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It turns out that normal-sized chapters should take him about half a year, so the full completion of the second season is mid-2027. At this rate, it will take 14-16 years to release all the planned chapters, requiring three years to produce the season
That is if this guy is still talking about taxes in 2027.
But it would still be better if he divided this chapter into two parts.
Wanna pull off an inception and tell him? Nah, it still wouldn't change his mind, would it?
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animation, cinematics' are both a waste of render time in my opinion. Not like you really get any sense of reality from them. A rich story and some awesome still's are all that is needed.
I disagree I really like those cinematics. Especially when there's Bella in it. Hehehe
But having these animations make this VN even more immersive you know. I mean, unless you are very much invested in the story and appreciate Ocean's vision, you will never experience that sensation.
it seems like a cult. Many there love Ocean. He can do whatever he wants about the game, delay updates or increase the value of the Patreon at the game's launch and they will accept it like little bitches.
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doesn't mean I can't share my opinion!
This is illegal. Shut up!
Why is it soo hard for him to give some sasha renders?:(
Because a certain iDIOT! thought doing this would make him give us more Sasha!
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Wanna pull off an inception and tell him?
Inception-schmenception, people are telling him this on Discord. I guess he thinks this is the best way to break in the new season and make SG adult again.

And if he also rolls out WiAB before SG, then no one will care about the several extra months of waiting. And if it happens before the end of the year... Sweet dreams...

And besides, aren't we submissive bitches, as one rebel boi with opinion wrote here yesterday? Throw us a few previews with Bella and we're happy until the next other week, right?
 

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He can do whatever he wants about the game, delay updates or increase the value of the Patreon at the game's launch and they will accept it like little bitches.
I think that´s true and it´s been discussed here sometimes, Ocean doesn´t listen to anyone, if you go and tell him as a Patreon that you don´t like how he changes the body shapes of characters he just say that this is his game and if you don´t like you can go, and he is right too.

I don´t know, i think Ocean sometimes should listen to his Patreons, maybe not in essential things like the plot or things that pretend to change his vision of the game but there are some things that need to be resolved, and listen the people who pay him would be good.

I´m okay with his work to be honest, that´s why i support him nowadays but i have my red lines, if he does again a rework or change things suddenly like in the first season (which i end up liking by the way) i´m out.

Anyway i think is difficult to find the perfect behavious here, this is his game and he has the right to do whatehever he wants, but on the other side... Yeah, Patreons can stop paying him if they don´t like his work but a little attention by his part could be good too, at least to his older Patreons, because if he starts listening all his Patreon the game would be a mess, there is a mayority who wants sex right now and woul let Nika fuck all the girls in the first chapter so it culd be dangerous too and harm the game, but the ones who support Ocean since the beginning... I think they deserve a word, if they don´t try to change essential things, of course, like the plot, characters behaviour and that stuff. Just things like the bodies shapes, i swear i hate when he change suddenly the boobs sizes of characters or things like that :LOL: And he doesn´t listen to the majority who thinks that´s not good!!!

there is a reason that Christopher Doyle is perhaps the most sought after cinematographer in the film industry (to give a clue, it's not because it brings nothing to a film).
What about Greig Fraser? I think he is fucking good too. And is Australian too, how curious.

It's a miracle that the college hasn't been shut down, porn logic I guess. Let's see: animal experiments, several cases of male and female professors having sex with students, the first women's basketball team bribing the principal with naughty pictures and probably sexual favors. Yeah, it looks like it's all good.:BootyTime:
The college of my dreams :love:
 

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But what kind of fight are we really talking about.

After all, Dwight likes Nika, he's more of a material for another homie for life next to Jeffrey, I really doubt that Nika will have any enemies in the first team, most of these guys are pretty cool, especially Aziz and Jazz, and Dex is Jeff's buddy, if we're going to look for enemies, we'll probably find them in rival colleges. Nika can only get a slap in the face from them if he starts acting like a total Man-Whore and becomes a professional heartbreaker and anyway, this protection probably only applies to Sasha.
 

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But what kind of fight are we really talking about.

After all, Dwight likes Nika, he's more of a material for another homie for life next to Jeffrey, I really doubt that Nika will have any enemies in the first team, most of these guys are pretty cool, especially Aziz and Jazz, and Dex is Jeff's buddy, if we're going to look for enemies, we'll probably find them in rival colleges. Nika can only get a slap in the face from them if he starts acting like a total Man-Whore and becomes a professional heartbreaker and anyway, this protection probably only applies to Sasha.
...because Ayua only needs Dwight's help when smashed :sneaky:

Most likely any fights will be with Sai, but early on, because they'll both be told to pull their heads in or they're off the team. The other place for fights is the racing community. It wouldn't make sense for Ayua to train him for nothing, surely there will be at least one scene with Nika displaying his Ayua sponsored moves.
 

