AlexFXR

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The word “adult”, also known as the letter A in the abbreviation AVN, implies a rating of 16+. Where and who did he deceive?
It's an old story... Ocean asked his fans for money in exchange for quickly releasing new chapters. He said that he needed money to buy new video cards. They gave him money and he bought 2x3090. Then he again started asking for money to further speed up the release of new chapters. They gave him money and he bought a PC with 2xA6000. It is very convenient to have 2 PCs, for example, on a PC with a 3090 you create scenes, and at the same time a second PC with an A6000 is engaged in rendering. This method saves a lot of time. Last year, after Ocean created the scenes, he wrote that he would now render them, which took several months. People began to be indignant at why he didn’t render it right away, because for this Ocean asked us for money for new cards. They complain that Ocean deceived them and simply took their money.
 
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Den1mo

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Some of us have been saying this for years. Both Bella and Nami's routes were butchered way before 5.0 Beta or the S1 final.

I would invite anyone who disagrees to play the pre-reworked version 3.0 of the Bella and MC fight in her room when MC finds out about her sister. It was so much heavier. Much more emotional and poignant.

All Ocean did with the introduction of the reworks was dilute the story. Like adding ice cubes to a glass of the finest whisky in the world.
if I were to play SG for first time today I would probably be very satisfied. but i agree with what you say. SG had slightly different atmosphere before rework. there are many things rework improved but also many things we lost thanks to it. I didn't have the same feeling about it as before

it is good. i certainly wouldn't say that rework made SG something I don't want to play anymore. but even though I'm already spoiled and love high quality visual I'd still choose SG from time before rework
 

AlexFXR

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You can just ignore what Alex wrote (as with most of the stuff he posts in this thread) about Oceans patreons. I am one of them, and while I don't read every comment there what I read is as positive and/or supportive as the reviews here and on Steam. Could of course be that all the highest tier patreons are bitching something like that, but that would make as much sense as the ususal Alex-post.
Who should they listen to, Ocean's bots? You are very famous, you think I don’t know the rumors that you are on all major sites like this or Reddit under different nicknames licking Ocean’s ass trying to cleanse him of fraud and bad deeds. It doesn’t matter to me that Ocean is deceiving its Patreons, they are to blame for this, they will think next time before donating. It’s just not clear why you continue to incite their negativity and aggression together with Ocean? On the contrary, they need to be reassured. If they come to complain not here, but on Steam, do you think it will be better? The same thing will happen as on Patreon, people will leave Ocean, only on Steam he will no longer be able to cleanse himself of the milker mark.
 

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Ocean completely fucked up the heist with the rework.
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The heist isn't the only reworked scene where Bella took a hit.
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Conclusion: the changes suck and the progression of Nika and Bella's relationship doesn't feel as natural as it used to.
The buttplug made the heist hilarious
 

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Who should they listen to, Ocean's bots? You are very famous, you think I don’t know the rumors that you are on all major sites like this or Reddit under different nicknames licking Ocean’s ass trying to cleanse him of fraud and bad deeds. It doesn’t matter to me that Ocean is deceiving its Patreons, they are to blame for this, they will think next time before donating. It’s just not clear why you continue to incite their negativity and aggression together with Ocean? On the contrary, they need to be reassured. If they come to complain not here, but on Steam, do you think it will be better? The same thing will happen as on Patreon, people will leave Ocean, only on Steam he will no longer be able to cleanse himself of the milker mark.
I have always been suspicious of those who, from the very first lines, mention “bots” directly.
No one will come to Steam, and if so, moderators will quickly clear out reviews based on the experience of a third-party site.

How funny it sounds, “deceiving your donors,” yeah. I hear some laughter, who could it be? Ah! Chris Roberts, it's you.
In the end, what the game will be like and how many reworks it will need is the author's decision. And the fact that someone decided to pay for air and did not even lose, but received something other than what they expected, is not his problem.
 
