up to you but personally I rarely judge something by word of mouth without trying it for myself. As I do find sometimes when people are angry about something especially on a video game they blow things out of proportion. I'm willing to bet any of the dialogue changes arent going to be a big deal to me as I doubt he changed the entire script. But hey that's just me. Lewd scenes changes are a non issue for me as well.Man this is sad to watch. He censored the Steam Version into oblivion. If the Patreon version is mostly the same as this version like it was mentioned i doubt any mod can really "fix" it. just another game to unwatch and move on then.
basically the self censorship he attempted to do for a rating for steam. However we knew about that already. Tho their appears there is dialogue changes as well ive yet to play it myself. That is something I dont think was ever mentioned before.So why is everyone complaining about the new update? Give me a run down cause I haven't download or tried the new version yet.
No nudity? In the Steam version we still get a shot of Bella naked in the tub, MC groping Mila's bare ass while making out and Bella sleeping topless more than once, plus new renders and re-worked lines and new dialogues.It's kind of ironic how he refuses to progress with the storyline, and now he releases a new version with no nudity. Kind of sad, really.
Yeah that's pretty lame. Adult Game with Adult Themes and while I know that he wants to take time with Sex Scenes, lowering NUDITY, of all things, is definitely going to kill your game.I see it like this, it took 5 years to finish Season 1, in my opinion Ocean shot itself in the foot by releasing the censored version (version without most of the nude scenes) on Steam, people are unhappy precisely because of this. After years of waiting, little news, no nudity and no sex hahaha.
I mean to be fair it does say there is no sex in Season 1 when you launch the game so I never expected alot of nudity anyhow. so censoring some nudity I don't see as a big deal personally if rating was a goal of his. Be different if he censored a sex scene to me or got rid all the nudity as there is still some. But im also one of those people that would pay for an AVN for just the characters or story without a care if there is lewds or not as they arent important to me. What is a bigger issue for me apparently some of the dialogue changes I heard about ill have to wait till I play it to judge it for myself.Yeah that's pretty lame. Adult Game with Adult Themes and while I know that he wants to take time with Sex Scenes, lowering NUDITY, of all things, is definitely going to kill your game.
There's plenty of Adult Games with Sex and Nudity in it on Steam so I dunno why he's trying to play hard ball with the "Ratings". Maybe it's better advertisement it's more SFW but still; it's like you're trying to juggle 2 of the opposite things.
Either you hook in the Sex lovers, who will buy the game for the Good Renders + Sex, or you try to hook in the SFW Adult Readers with Good Renders but NO Sex.
I don't think I've ever seen a large chunk of honest to God Steam Gamers that go on Steam, of all places, let alone to pay for an Adult Game just to see little Nudity and no Sex, regardless of how good the Story or Characters are.
Supporters will sure! But not when they've been waiting for Sex this entire time, just for the ENTIRE 1st Season to not only be Censored with LESS Nudity, but also have No Sex Scenes altogether. And that's EXCLUDING the factor of the horrible Development time because the Dev thought it was a good idea to make 2 games at once.
I just see no reason for it is what I'm saying. These have to be the least horny young adults I've ever seen, even Dr. Pinkcake's games have a better standard of showcasing the bear bones of sex in their 1st Season, along with other story focused, slow paced games like Artemis.I mean to be fair it does say there is no sex in Season 1 when you launch the game so I never expected alot of nudity anyhow. so censoring some nudity I don't see as a big deal personally if rating was a goal of his. Be different if he censored a sex scene to me or got rid all the nudity as there is still some. But im also one of those people that would pay for an AVN for just the characters or story without a care if there is lewds or not as they arent important to me. What is a bigger issue for me apparently some of the dialogue changes I heard about ill have to wait till I play it to judge it for myself.
With that being said I dont think it was a good move to try to get a rating when S2 is going to be tagged as an adult anyways doesn't seem worth the headache or upsetting the fanbase.
Well it's not like there is any incest in the game, no ? Having a sister ain't incest.What I am surprised by in regards to this censorship is that incest is still in the game. Does Steam look the other way or is Nami romance the next to be axed?
Cause IIRC Germany has VERY dim view of brother/sister love, to the point they send the brother to prison (considering the stories of RL cases I've read about).
PS: why don't Germans like that simply go a few km away and move to Holland? Last I checked, sibling marriages were legal there...
the slow burn is in reality Ocean's lack of progress.meh ill still love this game until Ocean makes me dislike or hate my favorite characters. no Adult scenes , self censored could care less. Since the story is more of a slow burn slice of life at this point the characters is the only thing I can enjoy from this game.
the point was to try to get a rating so he could sell it in places like Germany as I understand it which made no sense to me. Should of maintained 2 versions instead but like you said more work.I may be stupid, but what exactly was the point of trying to censor for Steam? Season 1 not being available in places like Germany was kind of a given even with the cuts Ocean tried to make and at best was a long shot. Even if season 1 was available in Germany, future seasons wouldn't be since they would have explicit adult content. What then? Is the point just to ensure immediate sales? In the longterm, as future seasons release, those people would probably see they can't get the future seasons on Steam anyway and not buy season 1 or at least makes it less likely even if it's available elsewhere like GOG. Could've tried distributing an uncensored patch on the itch page which many devs bigger and smaller have done, but I can understand not wanting to maintain multiple versions of the game causing a bit more work. Even if the decision was about visibility, the game already got slapped with the nudity tag even though it avoided the Adult tag, so the visibility is still slightly limited per Steam's system but it seems to still be doing fine on Steam. Ocean confirmed Patreon version will have the Steam cuts, but have they confirmed if the GOG version will as well? Because at that point, if multiple versions are being maintained, why not just offer an official patch?
I think the Jacuzzi scene might always be censored as that was done before the release of steam cause of music license issues if I recall but I could be wrong. I heard the lake scene won't be yes but I think some of the dialogue changes might still be changed from what I heard.so..if we wait for patreon version of season 1 it will less censored right? as this steam version has censored lake scene and censored jacuzzi scene right?
If the primary reason was to try and make it available in countries like Germany, then my point stands as it makes little sense in the longterm due to the point I previous stated and doesn't make sense in the shortterm since while he may lose some potential sales, Ocean could still direct those people to GOG.the point was to try to get a rating so he could sell it in places like Germany as I understand it which made no sense to me. Should of maintained 2 versions instead but like you said more work.
If this is the case, even more baffling not to offer an official patch or something since multiple versions are already being maintained with tweaks to each of them.I think the Jacuzzi scene might always be censored as that was done before the release of steam cause of music license issues if I recall but I could be wrong. I heard the lake scene won't be yes but I think some of the dialogue changes might still be changed from what I heard.
Jacuzzi scene was censored? how other than Namis Butt not showing everything else seemed the same.so..if we wait for patreon version of season 1 it will less censored right? as this steam version has censored lake scene and censored jacuzzi scene right?
I don't fully know the reason but I recall it's something about showing penis and vagina is a no go if he wanted to keep some of the music I think... or maybe it was steam for a non adult rating one of those 2. But yeah never made sense to me when you can show ass and boobsI really don't understand why anything other than Nikas penis was censored. Most of the censored scene were Namis and 1 scene with Nia on the basketball court. Might have missed a few more but boobs were everywhere as they said on the college free the boobs. Just doesn't make sense.