A VN in which (word)choices and consequences define who wants to have sex with the MC, which just makes it realistic enough that it feels like not every women in there just stumbled and fell on MCs dick via accident?...
You can play the game and be an arsehole to everyone (that includes rejecting LIs). Guess what? You come away with nothing ('none of this fantasy "every LI (and their mothers) just wants to fuck me" bollocks).
You can find his messages (at least the ones that haven't been deleted by the moderators or himself) the normal way, just by typing "Kemal Ataturk" into the user name box in the thread search and leaving the search phrase box empty.My message was crap, looks like the quote system is not able to find a post if the name from the poster has changed.
Anyway, nice catch mate!
One of the things I like about this game. An MC, being either a Massive DIK or a Massive CHICK in the SG world, will not have the same success as the one who acts according to the situation, is considerate of other characters, and does not hesitate to use common sense.With Ch 4.5, I did try an "Asshole MC" playthrough, just for shits & giggles. That involved simply rejecting and being rude to everyone. Obviously, the game was rather uneventful, i.e. NPCs reacted to the MC's behaviour appropriately
I did notice at the time that acting like a dick too often toward any LI seemed to pretty much kill options with them later in the playthrough. Some options, scenes, and dialogues that appear on a normal playthrough, seemed to disappear on an "Asshole MC" playthrough.
Yes, to all of the above.One of the things I like about this game. An MC, being either a Massive DIK or a Massive CHICK in the SG world, will not have the same success as the one who acts according to the situation, is considerate of other characters, and does not hesitate to use common sense.
Let's take the Zara storyline.
First he teases and annoys her, and then publicly humiliates her. However, he attracts her interest. Now he is not just one of these pathetic weaklings, like Trey, but an arrogant and cocky boor who needs to be put in his place. Then he allows her to take revenge and feel like a winner for a while.
Further, when they meet at Nick's house, through manipulation, teasing and small concessions, he achieves that they become almost friends. And having achieved this, he then constantly maintains a balance, on the one hand, not allowing Zara's dominant nature to take over and spoil their growing friendship, and on the other hand, not going too far and showing that he cares about her and respects her.
It is not surprising that at the end of the fifth chapter she jumps with joy around him when she finds out that he will live in their house for some time. Was it just because of the opportunity to train together? Fuck if I'll buy it. No, that too, it's like a topping in a breadroll, but she's genuinely glad to be in his company and spend time with him.
Would he have achieved such an attitude from her on a purely dark path? I don’t think so, she would still feel insulted and humiliated and would try in every possible way to fight him. But she wouldn’t have accepted a slime from a purely light path either, she would probably have bullied him, if only because she doesn’t respect weaklings.
MC sets boundaries early on, has no qualms about being an asshole when it's needed, but rewards Zara for respecting boundaries and allowing her to play within those boundaries.
This is something that many other games do poorly: they are too straightforward. If they allow the MC to be evil or good, then he is either a complete moron and a sociopath, or he is so sweet, caring and helpful that most girls would puke from such a slime. But female game characters doesn't notice that. Cardboard cunts.
Thats plays a big part in why i like ocean's avns.he is so sweet, caring and helpful that most girls would puke from such a slime. But female game characters doesn't notice that. Cardboard cunts.
I was never butthurt about the abolition of the dark path but I always thought that MC was at least interesting. The asshole, detached, inappropriate, emo and edgy MC that everyone complained about at the beggining was at the very least incredibly interesting to play as. Whereas the current one is just kinda boring, sad and pathetic. Like an ugly puppy that was abandoned and kicked around too much.I think this is why there is still butthurt about the abolition of the dark path.
I theorized a way back that there are maybe two type of avn players (there are way more types but just for this perspective). Maybe thats a reason why SG is this polarizing (plus no lewds yet of course).Yes, to all of the above.
One of the valuable aspects (for me) of the game's story is the characters actually being different: they have clear likes and dislikes, they have mannerisms, different ways of speaking etc. Some devs writing is good, but everyone has the same mannerisms as the dev. Ocean's clearly though about what motivates each character and how they react to the situations. Some things they'll be indifferent to, other things become a big deal; so the differences in behaviour from some of the girls if you kiss Bella sets them up to be jealous, whereas before you were a nobody. Not knowing what the outcome will be of any decision for several chapters makes me think I should act how I think it most authentic to me.
Having said that, because different characters are distinct, everyone has different pieces of the puzzle. Depending on what path you are on you find out different parts of the back story. I'm wondering if there will be a path for Melanie, and how that will affect things with the current circle of friends Nika's developing. It's not that I want to watch the world burn, I'm just curious to find out all the angles of the story, especially as Ocean loves hiding clues in odd places.
Primarily though, I'll be a responsible Nika, because actions have consequences.
So true. Zara and Nika’s relationship started with them as enemies. The humiliation from losing the basketball game in such fashion and being exposed publicly only pushed their rivalry further. Nika put the seed of doubt in her mind, “how can such a lowlife best me? No one bests me!”One of the things I like about this game. An MC, being either a Massive DIK or a Massive CHICK in the SG world, will not have the same success as the one who acts according to the situation, is considerate of other characters, and does not hesitate to use common sense.
Let's take the Zara storyline.
First he teases and annoys her, and then publicly humiliates her. However, he attracts her interest. Now he is not just one of these pathetic weaklings, like Trey, but an arrogant and cocky boor who needs to be put in his place. Then he allows her to take revenge and feel like a winner for a while.
Further, when they meet at Nick's house, through manipulation, teasing and small concessions, he achieves that they become almost friends. And having achieved this, he then constantly maintains a balance, on the one hand, not allowing Zara's dominant nature to take over and spoil their growing friendship, and on the other hand, not going too far and showing that he cares about her and respects her.