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dan_roger69

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Some of us have been saying this for years. Both Bella and Nami's routes were butchered way before 5.0 Beta or the S1 final.

I would invite anyone who disagrees to play the pre-reworked version 3.0 of the Bella and MC fight in her room when MC finds out about her sister. It was so much heavier. Much more emotional and poignant.

All Ocean did with the introduction of the reworks was dilute the story. Like adding ice cubes to a glass of the finest whisky in the world.
I haven't played the pre-reworked version 3.0. Where can I download it. Couldn't find the link in the OP.
 

RNasc4444

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I haven't played the pre-reworked version 3.0. Where can I download it. Couldn't find the link in the OP.
Wish I could link you a post from a user that had all previous versions and all corresponding links to them. But since I cannot find it now I can link you 2 posts I found with the 3.0 and 3.5 versions that were just before the reworks started.

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11421228

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11435834

Disclaimer: The links seem to be working but I haven't verified them.
 

alain8891

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Some of us have been saying this for years. Both Bella and Nami's routes were butchered way before 5.0 Beta or the S1 final.

I would invite anyone who disagrees to play the pre-reworked version 3.0 of the Bella and MC fight in her room when MC finds out about her sister. It was so much heavier. Much more emotional and poignant.

All Ocean did with the introduction of the reworks was dilute the story. Like adding ice cubes to a glass of the finest whisky in the world.
I disagree. Not only was the writing much worse (and that is saying something, considering even the final game isn't what I'd call stellar), it was way too agressive and lacked subtlety.
 

RNasc4444

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I disagree. Not only was the writing much worse (and that is saying something, considering even the final game isn't what I'd call stellar), it was way too agressive and lacked subtlety.
Fair. But the raw emotional weight of the narrative and characters was what I truly enjoyed about this game. It was what made it stand out to me.

Now it's just another boring, bland, dime a dozen mainstream story. Imo of course. So agree to disagree :)
 

dan_roger69

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Wish I could link you a post from a user that had all previous versions and all corresponding links to them. But since I cannot find it now I can link you 2 posts I found with the 3.0 and 3.5 versions that were just before the reworks started.

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11421228

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11435834

Disclaimer: The links seem to be working but I haven't verified them.
Thanks for sharing links.
 
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AlexFXR

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I have always been suspicious of those who, from the very first lines, mention “bots” directly.
No one will come to Steam, and if so, moderators will quickly clear out reviews based on the experience of a third-party site.
When I was reading this story they were called sycophants. I decided to call them bots, I think it will be more correct.

I can go to Steam and write any review I want. My review is posted in Star Citizen and is very popular, although some people consider it negative. In that review, I just did an initial analysis and posted the results based on it, (my analysis completely came true) I do this every day at work. It has been hanging for several years and no one has removed it.
 

O1duvai

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When I was reading this story they were called sycophants. I decided to call them bots, I think it will be more correct.

I can go to Steam and write any review I want. My review is posted in Star Citizen and is very popular, although some people consider it negative. In that review, I just did an initial analysis and posted the results based on it, (my analysis completely came true) I do this every day at work. It has been hanging for several years and no one has removed it.
Okay, okay. Keep watching it.
I suspect that those who have their own studio and receive millions for air from “fans” do not need to contact Steam support.

Actually, here are the answers.
Now we can be sure that even after the release of the third season in ten years, we will definitely see your posts and dissatisfaction here. Everyone has their own hobbies.
 

I'm Fucking Red

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You can just ignore what Alex wrote (as with most of the stuff he posts in this thread) about Oceans patreons. I am one of them, and while I don't read every comment there what I read is as positive and/or supportive as the reviews here and on Steam. Could of course be that all the highest tier patreons are bitching something like that, but that would make as much sense as the ususal Alex-post.
Noted. Maybe fapping rotted his brain and now he can't play a visual novel without seeing a sex scene every few minutes. It's annoying to see someone spreading misinformation, but I'm glad to see that the patrons are supportive. I really want Ocean to go all out on this game, it's incredibly good.
 

yossa999

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I have always been suspicious of those who, from the very first lines, mention “bots” directly.
No one will come to Steam, and if so, moderators will quickly clear out reviews based on the experience of a third-party site.

