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Speak for yourself buddy.
Let them play, see for themselves and then they can give their own opinion on it.
Just because you feel that way, doesn't mean they will feel the same way. Potentially making them avoid something they'd enjoy/love just because it's something you don't find worth seeing/playing. You aren't thinking about that though.
Why not just now? just play the older version first, then the reworked version. You'll see how the MC went from "fuck off, idgaf, type of vibe to a "I'm a pussy, I follow the pussy, I get told what to do, forced into doing things (just cause? can't say no, leave me alone, fuck off) he's like a pussy whipped bitch, minus the "getting pussy" part.
When it comes to the prank, I too feel like not trusting Robin in the future. I forgave her, but will not forget it.
I had no problems forgiving Nadja since when confronted she clearly had no knowledge that the MC was lured with his sister and also disliked how Robin had pulled the MC in. Zara too was not all that difficult to forgive, she just wanted to mess with the MC, but with Robin it was harder. As said, how she did it makes me trust her near impossible and I theorise that this episode also gave a hint how these 3 girls are personalitywise.
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Robin is a bit... shady or better said a wildcard.
I don't mind to much that she used Namis name to get to the MC, the end justifies the means after all, but there is another scene in which she stands in front of a mirror next to Sasha drying her hair and says something along the line "I don't like lying" and it is implied it meant lying to the MC. And that really got me thinking there is more going on.
So either Robin is a henchman for all girls who need someone to make her hands dirty for them or she is just easily manipulated and used by Sasha, Zara/Nadja and maybe others.
Something's strange here, because it also seems like many girls have aversion of different degrees against the MC.
yeah I got that feeling too where she is easily manipulated since it did seem like she didn't want to be involved in the prank or whatever. Tho using Nami did cross a line for me sure it got the job done but it is also something that shows me I cant trust her, but also the feeling I have that she is easily manipulated along with her crossing the line confirms that I need to keep her at arms length. Which is why I will probably only forgive her on a Zara and a Robin save unless she does something that changes my mind later.
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The problem is that Robin did not use Nami directly. She did not harm her in any way. And she sincerely apologized in the fifth part, she was not forced. Whereas Nadia and Zara physically abused Nika. Zara actually put her foot in his mouth. And in unlike Robin, forgiveness for Nadya and Zara is literally forced upon us, just like future events with Zara. And the player doesn’t even have the opportunity to do the same with them. The best thing is when the player chooses what he likes. I have nothing against Bella’s races, these events will be interesting to watch, but some kind of surfing with Zara... somehow doesn’t interest me.
- Dec 24, 2018
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Out of reactions, yeah I agree about Robin being manipulated, and easily manipulated. Her deference to Sasha is obvious. What if Sasha was the person who told her to target Nami? Would that make Robin more or less culpable? We've seen that Robin has her own issues when she freaks out and Sasha calms her down. I see Robin as someone who can't say no to people, or stand up for herself. Zara and Nadia used her, Nika can decide to, and Sasha uses her multiple times. I think it's also important to remember that it's Sasha who implies maybe Nika did desrve what happened - that implies Sasha had a hand in what went down.
I think people put too much stock in what Robin did - How many days have Nika and Nami had to make friends? Bella maliciously attempts to turn the who uni against Nami as a prank. Sasha gets Robin to use Nami's well being to bypass Nika's spidey senses. Using a close person is not cool at all, but they also don't know Nika's mental health issues. Who has he told by that point? Does Zara, Nadia, Robing or Sasha know Nika has mental health issues?
We see the story from Nika's perspective. To them, he's currently (based on what we know anyway) just some new guy. The way Kate and the twins gossip with the other girls in the toilet, we kinda forget that Nika is just someone studying at their uni, nothing to make him stand out other than fighting Sai. No one has any idea what Nami means to him, other than they look like a cute couple.
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All we know is that only one house remains.Damn RL.
Yeah, exactly this. The only question is whether it is possible that the fourth roommate will be different in different branches. This scene will only happen if you go to the gym with Mila, right? Different fourth roommate on different routes would be great, but probably too difficult to implement.
Although I was told that Robin asked to move in with them somewhere else besides this scene, but I don’t remember that.
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I don't disagree with decision coding being more beneficial than points. That still doesn't explain why he would deliberately try to hide them. It just makes things harder for people. You don't have to look at the variables if you want to be in suspense. Trying to disguise them just seems petty for those wanting to use a walkthrough.
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Sasha for example is very reserved with the MC and also she seems to manipulate Robin doing stuff that is either working against the MC or she just tries to figure him out due to how he reacts.Like who ? Eva ?
