loyal dog. Of course he dislikes Harems (for his own game but how about ones he plays?) He wouldn't want you to get every LI or so in one playthrough, he wants you to replay the game multiple times (to up that game time)

If he didn't, he wouldn't have given each path plot elements. Fuck them all. If they will find the MC untrustworthy/unfaithful, then I might do that. I'll "go" after every LI just to see what happens. Will they ignore/avoid me? or what.

I don't think this game has random game overs so, I'd be curious to see how the game would play out if every character hates/dislikes me. Maybe the MC can finish the game solo, doubt Ocean made an ending for that though.
Maybe I am a loyal dog, maybe not. I won't send you photographic evidence either way. If someone asks a question, and I have time, why not try to answer?

Ocean hasn't made a solo ending, He'd have to make the first ending, or in fact reach any ending in his development yet. :sneaky:

From what I read when Ocean was on this forum, he did say that there is a path for screwing around. I think the implication is you can go for sowing discord in the bookclub, setting up rivalries stuff like that. Probably not the dark path that was initially being worked on, but something less saccharine than Vic's path, most certainly. I do plan on trying a run like that, it's a bit pre-emptive to really do much more than follow the story driven paths because the other paths have no real choices to make right now, and there's no way to guess what all the options will do.

Edit: Hey yossa999 don't be sad, I'm going to be patient for all the variables, so many adventures to choose :)
 
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Didn't Ocean mention a new intro cinematic that he was going to do if he had time before he uploaded the build to steam? He's probably added it by now if he did something he was happy with.

And, I guess we won't know until it's available on Steam.
Yes, he mentioned that a LONG time ago because of the music license issues, that he would redo the intro cinematic with Blender.
Then he said that if it didn't finish in time for the Steam build, that he would push it as an update after (if I recall correctly).
No news after that, so it might be worth messaging him in the Discord for.
 
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You seem to know everything about Ocean, even answering for him. A loyal dog. Of course he dislikes Harems (for his own game but how about ones he plays?) He wouldn't want you to get every LI or so in one playthrough, he wants you to replay the game multiple times (to up that game time)
Having the intelligence and wherewithal to actually search threads for answers doesn't make anyone a "loyal dog". Here, read the words from the developer himself:

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-full-oceanlab.19856/post-4973096

I don't think this game has random game overs so, I'd be curious to see how the game would play out if every character hates/dislikes me. Maybe the MC can finish the game solo, doubt Ocean made an ending for that though.
You can play the game and be an arsehole to everyone (that includes rejecting LIs). Guess what? You come away with nothing ('none of this fantasy "every LI (and their mothers) just wants to fuck me" bollocks).
 

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Walkthroughts won't help 100% because Ocean tries to disguise the variables so people are forced to make choices.
I don't want to overstate the matter, but that sounds a lot like the dev actively trying to waste the player's time. I play a lot of games on this site and, on some of them, I have multiple saves. I know I will have multiple saves for this game too. What possible benefit would there be from trying to deliberately obfuscate variables? I would be unhappy if I picked something that seemed right, only for me to have to restart my run. Walkthroughs are optional. I like using them for games with multiple saves so that I don't waste my time. Actively working to counter that seems shitty.
 

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Didn't Ocean mention a new intro cinematic that he was going to do if he had time before he uploaded the build to steam? He's probably added it by now if he did something he was happy with.

And, I guess we won't know until it's available on Steam.



Hello,
I'm currently sitting at almost 1500 renders. I thought I could've skipped most of the Mila renders in Chapter 3.5 but well... No.
So I did most of them. I didn't touch the renders in the changing room nor did I touch the ones during the basketball game.
The rework, especially this last part now has been draining me mentally like crazy. That's why I will leave the changing room renders etc. like they are.
I need to move on from the rework for my sanity.
Chapter 2 & Chapter 3 is done and there are only some CH3x5 Mila renders in the queue.
As soon as I can ship the game to Steam to get it completely approved and stuff, I will make a log where I'll note down everything I've changed.
I took yesterday off, not just from developing but from screens in general. That's why this bibi log came out today.
I did put WIAB on a 2-3 week hold to finish up SG Season 1.
I talked about a irl friend in the past who wanted to do my postwork... Well, he's traveling through South America now, and so all the postwork goes to me.
I've already started the postwork & continued to work on the new intro, too.
If the new intro doesn't finish before I'm done with everything, I'm going to release without it. I would then upload it as soon as it's done.

I learned to handle these release weeks quite well in the past. They lasted usually for about a month (Before the reworks parts), but these "Release weeks" have been going on since September.
And it's taking its toll on me.
It's my fault. I should've never given an estimate. And there won't be any more estimates in the future.
Anyway, another ~ 1500 renders for Season 1.

