So, the new update it's first 4 seasons reworked plus some CH5 renders?? Or I lost track of the whole thing?? 
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Old Man Al
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Yeah, we Germans are this way. We call all paper hankerchiefs Tempo even if they are from another company, because that is the most known brand. We call all hair dryers Föhn, just because it was the brand that did most hair dryers back in the day, even if it was made by a company in Taiwan or wherever. And so on.Do you see anything resembling a bear ANYWHERE in that picture??? Do you reeeeaaaaaally wanna die on that hill????
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Anyways... I'm done with it, so let me just gather my thoughts a bit, but there's a few things I'll say outright:
I'm not exactly sure which songs he's trying to not lose, because like half the songs in there I've heard in BaDIK and other big games, so it's clearly not those... either way, after doing a full PT I can say with the utmost confidence that it just wasn't worth removing all the erotic moments just for a few songs that could've been replaced.
I understand the game is designed as a slow burn and it's fine, however, it only worked because Ocean had the good sense of inserting very erotic moments when needed... and some random nudity too, which by the way, is still present... it's in fact a bit puzzling as to why he chose to remove certain nude shots, but left some others... kinda feels random. Specially Bella removing her top in Ch5 all of a sudden for no reason (or rather, because he obviously removed something else in that scene)... like why even do that?
It's not surprising that Steam didn't fall for that half-assed attempt at trying to avoid the nudity/adult tag, and at that point you have to wonder why even censor anything at all... yeah, yeah, the music, whatever, it's easier to replace a track than to re-render all of those images he decided to change... I mean, whatever, that was his choice, but imo it was the wrong choice, specially considering that he's most likely not out of the hot water with the whole music thing, I suspect.
I'm gonna be honest, it felt like at least 3 or 4 erotic moments were cut out from the script in ch5 too... what I mean is that it really felt that some scenes were leading to a whole lot more and then it just doesn't happen, and it just felt odd and the scenes felt truncated, like something was missing.
Besides that, some of the reworks also resulted in narrative & visual discrepancies that SHOULD'VE been ironed-out BEFORE it got released... he'll still need to do more work on S1 as a result (or leave it as is with those mistakes, but knowing Ocean... yeah =/)... Some of the more noticeable ones were how some characters shift their appearance constantly (banana girl looks chubby at times, then thin at others... wut? I need that sudden weight-loss secret!) and of course how they reference stuff that never happens in the reworked version.
Oh, speaking of pointless changes... the 1st therapy session: Why? Dr. Mommy is still dressed inappropriately... sure, her shirt is not VERY slightly transparent anymore, now she has a huge ass cleavage that looks even sluttier that her previous shirt... soooo...
The dialogues in Ch1 and 2 also needed A LOT of polish... somewhere around ch3 they start not reading like attrocious mistranslations, but everything before that just doesn't read like proper english AT ALL... I won't comment on the extreme cringyness of the dialogues 'cause that's more of a personal taste kind of thing, but yeah, some of those dialogues between Bella & Nika are "edgy" to a point of ridiculousness... oh and by the way, repeating the word "cunt" every two seconds is NOT gonna help your game with getting a non 18+ rating... that should be obvious to anyone with any working brain-cells.
I also noticed that he removed a bunch of choices... I'm not exactly sure if those choices were all that impactful, tbh, but the problem is it feels even more Kinetic-y than before and I really don't see the point of removing those choices.
Anyways, all that to say that between all these things and the ones I mentioned before, IMO this wasn't "launch ready", or at least not how he was painting the picture. S1 is still gonna need more work, mainly to fix things that shouldn't have been changed in the first place, so the whole thing is starting to feel a bit stupid... like an excercise in futility.
And the last thing I need to ponder is: Is this even an AVN anymore? Should I just remove from my recommendation list? I mean, sure, he gutted it to shit for no reason, but there IS still a fair amount of random nudity and a whole lot of sexual talk... I mean, holy shit did he really think that was gonna fool Steam? lol... And the worst part is, there's still very much a possibility that he will end up losing his precious music rights anyways, because even IF he managed to fool everyone with S1, well S2 is supposed to be a fully R-rated game, right? Do you think the licensing companies are gonna be okay to have their songs associated with a porn "franchise" just because season 1 doesn't have hardcore sex scenes? I don't know Rick...
Imma be real, it just feels like a half-measure and half-measures are a really bad move, you need to commit one way or the other, but instead, Ocean just butchered his own game stupidly (as in he really didn't put much thought into HOW to censor it correctly once he decided to do so and just half-assed it), and in the end, pointlessly (because he clearly didn't achieve his goal... except for the music licensing thing, and again, I'm not sure he's completely avoided that problem yet)... so uhm... good job I guess?
I'm not exactly sure which songs he's trying to not lose, because like half the songs in there I've heard in BaDIK and other big games, so it's clearly not those... either way, after doing a full PT I can say with the utmost confidence that it just wasn't worth removing all the erotic moments just for a few songs that could've been replaced.
I understand the game is designed as a slow burn and it's fine, however, it only worked because Ocean had the good sense of inserting very erotic moments when needed... and some random nudity too, which by the way, is still present... it's in fact a bit puzzling as to why he chose to remove certain nude shots, but left some others... kinda feels random. Specially Bella removing her top in Ch5 all of a sudden for no reason (or rather, because he obviously removed something else in that scene)... like why even do that?
It's not surprising that Steam didn't fall for that half-assed attempt at trying to avoid the nudity/adult tag, and at that point you have to wonder why even censor anything at all... yeah, yeah, the music, whatever, it's easier to replace a track than to re-render all of those images he decided to change... I mean, whatever, that was his choice, but imo it was the wrong choice, specially considering that he's most likely not out of the hot water with the whole music thing, I suspect.