Eva seems just like a firecracker, she is not very subtle or manipulative - quite the opposite.
i have to replay that scene again, but I am very sure that in my personal canon playthrough Zara did not put her foot in the MC´s mouth! Might be a variation due to the decisions done before, but I do not remember seeing that. I do not like foot fetish stuff at all, so it would have stuck with me.
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Is understanding how to get a romance going with a certain character something that a dev intends? If I'm making a save for each girl, I'd like to know which choices are relevant without having to trial and error my way through it. My time is more valuable than that and a WT is simply a convenience. Nothing that you're saying justifies why the dev would make it deliberately more difficult to, optionally, streamline their playthrough. Dev's shouldn't get to decide how a player plays their game.
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Actually, yes, understanding how to romance a LI through trial and error is probably what most devs intend, otherwise they'd simply scrap choices altogether. In most AVN's these are almost the only choices you CAN make. It is also up to the dev how you play the game, they are completely responsible for the playability of it and the logic of their product.
The convenience aspect would be like a player demanding that a soulslike should have one hit kills for the bosses, or a godlike debug mode as standard. Either you play to the dev's logic for their game if it's enjoyable or you don't. The dev doesn't have to make the code compliant for any player. If the dev decides on a walkthrough, you're in luck, if they want to keep things hidden, it's completely their choice.
I'm sure you can depend on the AVN community to provide walkthroughs at some point, but my opinion is the dev can make their decisions based on how they want people to engage the story they came up with - I see that as the default position, and any provided walkthroughs as a bonus. Especially during development, where tags in the code could reveal major plot points that aren't yet present in the game.
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My God, for 20 pages they talk about nothing, sick people!
- Jan 17, 2021
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Could be a good aproach to the season 1, but i prefer to play first the rework, i don´t remember much about what happens in SG, just the depression of Mc for the dissapearance of Summer. I have forgotten many characters, interactions and second dramas, so if i play the old version i won´t be so surprised with the season 1 because i will be fresh (speaking about the plot and characters, of course the renders in season 1 will be better).
But i will play it sometime for sure, i want to know how was the Mc by myself. Even if i know thanks to people here how he was.
I kinda want to keep the original versions of chapters 3-4.5 to replay eventually, just for the music that was lost!
- Jan 17, 2021
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Yeah... Good choice, i will keep that version too if my computer memory allow it... I need to delete some games and stuff i don´t use.
The reason for trying the "Asshole MC" playthrough - and it was a skipped playthrough - was to test Ocean's insistence that the MC's attitude and behavior toward others will have consequences, affect his relationships, and affect the information he learns.Yes, to all of the above.
One of the valuable aspects (for me) of the game's story is the characters actually being different: they have clear likes and dislikes, they have mannerisms, different ways of speaking etc. Some devs writing is good, but everyone has the same mannerisms as the dev. Ocean's clearly though about what motivates each character and how they react to the situations. Some things they'll be indifferent to, other things become a big deal; so the differences in behaviour from some of the girls if you kiss Bella sets them up to be jealous, whereas before you were a nobody. Not knowing what the outcome will be of any decision for several chapters makes me think I should act how I think it most authentic to me.
Having said that, because different characters are distinct, everyone has different pieces of the puzzle. Depending on what path you are on you find out different parts of the back story. I'm wondering if there will be a path for Melanie, and how that will affect things with the current circle of friends Nika's developing. It's not that I want to watch the world burn, I'm just curious to find out all the angles of the story, especially as Ocean loves hiding clues in odd places.
Primarily though, I'll be a responsible Nika, because actions have consequences.
So far, Bella, Nami, and possibly Mila are the only LIs where the MC's behavior toward them seems to cut off future romance by the end of Ch 5 Beta. By bad behavior, I mean being snarly or closeted with them all the time and rejecting any advances (NOTE - any consequences of the MC agreeing to dates while acting like an asshole won't be known until Season 2 and beyond).
With characters like Zara, Nadia, Nia, Sasha, and Sonya, it's just too early to say.
Victoria is the wildcard. She has a VERY high tolerance to the MC being indifferent and rejecting her advances.
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I´m one of those guys that want to have at least one path being an asshole. I like the creepy Nika so i´m going to exploit this behaviour, but of course being "normal", i´m not going to be a total asshole in all the situations, just in some situations where i find it would be the normal answer from Nika.
I still thinking the most inmersive aproach is to be a creepy guy in the whole first season, with exceptions , for example when Bella open her heart to you it would be normal to be more sensitive.
And after the therapy with Amber then start to be more open with people and start the recuperation of a healthy behaviour step by step. I don´t see realistic try to be super good guy in the first episode, but this is just how i see things, play how you guys want of course