Now it's mostly just postwork & continuing the translation.
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What is unclear in my question? [...]
Well my friend. To be honest, all...


[...] For the stupid, i ask again if there are new scenes with animation?
The stupid one can't deny the fact that you are now talking about two completely different things.

At first, let's take a look at your question:

If the new animation is in the new update?
As we all can see, you are talking about "the new animation" and use "if".
New animation, singular.
The "If" is completely out of place and gives the senseless question even more "less sense"...

Your complete question is now borderline bullshit.

And your insulting explanation is about "new scenes"
Now we have new scenes, plural.

What do you expect from us?
Should we read your thoughts to interpret the meaning of your unclear question?
Or should we dice out what you could possibly want to know?

BobTheDuck assumes even, that you could talk about the intro animation - what also is wrong, if we consider your great explanation.
Well shit, the next one who can't read your mind, shame on us ...
 
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[...] What possible benefit would there be from trying to deliberately obfuscate variables? [...]
Coding decisions into variables, is way better than the borderline stupid way of addition and subtraction from relation points to follow a path for a LI.
Many devs do this nowadays - with increasing numbers, and from their saying it is easier to code.
Like to branch a path in the late game with one/some certain condition(s) from the early/mid game.
Many players have complained in the past that decisions don't matter, that is only the case if the code is done like in the past with simple +/- points, and that way of code a game will for sure soon extinct.


[...] I would be unhappy if I picked something that seemed right, only for me to have to restart my run. [...]
Well, this is only my opinion, but that's exactly the fun of it. Go for a certain decision and deal with the consequences, and should shit hits the fan there's always the possibility of the URM mod. :p
 

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I don't want to overstate the matter, but that sounds a lot like the dev actively trying to waste the player's time. I play a lot of games on this site and, on some of them, I have multiple saves. I know I will have multiple saves for this game too. What possible benefit would there be from trying to deliberately obfuscate variables? I would be unhappy if I picked something that seemed right, only for me to have to restart my run. Walkthroughs are optional. I like using them for games with multiple saves so that I don't waste my time. Actively working to counter that seems shitty.
Digging through code isn't what any dev intends a player to do. Making blind choices is how games are intended to be played, and walkthrough mods are provided because some players hate uncertainty. I am certain that you make more consequential choices on a daily basis intuitively, because real life has no walkthrough.

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But maybe that's me, and maybe all the variable just offer flavours of dialogue. We don't know what the variables might trigger in season 5. If the game is interesting enough, you play it without worrying about the time, if not, rage quitting is a thing.
 

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Digging through code isn't what any dev intends a player to do. Making blind choices is how games are intended to be played, and walkthrough mods are provided because some players hate uncertainty. I am certain that you make more consequential choices on a daily basis intuitively, because real life has no walkthrough.

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But maybe that's me, and maybe all the variable just offer flavours of dialogue. We don't know what the variables might trigger in season 5. If the game is interesting enough, you play it without worrying about the time, if not, rage quitting is a thing.
I would like to add two things to the consideration:
Handling decision with unique variables makes coding when they are used a bit of a nightmare, given the amount of variables that can determine something, and more in a game like this where the amount of LI is already a nightmare in itself.
And secondly, many times the variables are set to make the player nervous, or to anticipate what could happen... I remember two right now MHY (they still don't agree if it's horny or hate you, and it's taken several chapters to make any sense) and jealuosy in BaDIK, which still has no real consequences but it's there and can be used at any time...
 

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Another ignore list material
You likely know this particular Kemal Ataturk from the recent past as lolashola, who just a few days ago shed his skin and got himself a shiny new look to keep fooling you reading his brainfarts and waste your time and nerves answering him, in case you haven't added him or his former identity to your ignore list yet.
 
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yossa999

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I do plan on trying a run like that, it's a bit pre-emptive to really do much more than follow the story driven paths because the other paths have no real choices to make right now, and there's no way to guess what all the options will do.

Edit: Hey yossa999 don't be sad, I'm going to be patient for all the variables, so many adventures to choose :)
A sad pathetic fuck is what the MC will become on that path of being an ignorant asshole. :(
Please, don't do this, there are special games for that shit :)

Vic would probably still be the only one his friend (or at least someone who cares about him regardeless anything.) This is how I understand the "semi-dark" path in the current version.

As far as I understand, originally it was assumed that MC would be a dark psycho edgelord without a consciense or regrets on the dark path, he would dominate all these weaklings and will make them his pet toys and slaves.

I think this is why there is still butthurt about the abolition of the dark path.
 
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