It is not surprising that at the end of the fifth chapter she jumps with joy around him when she finds out that he will live in their house for some time. Was it just because of the opportunity to train together? Fuck if I'll buy it. No, that too, it's like a topping in a breadroll, but she's genuinely glad to be in his company and spend time with him.
Would he have achieved such an attitude from her on a purely dark path? I don’t think so, she would still feel insulted and humiliated and would try in every possible way to fight him. But she wouldn’t have accepted a slime from a purely light path either, she would probably have bullied him, if only because she doesn’t respect weaklings.
MC sets boundaries early on, has no qualms about being an asshole when it's needed, but rewards Zara for respecting boundaries and allowing her to play within those boundaries.
This is something that many other games do poorly: they are too straightforward. If they allow the MC to be evil or good, then he is either a complete moron and a sociopath, or he is so sweet, caring and helpful that most girls would puke from such a slime. But female game characters doesn't notice that. Cardboard cunts.
Well, we had devs who had to wait more than a half year but you sure know it best.it does not take 2 weeks for a game to be approved by Steam, yall being played by Ocean
I like this theory, however Zara has no reason to move out, she enjoys her lavish lifestyle too much. I see two decent reasons though: either moving away from Vanessa (she can be draining) or trying to get closer to Nika since she’s smitten. Or both.By the way, I still think that Zara will become the fourth person in the new house. There was a small hint of this when the dev showed renders in a blender, there was Zara in a completely unfamiliar kitchen.
If we consider that Victory is disabled to a certain degree for a unknown time and she requires help to take care for some personal tasks, then it will be very unlikely for her to move into a apartment with only three *strangers* that could help her if necessary.The fourth person is Vic anyway, iirc.
Unfortunately i never played the old version, so i can´t know if Nika was extremely dark, but reading you guys i can tell he was enough dark. I would like to know how exactly was Nika, but i´m lazy about playing the old version and now is difficult to me look to the old version renders, but if Nika was extremely dark like for example this game where you can rape and fuck dead bodies (i don´t remember the name) i´m not interested, i need something consistent and "original".I was never butthurt about the abolition of the dark path but I always thought that MC was at least interesting. The asshole, detached, inappropriate, emo and edgy MC that everyone complained about at the beggining was at the very least incredibly interesting to play as. Whereas the current one is just kinda boring, sad and pathetic. Like an ugly puppy that was abandoned and kicked around too much.
In the old SG he was not called Nika, that alone adds up to 10000 points of darkness.Unfortunately i never played the old version, so i can´t know if Nika was extremely dark, but reading you guys i can tell he was enough dark. I would like to know how exactly was Nika, but i´m lazy about playing the old version and now is difficult to me look to the old version renders, but if Nika was extremely dark like for example this game where you can rape and fuck dead bodies (i don´t remember the name) i´m not interested, i need something consistent and "original".
This Nika is a little pathetic? I don´t know, i think he is like that because he is depressed and has a trauma, i suppose that is a very importnat influence for him (i can´t be sure, i have never lived an experience like that so i can´t know exactly what behaviour have people with Nika´s problems) but i think Nika isn´t weak or boring, i mean, his responds are creepy enough, and he has always a serious expression even when he is joking so you can´t be sure if he is joking or no at 100% ,i don´t remember almost nothing but i remember Nika knows how to defend himself and even knows how to be the "alpha" in the place, using his intelligence, manipulation skills or whatever he uses.
Anyway this was in the previous update for 5.0 Beta (i didn´t play 5.0 Beta), maybe now his behaviour has change and maybe his behaviour will change in 5.0 full but for now i don´t think Nika is a 100% weak guy.
Mila and Vic have gotten pretty close in their short time at ZPR, they’re always hanging together.If we consider that Victory is disabled to a certain degree for a unknown time and she requires help to take care for some personal tasks, then it will be very unlikely for her to move into a apartment with only three *strangers* that could help her if necessary.
It was bad Don, trust me, and not only cause Nika was different.Unfortunately i never played the old version, so i can´t know if Nika was extremely dark, but reading you guys i can tell he was enough dark. I would like to know how exactly was Nika, but i´m lazy about playing the old version and now is difficult to me look to the old version renders, but if Nika was extremely dark like for example this game where you can rape and fuck dead bodies (i don´t remember the name) i´m not interested, i need something consistent and "original".
This Nika is a little pathetic? I don´t know, i think he is like that because he is depressed and has a trauma, i suppose that is a very importnat influence for him (i can´t be sure, i have never lived an experience like that so i can´t know exactly what behaviour have people with Nika´s problems) but i think Nika isn´t weak or boring, i mean, his responds are creepy enough, and he has always a serious expression even when he is joking so you can´t be sure if he is joking or no at 100% ,i don´t remember almost nothing but i remember Nika knows how to defend himself and even knows how to be the "alpha" in the place, using his intelligence, manipulation skills or whatever he uses.
Anyway this was in the previous update for 5.0 Beta (i didn´t play 5.0 Beta), maybe now his behaviour has change and maybe his behaviour will change in 5.0 full but for now i don´t think Nika is a 100% weak guy.
Victoria seems a very strange option. Maya should look after her at home. Without Maya it will be very difficult for her.I like this theory, however Zara has no reason to move out, she enjoys her lavish lifestyle too much. I see two decent reasons though: either moving away from Vanessa (she can be draining) or trying to get closer to Nika since she’s smitten. Or both.
It’s most likely that Vanessa was simply visiting Nika and the girls in the renders.
The fourth person is Vic anyway, iirc.
Yes, after Zara, this is the most possible option, as for me.I think fourth one is Robin
Yeah right, excuses to keep milking patreons without doing any work