Old Man Al

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I don´t know how i feel about splitting the chapters :unsure:
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Splitting to much, especially in a game with many paths, is always a bad idea.
Else you will wait half a year for an update and then get the message "btw. in this update the following LIs are not featured at all", your LI is among them and boom another half a year waiting.
Luckily Ocean has sent more rails with the reworks, like the burglary with Bella always happens now. Else this would go into complete chaos, the more the story advances.
 

alain8891

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Luckily Ocean has sent more rails with the reworks, like the burglary with Bella always happens now. Else this would go into complete chaos, the more the story advances.
huh…no it doesn’t always happen. You can still refuse to do it. The only difference with the final rework is you go to her to tell her you won’t do it…
 

Ottoeight

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huh…no it doesn’t always happen. You can still refuse to do it. The only difference with the final rework is you go to her to tell her you won’t do it…
YES, it ALWAYS happens now.

NOW:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika refuses ----> Bella does it alone


PREVIOUSLY:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika doesn't join Bella ----> Bella gives up, the burglar doesn't happen, the Holgersons don't pick on Mila, and Mila is unhappy because her parents took her savings.
 

Ottoeight

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Splitting to much, especially in a game with many paths, is always a bad idea.
Else you will wait half a year for an update and then get the message "btw. in this update the following LIs are not featured at all", your LI is among them and boom another half a year waiting.
Luckily Ocean has sent more rails with the reworks, like the burglary with Bella always happens now. Else this would go into complete chaos, the more the story advances.
Honestly, I think the whole burglar affair is crap. Holgersons picking on Mila after the burglar is ultimate crap.
 

alain8891

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YES, it ALWAYS happens now.

NOW:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika refuses ----> Bella does it alone


PREVIOUSLY:

Nika joins Bella ---> Nika is her accomplice
Nika doesn't join Bella ----> Bella gives up, the burglar doesn't happen, the Holgersons don't pick on Mila, and Mila is unhappy because her parents took her savings.
Right...I was thinking from MC's perspective only. You're right of course...
 
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Ocean finished the changes to the early story where the MC was darker/edgier and more dangerous.

SG became a story focused on healing versus whatever the original story was aiming for.
Ocean didn't happen to say who he was going to heal and from what disease? I used to think that MC was suffering from impotence due to psychological trauma and would be treated, but it turns out that this is not the case. In all these years, he never visited a doctor to get rid of impotence. Moreover, in the early uncensored scenes we learn that the MC does not have impotence. There are no more sick people in this game.
 

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I'm not German so i dont the legal system there, but why/how does mila get in trouble for something she didnt do and they have no evidence on her being there? am i missing something?
 
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Dessolos

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I'm not German so i dont the legal system there, but why/how does mila get in trouble for something she didnt do and they have no evidence on her being there? am i missing something?
best guess Bella used her name when talking to the neighbors or framed her somehow. But im thinking she just used her name and they are probably rich enough to use some corrupt cops to make some evidence. Tho maybe im over thinking it. That part confused me as well.
 
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Hello everyone I just finished the first season and ocean said there is going be five game of this universe so is he going to make the games after this and other game are finished or he wants to make all of those games at the same time?
 

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I'm not German so i dont the legal system there, but why/how does mila get in trouble for something she didnt do and they have no evidence on her being there? am i missing something?
The same way as in other countries: Someone, let's call him Mario, makes a statement to the police that he can imagine it was Mila. The cops follow up on this and question Mila. Result: stress and obviously a stressful situation for Mila. In the end, the police don't even have to come to the conclusion that it was her. But the damage to Mila is still there.
 

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Hello everyone I just finished the first season and ocean said there is going be five game of this universe so is he going to make the games after this and other game are finished or he wants to make all of those games at the same time?
He is currently doing 2 of these 5 games, but he will only start de other 3 after Summer's gone and Where it all begin.
 

Ottoeight

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Well only Ocean knows how SG will end and he thinks it's important, so...
Since Mario is a sort of Vanessa's puppet, my hunch is telling me that the whole affair will develop into some sort of situation where Vanessa - who is a very manipulative, cunning and smart woman - will grasp the truth and she will use it in order to manipulate Nika & Bella.



Hello everyone I just finished the first season and ocean said there is going be five game of this universe so is he going to make the games after this and other game are finished or he wants to make all of those games at the same time?
We will play them in our afterlifes, I guess.
 
