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PaxHadrian17

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I understand, but when you dream you always dream of your own means, when that dream involves risking other people's means, you have to be a bit more realistic. OF is an option for devs, but it is an expensive option, it has the advantage that it is reliable in every sense, people are not afraid to leave their data in OF, as they seem to be for SS.

And maybe, if a dev (wink wink) takes a risk and gets good results, it's the next place to go.
As I said - I've not checked out OF so... I have no idea how expensive/inexpensive carving out a niche on OF would be.

It would ultimately be just like any other investment - can OF, as a business, justify the expense for a rate of return that is equal to or greater than other investment opportunities?

If that is not the case now, what is the tipping point?

What can they 'charge' devs and visitors (if we go with the portal idea) where they can get the needed ROI and still provide the devs with a new home where costs are = or < than those of Patreon, for example.

I simply used OF as an example given that they have existing infrastructure and digital security.


Again, this was more a case of 'back of the napkin' musings in a bar versus a group proposal to develop a business case for one's final project prior to earning an MBA.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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So no news from discord ? ( Do not start a f-in fight over my damn question )

To the guy that updates us on what Ocean says in Discord, thank you you're a hero in my book.
I've only got public access - I can't see the patreon only channels. Nothing there but people arguing if Marla or Damian are actually Summer in disguise to annoy the people reviving the Summer is Sasha theory. Nothing piblic from Ocean, still waiting for Steam's response.

So basically the same as here, everyone's just hanging around waiting and coming up with theories.
 

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What happens if Steam rejects SG?

A couple of months delay as Ocean reworks it again or does he throw his hands up in the air and give up?

It's been what 8 or nine working days so far?
 

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What happens if Steam rejects SG?

A couple of months delay as Ocean reworks it again or does he throw his hands up in the air and give up?

It's been what 8 or nine working days so far?
The worst thing that can happen is that they classify SG as +18 only adults content, which can't happen because there is no penetration. So a "bad" news would be +18, so it could not offer it in all countries and Epic would be in suspense, GoG is similar to Steam so it could also launch it there with restriction of countries.
 

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What happens if Steam rejects SG?

A couple of months delay as Ocean reworks it again or does he throw his hands up in the air and give up?

It's been what 8 or nine working days so far?
Any rework only happens after they reply. I don't think Ocean is thinking towards that, he's second guessed everything he can. The review is not in essence whether it can go on steam because other AVN's with lewds are already there, but whether or not it is able to be rated PEGI 16 or whether it needs to be adult. I honestly can't think of anything they wouldn't allow now it's been sanitised by Ocean, it's simply that the game is huge, and a reviewer has to check the dialogue as well I guess, looking for any adult concepts that go beyond the 16 rating. I don't think there is anything, but we'll see.

The automated check probably noticed DAZ models and boobs, so the reviewers probably have to check there's no genital shots hidden in the game anywhere - adult by association with all other DAZ modelled games maybe?

He'll still be able to release on Gog, Epic might also still release, their reviewers are their own.

Right now it is the waiting game.
 

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Any rework only happens after they reply. I don't think Ocean is thinking towards that, he's second guessed everything he can. The review is not in essence whether it can go on steam because other AVN's with lewds are already there, but whether or not it is able to be rated PEGI 16 or whether it needs to be adult. I honestly can't think of anything they wouldn't allow now it's been sanitised by Ocean, it's simply that the game is huge, and a reviewer has to check the dialogue as well I guess, looking for any adult concepts that go beyond the 16 rating. I don't think there is anything, but we'll see.

The automated check probably noticed DAZ models and boobs, so the reviewers probably have to check there's no genital shots hidden in the game anywhere - adult by association with all other DAZ modelled games maybe?

He'll still be able to release on Gog, Epic might also still release, their reviewers are their own.

Right now it is the waiting game.
As I understand it, after failing the automatic check, there were already modifications and a new build which is the one being analysed by a person.
 

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As I understand it, after failing the automatic check, there were already modifications and a new build which is the one being analysed by a person.
Failing the automated check could be anything about non compliance to the steam platform though, like the issues Ocean mentione dwith the Steam Deck.

You'd know more about mods regards content, but I imagine Ocean's not going to say what changes he has to make until after it's all done. Too much drama having people's opinions on how to implement any required changed I guess.

I still think he's made it safe enough that it's more likely technicalities or little things that are easy to redo.
 
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Failing the automated check could be anything about non compliance to the steam platform though, like the issues Ocean mentione dwith the Steam Deck.

You'd know more about mods regards content, but I imagine Ocean's not going to say what changes he has to make until after it's all done. Too much drama having people's opinions on how to implement any required changed I guess.

I still think he's made it safe enough that it's more likely technicalities or little things that are easy to redo.
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The worst thing that can happen is that they classify SG as +18 only adults content, which can't happen because there is no penetration. So a "bad" news would be +18, so it could not offer it in all countries and Epic would be in suspense, GoG is similar to Steam so it could also launch it there with restriction of countries.
But this game is going to have 2 versions? because it has already removed the nude renders of victoria for the steam version, will it be a "ligh" game until the end or will it simply accept to be +18 from the following seasons?
 

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But this game is going to have 2 versions? because it has already removed the nude renders of victoria for the steam version, will it be a "ligh" game until the end or will it simply accept to be +18 from the following seasons?
The plan is for the first season to be 16+ and all following seasons 18+. There will be a patreon version of the first season with one scene changed for steam, but it's nothing lewd really - just a change to Nami at the lake.
 
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The plan is for the first season to be 16+ and all following seasons 18+. There will be a patreon version of the first season with one scene changed for steam, but it's nothing lewd really - just a change to Nami at the lake.
So for the patreon version the nude victoria in the bathroom is not coming back either?
 

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So for the patreon version the nude victoria in the bathroom is not coming back either?
If you think about Victorya's visible primary genitals, then no.

I was not on this Vic's path, so I can't remember how many renders are there with a free sight to her genitals, but afar Ocean said they are all gone or so reworked that there is nothing to see anymore.

The goal is still a PEGI 16+ on steam.

I don't know how Ocean will handle this, there will be the steam version without Nami topless at the lake and the patreon/SS version that contains it.

/e

Well, we have to wait and see:

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