VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[O1duvai]

I mean if we are talking about 5000 renders at the least it'll be first quarter of 2025 most likely. That is without the animations and cinematics of course. Every 1000 renders adds like 2-3 months of production after that so I don't know how to feel about this. Splitting the chapter into two seems not so bad suddenly

At least five other people worked on the technical side of the game, during the production of the first season. It seems he has already written the text and if the renderings are ready too, he can finish it by the end of the year.
Here the question is a little different. There are two games in production and he didn’t put the prequel on pause.

 

[Ottoeight]

So, after ch.5 beta, I'm finally playing Season 1, at last.

... and I'm wondering: WHY SO MANY UNNECESSARY CHANGES?

For instance, why removing Nika and Zara's first meeting? she just walks past him, now. No conversation about the trophies. WHY DID HE CHANGE IT?

WHY?

EVERY character looks less interesting and less "edgy". Everybody is duller.

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[RNasc4444]

So, after ch.5 beta, I'm finally playing Season 1, at last.

... and I'm wondering: WHY SO MANY UNNECESSARY CHANGES?

For instance, why removing Nika and Zara's first meeting? she just walks past him, now. No conversation about the trophies. WHY DID HE CHANGE IT?

WHY?

EVERY character looks less interesting and less "edgy". Everybody is duller.

Do yourself a favor and use the uncut mod. The final release is absolutely unplayable for me and I imagine it will be for others who enjoyed the more OG versions. You will get a far better experience and the transferable save for the next season.

 

[charlesrich]

Not a fan of where this is headed. Game clearly needs a restart from the beginning. Take your time and get it right this time. At least 3 years between updates.

 

[AlexFXR]

I mean if we are talking about 5000 renders at the least it'll be first quarter of 2025 most likely. That is without the animations and cinematics of course. Every 1000 renders adds like 2-3 months of production after that so I don't know how to feel about this. Splitting the chapter into two seems not so bad suddenly

Ocean said he makes just over 1,000 renders a month. If there are 5000 renders, then it will take 5 months + time for coding and dialogues.

 

[yossa999]

For instance, why removing Nika and Zara's first meeting? she just walks past him, now. No conversation about the trophies. WHY DID HE CHANGE IT?

You mean this deleted scene? Yes, sure, no conversation about trophies at all.

 

[LHDLLB]

Ocean already said that wednesday with Amber will occupy a big part of a chapter. So, trying to predict the future, I think chp1 saturday night to monday afternoon, chp2 monday nigth to wednesday morning, and chp3 wednesday trip with Amber till ???.

Amber trip would not be weekend ? Wednesday, if you are not on Bella's path Vanessa offers to buy underwear for Nika, and thursday there is a sex shop trip. And training every night outside schools hours, I don't think that he needs to show every traning session, but makes part of the timeline.

 

[Winterstale]

You mean this deleted scene? Yes, sure, no conversation about trophies at all.
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... must be just a tiny fraction of the actual time you've invested, huh?

 

[Ottoeight]

Do yourself a favor and use the uncut mod. The final release is absolutely unplayable for me and I imagine it will be for others who enjoyed the more OG versions. You will get a far better experience and the transferable save for the next season.

The early chapters are a complete mess now.

Now, Amber talks to Holgerson, then she goes and talks to Bella and Nika about the burglary - telling them they think Mila did it. She asks Nika whether his surname is Cyrus and... he infers that she is his therapist. WHY IS IT?

(anyway, in the old version if Nika refuses to join Bella, the burglar doesn't happen)

Marla shows the students around ZPR, but she doesn't recognise Nika. Then she flinches looking at him when she holds the first lesson, BUT she doesn't bat an eyelid with Victoria (who is there, too)...

We can go on forever...

 

[yossa999]

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... must be just a tiny fraction of the actual time you've invested, huh?

Yes, since the release of the Steam version I have only completed one Bella's playthrough; I haven’t had much time for AVNs lately. But I will reserve "SG day" next month

EDIT: I mean there's no point in playing something like SG if you don't have time to do a playthrough straight from beginning to end without getting distracted or interrupted.

 

[c.mork]

I have completed one Bella playthrough

 

[PaxHadrian17]

So, after ch.5 beta, I'm finally playing Season 1, at last.

... and I'm wondering: WHY SO MANY UNNECESSARY CHANGES?

For instance, why removing Nika and Zara's first meeting? she just walks past him, now. No conversation about the trophies. WHY DID HE CHANGE IT?

WHY?

EVERY character looks less interesting and less "edgy". Everybody is duller.

There have been literally hundreds and hundreds of posts surrounding this so I will give a Very brief summary.

