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One question, I've never played SG because a friend of mine recommended I wait for the full version, but I've already had some spoilers and as I'm curious I learned from inside that Adriana is Miru and Willian's daughter, is that true?
That's up to you. The full version might take a lil while (maybe a month, i guess).
And we don't know who's Adrianas's parents are
 

yossa999

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Robin is already looking for roommates, so there is a higher chance that she will become MC's roommate. :unsure:
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Yeah, exactly this. The only question is whether it is possible that the fourth roommate will be different in different branches. This scene will only happen if you go to the gym with Mila, right? Different fourth roommate on different routes would be great, but probably too difficult to implement.
Although I was told that Robin asked to move in with them somewhere else besides this scene, but I don’t remember that.
 

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even though I wouldn't in your place

Nothing worth seeing honestly
Speak for yourself buddy.

Let them play, see for themselves and then they can give their own opinion on it.

Just because you feel that way, doesn't mean they will feel the same way. Potentially making them avoid something they'd enjoy/love just because it's something you don't find worth seeing/playing. You aren't thinking about that though.

I will need to play the old version someday, that´s for sure... But later
Why not just now? just play the older version first, then the reworked version. You'll see how the MC went from "fuck off, idgaf, type of vibe to a "I'm a pussy, I follow the pussy, I get told what to do, forced into doing things (just cause? can't say no, leave me alone, fuck off) he's like a pussy whipped bitch, minus the "getting pussy" part.
 
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I know it wasnt her idea to do the prank but it was her idea to use Nami they didn't tell her to use Nami to lure the MC just to get him alone. That's why I dont think I would be able to trust her fully since if she crossed a line on a harmless prank, makes me wonder if it was something more serious how far would she go. Maybe she could win back my trust over time but until then dont think I can forgive her even if she feels bad and is actually a sweet girl. I dont like Zara either cause of the prank but I dislike Robin more for the way she executed it. Zara I can forgive easier since she was just was wanting to fuck with us even if it was still messed up. Only one from the prank I can forgive atm is Nadia because with her weird thing with banana's I feel like a real piece of shit if I'm not nice to her.

Again probably should forgive her but she just rubbed me the wrong way I admit my lack of trust for her is irrational but it is what it is.
When it comes to the prank, I too feel like not trusting Robin in the future. I forgave her, but will not forget it.
I had no problems forgiving Nadja since when confronted she clearly had no knowledge that the MC was lured with his sister and also disliked how Robin had pulled the MC in. Zara too was not all that difficult to forgive, she just wanted to mess with the MC, but with Robin it was harder. As said, how she did it makes me trust her near impossible and I theorise that this episode also gave a hint how these 3 girls are personalitywise.
 

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I know it wasnt her idea to do the prank but it was her idea to use Nami they didn't tell her to use Nami to lure the MC just to get him alone. That's why I dont think I would be able to trust her fully since if she crossed a line on a harmless prank, makes me wonder if it was something more serious how far would she go. Maybe she could win back my trust over time but until then dont think I can forgive her even if she feels bad and is actually a sweet girl. I dont like Zara either cause of the prank but I dislike Robin more for the way she executed it. Zara I can forgive easier since she was just was wanting to fuck with us even if it was still messed up. Only one from the prank I can forgive atm is Nadia because with her weird thing with banana's I feel like a real piece of shit if I'm not nice to her.

Again probably should forgive her but she just rubbed me the wrong way I admit my lack of trust for her is irrational but it is what it is.
Robin is a bit... shady or better said a wildcard.
I don't mind to much that she used Namis name to get to the MC, the end justifies the means after all, but there is another scene in which she stands in front of a mirror next to Sasha drying her hair and says something along the line "I don't like lying" and it is implied it meant lying to the MC. And that really got me thinking there is more going on.
So either Robin is a henchman for all girls who need someone to make her hands dirty for them or she is just easily manipulated and used by Sasha, Zara/Nadja and maybe others.
Something's strange here, because it also seems like many girls have aversion of different degrees against the MC.
 