I'm gonna be honest, it felt like at least 3 or 4 erotic moments were cut out from the script in ch5 too... what I mean is that it really felt that some scenes were leading to a whole lot more and then it just doesn't happen, and it just felt odd and the scenes felt truncated, like something was missing.
Besides that, some of the reworks also resulted in narrative & visual discrepancies that SHOULD'VE been ironed-out BEFORE it got released... he'll still need to do more work on S1 as a result (or leave it as is with those mistakes, but knowing Ocean... yeah =/)... Some of the more noticeable ones were how some characters shift their appearance constantly (banana girl looks chubby at times, then thin at others... wut? I need that sudden weight-loss secret!) and of course how they reference stuff that never happens in the reworked version.
Oh, speaking of pointless changes... the 1st therapy session: Why? Dr. Mommy is still dressed inappropriately... sure, her shirt is not VERY slightly transparent anymore, now she has a huge ass cleavage that looks even sluttier that her previous shirt... soooo...
The dialogues in Ch1 and 2 also needed A LOT of polish... somewhere around ch3 they start not reading like attrocious mistranslations, but everything before that just doesn't read like proper english AT ALL... I won't comment on the extreme cringyness of the dialogues 'cause that's more of a personal taste kind of thing, but yeah, some of those dialogues between Bella & Nika are "edgy" to a point of ridiculousness... oh and by the way, repeating the word "cunt" every two seconds is NOT gonna help your game with getting a non 18+ rating... that should be obvious to anyone with any working brain-cells.
I also noticed that he removed a bunch of choices... I'm not exactly sure if those choices were all that impactful, tbh, but the problem is it feels even more Kinetic-y than before and I really don't see the point of removing those choices.
Anyways, all that to say that between all these things and the ones I mentioned before, IMO this wasn't "launch ready", or at least not how he was painting the picture. S1 is still gonna need more work, mainly to fix things that shouldn't have been changed in the first place, so the whole thing is starting to feel a bit stupid... like an excercise in futility.
And the last thing I need to ponder is: Is this even an AVN anymore? Should I just remove from my recommendation list? I mean, sure, he gutted it to shit for no reason, but there IS still a fair amount of random nudity and a whole lot of sexual talk... I mean, holy shit did he really think that was gonna fool Steam? lol... And the worst part is, there's still very much a possibility that he will end up losing his precious music rights anyways, because even IF he managed to fool everyone with S1, well S2 is supposed to be a fully R-rated game, right? Do you think the licensing companies are gonna be okay to have their songs associated with a porn "franchise" just because season 1 doesn't have hardcore sex scenes? I don't know Rick...
Imma be real, it just feels like a half-measure and half-measures are a really bad move, you need to commit one way or the other, but instead, Ocean just butchered his own game stupidly (as in he really didn't put much thought into HOW to censor it correctly once he decided to do so and just half-assed it), and in the end, pointlessly (because he clearly didn't achieve his goal... except for the music licensing thing, and again, I'm not sure he's completely avoided that problem yet)... so uhm... good job I guess?
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Yeah everyone does that, but again, those are jelly beans... clearly... not gummy anything, let alone bears. It doesn't matter what germans say, you shouldn't make that type of blunders in a game intended for international audiences... mind you, it's a minor thing in this case, but yeah, generally speaking I mean.
Also, since you're a german, can you explain what the fuck is a "mensa"? Twice they talk about going to grab a bite "to the mensa"... I only know one MENSA and that's a whole other thing.
Old Man Al
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Sure, a mensa is the universities canteen.
Well then there you go, something else that should've been changed years ago... not even google could provide me with that answer (thanks, btw)... but then again, like I said, the first 2 chapters or so need A LOT more work in terms of translation... it's really quite bad... worse than I remembered, because they improve later on and I just forgot about how bad it is at the start.
whats wrong with the jacuzzi scene.
if nami cant be in the picture theres not much reason to play .
if nami cant be in the picture theres not much reason to play .
Arch12
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I don't even think it's intentional. I think that, like a lot of the part time porn devs here, That they have no checks and balances for the development process. Most have what, 1 or 2 other people helping and sometimes it's just the dev solo. They have all these ideas and things they want to do but no one to tell them no or to slow down or stop. They just keep jamming all this content in until, Like Ocean has done already with both his games, Had to rework them. Now both the games are reworked, starting to bloat up full of random story lines and an overabundance of characters being added in. He will eventually get to a point where he realizes once again he has to much stuff going nowhere, rework huge parts or the whole story again or just abandon it once and for all.
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Well, what we have here ... not all but atleast something is back.
I mean, sure that's nice and all, but he's still playin dumb with it... Like I said before, he needs to fuckin commit: either he's in the porn games business or he's not... just adding back a few titty shots to the game ain't gonna make a difference...
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Like it anyway ... little sad that he dropped something he had planned, but hey. It's what it is.
Haven't heard about what the plans were, but I can guess based on what I saw in ch5... I bet there was at least a fingering/cunnilingus scene with Bella that was planned, it's soooo fuckin obvious that's where things were heading... =/
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The cat was added.
as good as the renders are for this game, and the other one. both stories are a steaming pile of shit. and i am done with them both.
Ray_D
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boy I can't wait for the remake of the first three episodes of the second season.
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Is it true that people are going crazy over gummy bears?
Also, there won't be any sex scenes for most of the second season. So, if you're only interested in that, this game may not be for you.
Also, there won't be any sex scenes for most of the second season. So, if you're only interested in that, this game may not be for you.
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