How funny it sounds, “deceiving your donors,” yeah. I hear some laughter, who could it be? Ah! Chris Roberts, it's you.
In the end, what the game will be like and how many reworks it will need is the author's decision. And the fact that someone decided to pay for air and did not even lose, but received something other than what they expected, is not his problem.
When you stay in this thread long enough, it's really funny to see this troll go unseen for a long time. Not because he doesn’t write anything, but because the whole thread has added him to ignore. Then a new wave of players comes into the thread, and for several days, or even weeks, this dude pops up in quotes every day, and the newbies' blood pressure gradually rises. Then it dawns on them that they continue to talk to the copy-paste and they also ignore him. Then the cycle repeats.

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BobTheDuck

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Noted. Maybe fapping rotted his brain and now he can't play a visual novel without seeing a sex scene every few minutes. It's annoying to see someone spreading misinformation, but I'm glad to see that the patrons are supportive. I really want Ocean to go all out on this game, it's incredibly good.
He gets hard trolling. It's the only thing that works for him I guess. The congnitive dissonance of attacking patrons who provide the leaks and devlogs, as well as supporting the dev so there is a even a game is astounding.

He is:
- attacking Ocean's patrons for (allegedly) doing what he does almost daily (publicly tearing Ocean a new one with bad reviews, milking claims, narrative complaints etc)
- attacking white knights or sychophants for wanting Ocean to succeed, which he claims he wants.
- claims he's a free thinker who sees through evil dev's malicious lies, but denigrates anyone who dares have an alternative opinion.

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He gets hard trolling. It's the only thing that works for him I guess. The congnitive dissonance of attacking patrons who provide the leaks and devlogs, as well as supporting the dev so there is a even a game is astounding.

He is:
- attacking Ocean's patrons for (allegedly) doing what he does almost daily (publicly tearing Ocean a new one with bad reviews, milking claims, narrative complaints etc)
- attacking white knights or sychophants for wanting Ocean to succeed, which he claims he wants.
- claims he's a free thinker who sees through evil dev's malicious lies, but denigrates anyone who dares have an alternative opinion.

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BobTheDuck

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I disagree. Not only was the writing much worse (and that is saying something, considering even the final game isn't what I'd call stellar), it was way too agressive and lacked subtlety.
I'm on the fence about it. In some cases Ocean vastly improved the plausibility of thinks, but for four characters he took some of their parts backwards.

- Bella in the rework is mostly emotionally stable and just a bitch. Pre-rework, she snapped mentally when triggered, no we have tantrums. But, having said that, Bella in Ch5 is better than any previous chapter of Bella, as far as consistency of character. It'd just be great if she didn't have resting bitchface as an emotion, but was volatile, showing that AMber doesn't know how to 'fix' her daughter.
- Nami lost great content, but I believe her story arc is now far better. I can see the build up to a romance being less forced, she's uncertain that she wants it, even if her emotions say yes. She's more afraid of consequences, and less certain of her own desires and has become more of a wildcard. I do sympathise with people who lost scenes that made Nami endearing to them, because in her case, the material was pretty much just cut.
- Mila. We all know, even if new players don't. But her model is not voluptuous. I don't even know. Some stuff in ch4.5 and 5 seems more natural, but I don't even know what her body shape is anymore.
- Boobs. Boobs have suffered. It's like Ocean has done a Wayne's World EXTREME CLOSEUP! He already had great boobs, it was not necessary to add so much digital silicon.

But, overall, if I forget where it started, and take it as a complete body of work, the story is overall, great, and the writing in the newer chapters is generally better than the reworked parts, because it doesn't have to fit what was there before. I have hope for Season 2 because Ocean has an open road ahead, hopefully no more roundabouts.
 
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