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I have always been suspicious of those who, from the very first lines, mention “bots” directly.
No one will come to Steam, and if so, moderators will quickly clear out reviews based on the experience of a third-party site.
How funny it sounds, “deceiving your donors,” yeah. I hear some laughter, who could it be? Ah! Chris Roberts, it's you.
In the end, what the game will be like and how many reworks it will need is the author's decision. And the fact that someone decided to pay for air and did not even lose, but received something other than what they expected, is not his problem.
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I haven't played the pre-reworked version 3.0. Where can I download it. Couldn't find the link in the OP.
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https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-4973332
This is the last version before the rework began if I remember correctly. Workupload link still work.
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Wish I could link you a post from a user that had all previous versions and all corresponding links to them. But since I cannot find it now I can link you 2 posts I found with the 3.0 and 3.5 versions that were just before the reworks started.
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11421228
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11435834
Disclaimer: The links seem to be working but I haven't verified them.
- Dec 18, 2023
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I disagree. Not only was the writing much worse (and that is saying something, considering even the final game isn't what I'd call stellar), it was way too agressive and lacked subtlety.
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Fair. But the raw emotional weight of the narrative and characters was what I truly enjoyed about this game. It was what made it stand out to me.
Now it's just another boring, bland, dime a dozen mainstream story. Imo of course. So agree to disagree
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When I was reading this story they were called sycophants. I decided to call them bots, I think it will be more correct.
I can go to Steam and write any review I want. My review is posted in Star Citizen and is very popular, although some people consider it negative. In that review, I just did an initial analysis and posted the results based on it, (my analysis completely came true) I do this every day at work. It has been hanging for several years and no one has removed it.
- Jan 5, 2022
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Okay, okay. Keep watching it.
I suspect that those who have their own studio and receive millions for air from “fans” do not need to contact Steam support.
Actually, here are the answers.
Now we can be sure that even after the release of the third season in ten years, we will definitely see your posts and dissatisfaction here. Everyone has their own hobbies.
- Oct 16, 2021
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Noted. Maybe fapping rotted his brain and now he can't play a visual novel without seeing a sex scene every few minutes. It's annoying to see someone spreading misinformation, but I'm glad to see that the patrons are supportive. I really want Ocean to go all out on this game, it's incredibly good.
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When you stay in this thread long enough, it's really funny to see this troll go unseen for a long time. Not because he doesn’t write anything, but because the whole thread has added him to ignore. Then a new wave of players comes into the thread, and for several days, or even weeks, this dude pops up in quotes every day, and the newbies' blood pressure gradually rises. Then it dawns on them that they continue to talk to the copy-paste and they also ignore him. Then the cycle repeats.
- Dec 24, 2018
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He gets hard trolling. It's the only thing that works for him I guess. The congnitive dissonance of attacking patrons who provide the leaks and devlogs, as well as supporting the dev so there is a even a game is astounding.
He is:
- attacking Ocean's patrons for (allegedly) doing what he does almost daily (publicly tearing Ocean a new one with bad reviews, milking claims, narrative complaints etc)
- attacking white knights or sychophants for wanting Ocean to succeed, which he claims he wants.
- claims he's a free thinker who sees through evil dev's malicious lies, but denigrates anyone who dares have an alternative opinion.
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I'm on the fence about it. In some cases Ocean vastly improved the plausibility of thinks, but for four characters he took some of their parts backwards.
- Bella in the rework is mostly emotionally stable and just a bitch. Pre-rework, she snapped mentally when triggered, no we have tantrums. But, having said that, Bella in Ch5 is better than any previous chapter of Bella, as far as consistency of character. It'd just be great if she didn't have resting bitchface as an emotion, but was volatile, showing that AMber doesn't know how to 'fix' her daughter.
- Nami lost great content, but I believe her story arc is now far better. I can see the build up to a romance being less forced, she's uncertain that she wants it, even if her emotions say yes. She's more afraid of consequences, and less certain of her own desires and has become more of a wildcard. I do sympathise with people who lost scenes that made Nami endearing to them, because in her case, the material was pretty much just cut.
- Mila. We all know, even if new players don't. But her model is not voluptuous. I don't even know. Some stuff in ch4.5 and 5 seems more natural, but I don't even know what her body shape is anymore.
- Boobs. Boobs have suffered. It's like Ocean has done a Wayne's World EXTREME CLOSEUP! He already had great boobs, it was not necessary to add so much digital silicon.
But, overall, if I forget where it started, and take it as a complete body of work, the story is overall, great, and the writing in the newer chapters is generally better than the reworked parts, because it doesn't have to fit what was there before. I have hope for Season 2 because Ocean has an open road ahead, hopefully no more roundabouts.
I think this game has some of the best characterizations in all of AVNs. All of the characters (except for one) have a clear distinctive nature to them even the ones that don't have a lot of screentime. I'm not saying its perfect or anything but for AVNs its actually really impressive, which makes it all the more hilarious that Summer herself might have the worst characterization in all of fiction. This bitch is a completely different character scene to scene moment to moment and often line to line nothing about her character traits or motivations are even remotely consistent. A soggy cardboard box has better characterization then Summer because at least we can understand that its soggy and a box made out of cardboard, its not going to magically turn into a bicycle at the drop of a fucking hat. One moment she wants to grab a spider to fight another spider then the next moment she is overly scared of a imaginary spider on her shoulder, one line she yells that Nami is stupid just because she borrowed some gloves than literally the next line says that she is sad that they don't hang out anymore, one scene she is super mature, selfless and attentive to Nia on her birthday then another scene she could barley control herself screaming and jumping on people n shit when Nika didn't want them to mess with his console. And those are examples off the top of my head their is a lot more and don't forget she doesn't even have a lot of screentime either but somehow someway she managed to be like 12 contradictory characters in that short timespan.
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Generally I'd agree, but 12-13 year olds are not known for consistency or maturity but are capable of such things at least 33% of the time. If you analyse most of SG's characters enough, you'll find inconsistencies. If you analyse real life public personalities you'll also discover inconsistencies.
I find her a completely believable character, keeping in mind the flashbacks are told from either Nika or Nia's perspective - Nia has put Summer on a pedestal far taller than Nika has, even if she doesn't have the same sort of trauma. Nika is specifically remembering moments that are out of sync, and his memory is suspect (not remembering Vic's surname is a classic example, not remembering things about the hospital etc.)
I think Ocean has done well to avoid making her an angel, because she was just a regular person, she is not meant to be superior to any of the LI's in any way, she was 'merely' the person Nika can't get over.
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Didn't think much about it but Nicks house must be really huge. in one night he bought in his girls 2 teens Then Mila pops up and he lets her stay for the night. Nick also must be a good dude to let a stranger (Mila) stay in his house. Friend of his girls kids or no still a stranger or maybe he saw what I saw big Tiddies and phat ass and he thought Nojiko nice, Mila DDaaayyyyyuuumm.
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I genuinely do not understand the white knightism
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At this point I believe it's in big part due to fears of the game being abandoned. I've been here long enough to realize that even Oceans biggest fans, supporters and staunch defenders know that the game has serious flaws and weaknesses. But they choose to overlook them because they want the game to keep going.
Games get abandoned here pretty much every week. For multiple reasons. One of them is devs not being able to handle criticism. Whatever form of it. Fair or unfair, honest or not. Seeing games you enjoy getting that tag tend to make you a little overprotective of the ones that may follow suit.
I'm sure there are other reasons for it but this has to be one of the biggest.
Personally I don't believe in coddling devs or artists or whatever. I give what I perceive as fair feedback. Both good or bad. Because at the end of the day, praising a bad product will never help make it better.