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Robin is a bit... shady or better said a wildcard.
I don't mind to much that she used Namis name to get to the MC, the end justifies the means after all, but there is another scene in which she stands in front of a mirror next to Sasha drying her hair and says something along the line "I don't like lying" and it is implied it meant lying to the MC. And that really got me thinking there is more going on.
So either Robin is a henchman for all girls who need someone to make her hands dirty for them or she is just easily manipulated and used by Sasha, Zara/Nadja and maybe others.
Something's strange here, because it also seems like many girls have aversion of different degrees against the MC.
yeah I got that feeling too where she is easily manipulated since it did seem like she didn't want to be involved in the prank or whatever. Tho using Nami did cross a line for me sure it got the job done but it is also something that shows me I cant trust her, but also the feeling I have that she is easily manipulated along with her crossing the line confirms that I need to keep her at arms length. Which is why I will probably only forgive her on a Zara and a Robin save unless she does something that changes my mind later.
 

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I don't mind to much that she used Namis name to get to the MC, the end justifies the means after all, but there is another
Something's strange here, because it also seems like many girls have aversion of different degrees against the MC.
Like who ? Eva ? :unsure:
 

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yeah I got that feeling too where she is easily manipulated since it did seem like she didn't want to be involved in the prank or whatever. Tho using Nami did cross a line for me sure it got the job done but it is also something that shows me I cant trust her, but also the feeling I have that she is easily manipulated along with her crossing the line confirms that I need to keep her at arms length. Which is why I will probably only forgive her on a Zara and a Robin save unless she does something that changes my mind later.
The problem is that Robin did not use Nami directly. She did not harm her in any way. And she sincerely apologized in the fifth part, she was not forced. Whereas Nadia and Zara physically abused Nika. Zara actually put her foot in his mouth. And in unlike Robin, forgiveness for Nadya and Zara is literally forced upon us, just like future events with Zara. And the player doesn’t even have the opportunity to do the same with them. The best thing is when the player chooses what he likes. I have nothing against Bella’s races, these events will be interesting to watch, but some kind of surfing with Zara... somehow doesn’t interest me.
 
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Robin is a bit... shady or better said a wildcard.
I don't mind to much that she used Namis name to get to the MC, the end justifies the means after all, but there is another scene in which she stands in front of a mirror next to Sasha drying her hair and says something along the line "I don't like lying" and it is implied it meant lying to the MC. And that really got me thinking there is more going on.
So either Robin is a henchman for all girls who need someone to make her hands dirty for them or she is just easily manipulated and used by Sasha, Zara/Nadja and maybe others.
Something's strange here, because it also seems like many girls have aversion of different degrees against the MC.
yeah I got that feeling too where she is easily manipulated since it did seem like she didn't want to be involved in the prank or whatever. Tho using Nami did cross a line for me sure it got the job done but it is also something that shows me I cant trust her, but also the feeling I have that she is easily manipulated along with her crossing the line confirms that I need to keep her at arms length. Which is why I will probably only forgive her on a Zara and a Robin save unless she does something that changes my mind later.
Out of reactions, yeah I agree about Robin being manipulated, and easily manipulated. Her deference to Sasha is obvious. What if Sasha was the person who told her to target Nami? Would that make Robin more or less culpable? We've seen that Robin has her own issues when she freaks out and Sasha calms her down. I see Robin as someone who can't say no to people, or stand up for herself. Zara and Nadia used her, Nika can decide to, and Sasha uses her multiple times. I think it's also important to remember that it's Sasha who implies maybe Nika did desrve what happened - that implies Sasha had a hand in what went down.

I think people put too much stock in what Robin did - How many days have Nika and Nami had to make friends? Bella maliciously attempts to turn the who uni against Nami as a prank. Sasha gets Robin to use Nami's well being to bypass Nika's spidey senses. Using a close person is not cool at all, but they also don't know Nika's mental health issues. Who has he told by that point? Does Zara, Nadia, Robing or Sasha know Nika has mental health issues?