Ocean finished the changes to the early story where the MC was darker/edgier and more dangerous.

SG became a story focused on healing versus whatever the original story was aiming for.

There are major changes in CHs 1, 2 and part of CH 3, with the loss of some music due to licensing issues and the change/addition of renders/entire new scenes; this includes some new pathing (but I could not tell you which specific variables changed).

Ocean removed some of the nudity (full frontal male for ex.) as part of putting SG on Steam and trying to get it listed in his home country of Germany.

He was also trying to pursue a rating that would not leave SG restricted in terms of its potential Steam audience.

Others can comment or not about this but that is beyond the purview of my 'Very brief'TM review...

There are mods that restore content/music that was removed so that is a route that you can take for a full playthrough.

We have not seen how the save import feature will work - pulling S1 saves into the first rev of S2.

While you have months before this becomes an issue, my personal preference is to maintain my desired saves for SG S1 (unmodded) so I can import them into S2 once S2 lands.

I will get around to playing modded SG - less for restoring old renders/verbiage but much more for the music that was tied to the cinematography, like Waykap and Humble Hey, all lost due to licensing issues.

Cheers!!

 

[yossa999]

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Don't pout, muh boy, your ranting about her is one of the reasons I choose her first. Say what you want, but she's not your typical popular blue-haired, over-tattooed tsundere, she's still one of the best AVN characters. And scene in the kitchen is the best.

 

[Don Sucio]

I mean if we are talking about 5000 renders at the least it'll be first quarter of 2025 most likely. That is without the animations and cinematics of course. Every 1000 renders adds like 2-3 months of production after that so I don't know how to feel about this. Splitting the chapter into two seems not so bad suddenly

I don´t know how i feel about splitting the chapters

I´m a pacient guy so i don´t care too much if i have to wait more (except when we are about 2 months near to the update, then i can´t wait any more). My experience with most split chapter is not very good, devs usually ends the first middle of the update very abruptly and i don´t like that, and many times i lose the interest in the plot because of that, o i forget about what happen in the first part when the second part relase so i have to play it again... And majority of chapters divided in two are very short for my taste. In this case the update will be massive, so maybe a part could have 2.500 renders and the other one the rest 2.500 renders, it would be nice imo because the parts would be big, but at the end i still preferring one unique update with the 5.000 renders at once.

We will see how Ocean manage that when the time begins to pass but i prefer if he doesn´t split anything and just go with all at once, but who knows, maybe is too ambitious and in a future i end wanting he to split the chapter, who knows.

Not a fan of where this is headed. Game clearly needs a restart from the beginning. Take your time and get it right this time. At least 3 years between updates.

 

[Maviarab]

Not a fan of where this is headed. Game clearly needs a restart from the beginning. Take your time and get it right this time. At least 3 years between updates.

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[razante]

Amber trip would not be weekend ? Wednesday, if you are not on Bella's path Vanessa offers to buy underwear for Nika, and thursday there is a sex shop trip. And training every night outside schools hours, I don't think that he needs to show every traning session, but makes part of the timeline.

I can be wrong but I remember that he talks with miss Marla about missing a class, so I am 100% sure is in a week day.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I can be wrong but I remember that he talks with miss Marla about missing a class, so I am 100% sure is in a week day.

I don't remember that conversation. When was that? He talked to Miss Marla about missing a class to have a session with Sexy Amber that was that day which he told Amber Marla was crying and Amber told him she wants to take him to the cabin. Did Nika make another request? Genuinely curious.

 

[Old Man Al]

I don´t know how i feel about splitting the chapters
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Splitting to much, especially in a game with many paths, is always a bad idea.
Else you will wait half a year for an update and then get the message "btw. in this update the following LIs are not featured at all", your LI is among them and boom another half a year waiting.
Luckily Ocean has sent more rails with the reworks, like the burglary with Bella always happens now. Else this would go into complete chaos, the more the story advances.

 

[alain8891]

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Luckily Ocean has sent more rails with the reworks, like the burglary with Bella always happens now. Else this would go into complete chaos, the more the story advances.

huh…no it doesn’t always happen. You can still refuse to do it. The only difference with the final rework is you go to her to tell her you won’t do it…

 

[Ottoeight]

huh…no it doesn’t always happen. You can still refuse to do it. The only difference with the final rework is you go to her to tell her you won’t do it…

YES, it ALWAYS happens now.

NOW:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika refuses ----> Bella does it alone


PREVIOUSLY:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika doesn't join Bella ----> Bella gives up, the burglar doesn't happen, the Holgersons don't pick on Mila, and Mila is unhappy because her parents took her savings.