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Ottoeight

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So, just another continuity plot mistake due to the fact that the Dude keeps on rewriting what he's not supposed to rewrite:

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Previously, Amber tells Bella about the gala invitation after Nika leaves.

Now, in this final Season 1 release she tells her in front of Nika.

Therefore, this whole dialogue at the restaurant about the Holgersons' invitation doesn't make sense anymore (Ocean should have changed it as well).


This is what we got after 5 WHOLE YEARS of endless rewritings. And yet I still see people whiteknighting this dev.

Oh man.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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I'm enjoying Ocean's creations, and he is, IMO, a very dependable dev.

I enjoyed SG season 1 and, for the most part, I enjoy the current version of SG more than I enjoyed the emo/edgelord mix of 2/3 years ago.

Do I miss some of the cinematography created with specific music in mind - yes, but it also gave us a taste of what Ocean can do with good music and hardware.

Am I aghast at the loss of some dick pics so Ocean could try to get a better rating on Steam - Nope.

I'm looking forward to the first release in S2, whenever it lands, and I have no reason to believe that I won't enjoy it at least as much as I did the final CH of S1.

For those who love to complain about never seeing the end of SG, why stay?

If you are truly miserable at the thought of having to wait So long for more content, set a reminder to check out SG in Dec 2029 and move on to AVNs with much shorter timelines or completed tags.

When you return in ~ 5.5 years, you will either have a lot more content to enjoy or you won't - and life will still go on...

When we find a creation we really enjoy - be it an AVN, a good book series or a TV series, for example, there is always the risk that the series/creation ends uncompleted.

I've seen dozens of good/great AVNs die on the vine - abandoned due to mental health issues/dev team breaks up/RL family issues/Insufficient $ support to continue development, etc.

I try to focus on the journey and what I Can enjoy versus what has been 'taken away from me' or what died on the vine.

Ocean continues to give us dev logs for SG every two weeks and I'm enjoying the renders/details about what is happening in the background.

I supported more than 30+ AVNs with $ since I discovered AVNs and Ocean is in the top 25% of those for communication with his $ supporters, something I both value and appreciate.

So - I am here for the long haul, and I will take my usual optimistic approach to Summers Gone and enjoy this journey for what it is: a fictional story with characters I find interesting, told with very good/great imagery/cinematography and music.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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Ocean didn't happen to say who he was going to heal and from what disease? I used to think that MC was suffering from impotence due to psychological trauma and would be treated, but it turns out that this is not the case. In all these years, he never visited a doctor to get rid of impotence. Moreover, in the early uncensored scenes we learn that the MC does not have impotence. There are no more sick people in this game.
If you still don't understand what this game is about after all these years, I doubt you'll ever figure it out. Story-focused games aren't your thing.
 

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So, just another continuity plot mistake due to the fact that the Dude keeps on rewriting what he's not supposed to rewrite:

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Previously, Amber tells Bella about the gala invitation after Nika leaves.

Now, in this final Season 1 release she tells her in front of Nika.

Therefore, this whole dialogue at the restaurant about the Holgersons' invitation doesn't make sense anymore (Ocean should have changed it as well).


This is what got after 5 WHOLE YEARS of endless rewritings. And yet I still see people whiteknighting this dev.

Oh man.
Otto, would you please name one person who has claimed that the current S1 version doesn't have any flaws - that includes new plot holes due to rewritings, awful model renders, mainly due to misuse of the sculpting tool, overuse of the stutters in dialogs and so on and on. The game has flaws, it's obvious.

Or what exactly is "whiteknighting" that you see the people doing? Is it whiteknighting if you can still find a lot of positive aspects about the game that make the game better than the majority of all the games available on F95?

Or are they the people who aren't calling the game awful and unplayable because of the flaws it still has?

Or are they simply the people who refuse to sink to a level where they go ape shit and call others "white knights" and "cocksuckers" simply because they find more positive for themselves about the game than all the negative?

Otto, do you know how many years J. R. R. Tolkien spent rewriting his story of the rings until he managed to get rid of the majority of plot holes throughout the story? And he had help doing that, I believe. Of course, the universe he created was also much larger, but he had the same kind of problems.

And thanks for pointing out this particular plot hole. I admit, I missed this one. I guess, so did Oceans.

Are you telling us that Oceans should spend a couple years more at rewriting the story, until he gets rid of all the flaws?

Also, could you please name a couple of games where you haven't been able to find any flaws at all? Here, at F95? I'd love to see and try them. I'd appreciate it very much.

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