We see the story from Nika's perspective. To them, he's currently (based on what we know anyway) just some new guy. The way Kate and the twins gossip with the other girls in the toilet, we kinda forget that Nika is just someone studying at their uni, nothing to make him stand out other than fighting Sai. No one has any idea what Nami means to him, other than they look like a cute couple.
 
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Yeah, exactly this. The only question is whether it is possible that the fourth roommate will be different in different branches. This scene will only happen if you go to the gym with Mila, right? Different fourth roommate on different routes would be great, but probably too difficult to implement.
Although I was told that Robin asked to move in with them somewhere else besides this scene, but I don’t remember that.
All we know is that only one house remains. screenshot0001.png
 
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Coding decisions into variables, is way better than the borderline stupid way of addition and subtraction from relation points to follow a path for a LI.
I don't disagree with decision coding being more beneficial than points. That still doesn't explain why he would deliberately try to hide them. It just makes things harder for people. You don't have to look at the variables if you want to be in suspense. Trying to disguise them just seems petty for those wanting to use a walkthrough.
 

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Like who ? Eva ? :unsure:
Sasha for example is very reserved with the MC and also she seems to manipulate Robin doing stuff that is either working against the MC or she just tries to figure him out due to how he reacts.
Eva seems just like a firecracker, she is not very subtle or manipulative - quite the opposite.
 

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The problem is that Robin did not use Nami directly. She did not harm her in any way. And she sincerely apologized in the fifth part, she was not forced. Whereas Nadia and Zara physically abused Nika. Zara actually put her foot in his mouth.
i have to replay that scene again, but I am very sure that in my personal canon playthrough Zara did not put her foot in the MC´s mouth! Might be a variation due to the decisions done before, but I do not remember seeing that. I do not like foot fetish stuff at all, so it would have stuck with me.
 

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Digging through code isn't what any dev intends a player to do. Making blind choices is how games are intended to be played, and walkthrough mods are provided because some players hate uncertainty. I am certain that you make more consequential choices on a daily basis intuitively, because real life has no walkthrough.

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But maybe that's me, and maybe all the variable just offer flavours of dialogue. We don't know what the variables might trigger in season 5. If the game is interesting enough, you play it without worrying about the time, if not, rage quitting is a thing.
Is understanding how to get a romance going with a certain character something that a dev intends? If I'm making a save for each girl, I'd like to know which choices are relevant without having to trial and error my way through it. My time is more valuable than that and a WT is simply a convenience. Nothing that you're saying justifies why the dev would make it deliberately more difficult to, optionally, streamline their playthrough. Dev's shouldn't get to decide how a player plays their game.
 

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Is understanding how to get a romance going with a certain character something that a dev intends? If I'm making a save for each girl, I'd like to know which choices are relevant without having to trial and error my way through it. My time is more valuable than that and a WT is simply a convenience. Nothing that you're saying justifies why the dev would make it deliberately more difficult to, optionally, streamline their playthrough. Dev's shouldn't get to decide how a player plays their game.
Actually, yes, understanding how to romance a LI through trial and error is probably what most devs intend, otherwise they'd simply scrap choices altogether. In most AVN's these are almost the only choices you CAN make. It is also up to the dev how you play the game, they are completely responsible for the playability of it and the logic of their product.

The convenience aspect would be like a player demanding that a soulslike should have one hit kills for the bosses, or a godlike debug mode as standard. Either you play to the dev's logic for their game if it's enjoyable or you don't. The dev doesn't have to make the code compliant for any player. If the dev decides on a walkthrough, you're in luck, if they want to keep things hidden, it's completely their choice.

I'm sure you can depend on the AVN community to provide walkthroughs at some point, but my opinion is the dev can make their decisions based on how they want people to engage the story they came up with - I see that as the default position, and any provided walkthroughs as a bonus. Especially during development, where tags in the code could reveal major plot points that aren't yet present in the game.
 
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