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...because Ayua only needs Dwight's help when smashed :sneaky:

Most likely any fights will be with Sai, but early on, because they'll both be told to pull their heads in or they're off the team. The other place for fights is the racing community. It wouldn't make sense for Ayua to train him for nothing, surely there will be at least one scene with Nika displaying his Ayua sponsored moves.
I don't remember exactly who, I think Mila warned Nika that people from other colleges might try to seduce Nami to damage Nika reputation as a star basketball player. So those are also potential candidates. There are also Sonya's brothers and we don't know exactly what kind of threat Melanie Cerill is at this point if the prank Zara ordered went wrong. and of course the enemies that have not been discovered yet, which I am counting on being here, just as we know that we have them in WIAB, of course not the same ones
 
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I don't remember exactly who, I think Mila warned Nika that people from other colleges might try to seduce Nami to damage Nika reputation as a star basketball player. So those are also potential candidates. There are also Nadia's brothers and we don't know exactly what kind of threat Melanie Cerill is at this point if the prank Zara ordered went wrong. and of course the enemies that have not been discovered yet, which I am counting on being here, just as we know that we have them in WIAB, of course not the same ones
honestly, now that i think about it... this game does have some massive gossip girl (or insert random teenage drama show/shite) vibes.

and as RNasc4444 said before, switching the debate here from the WiaB thread, ty, btw...... this is pretty vanilla shit. but, you know, everyone came here to fap before we all realized there's no dicky no matter how much clicky.
and now that we're here for the story, and after replaying it a few times.. it's just bland af at times.
i still think it's a slow burn thing. ocean gonna surprise us by un-fucking-believably slowly making it more gritty and/or darker.
I HOPE. -.-

and yeah, the whole summer thing... SO traumatic.
boy needs to fuck some of the supermodels around him and stop being 15 and angsty. the grunge era is over, mofo! xD
 

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honestly, now that i think about it... this game does have some massive gossip girl (or insert random teenage drama show/shite) vibes.

and as RNasc4444 said before, switching the debate here from the WiaB thread, ty, btw...... this is pretty vanilla shit. but, you know, everyone came here to fap before we all realized there's no dicky no matter how much clicky.
and now that we're here for the story, and after replaying it a few times.. it's just bland af at times.
i still think it's a slow burn thing. ocean gonna surprise us by un-fucking-believably slowly making it more gritty and/or darker.
I HOPE. -.-

and yeah, the whole summer thing... SO traumatic.
boy needs to fuck some of the supermodels around him and stop being 15 and angsty. the grunge era is over, mofo! xD
Nasty Frat Boy late 90s early 00s era let's begin still angsty but different kind in more William Zane way
 
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honestly, now that i think about it... this game does have some massive gossip girl (or insert random teenage drama show/shite) vibes.

and as RNasc4444 said before, switching the debate here from the WiaB thread, ty, btw...... this is pretty vanilla shit. but, you know, everyone came here to fap before we all realized there's no dicky no matter how much clicky.
and now that we're here for the story, and after replaying it a few times.. it's just bland af at times.
i still think it's a slow burn thing. ocean gonna surprise us by un-fucking-believably slowly making it more gritty and/or darker.
I HOPE. -.-

and yeah, the whole summer thing... SO traumatic.
boy needs to fuck some of the supermodels around him and stop being 15 and angsty. the grunge era is over, mofo! xD
THe grunge era will never be over for me. It's a nice touch that Ocean mentioned AIC would be NIka's favourite band (at some point, can't remember where). I grew up on that, so seeing the dark moody renders, and thinking which song Nika's got for a sound track kinda give me my own internal existentialist playthrough :sneaky:

The only reason replaying it is boring is because you know what's coming up. No game's immune from that. If updates were faster, we'd be rushing to replay to remind ourselfs, but with the excitement of knowing there's stuff we don't know. I honestly don't care how long it takes for Ocean to get to fully lwd, but what I do care about is how long I hav to hold my breath for anything. Tomorrow would be a great day for a surprise, or the day after that :HideThePain:

The trauma hasn't been shown yet. We don't know what Nika was charged for, and whether that was related to Summer or to just violence. Elsa's way of avoiding talking about details suggests that everyone who knew about SUmmer knew how traumatic it was for Nika, but don't forget their own trauma. Does Elsa know what happened to her cousin? NIa doesn't know. We don't even know what the news was like, or if it was just the family relocates abroad. We've grown used to the atmosphere and forgetten how much of the game is unexplained.
 

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I don't remember exactly who, I think Mila warned Nika that people from other colleges might try to seduce Nami to damage Nika reputation as a star basketball player. So those are also potential candidates. There are also Nadia's brothers and we don't know exactly what kind of threat Melanie Cerill is at this point if the prank Zara ordered went wrong. and of course the enemies that have not been discovered yet, which I am counting on being here, just as we know that we have them in WIAB, of course not the same ones
It will be interesting see how the Nami aspect will unfold if you are on or off her path and if you loyal or manwhore. If it was another game a NTR route would be logic but not for SG. For now I think Sai is the imeddiate threat.

Nadia has brothers ? I am really curious to see Cerill, if she will be the antagonist she has been promised to be, and what role she will play in the story, she is connected to 3 LIs so far and I have a suspicion that she and Vanessa might be friends.


Regarding fights, I am sure there are gonna be some, but does not seems to be Nika go to problem solving. For him to go looking for fights I would find uncharacteristic, but if another party iniciates one he would not fled, just so far I can't think of anyone who would do it.
 

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THe grunge era will never...
The only reason ...
The trauma hasn't been...
hell i listened to AIC just the other day, i love grunge, i just don't like all the mental trauma too much anymore. i grew out of soul crushing misery and i don't really wanna go back. xD
the only band i can't listen to at all anymore is nirvana. like, enough, already, goddamn.

i didn't say boring, i said bland. like i know what's gonna happen and i still replay it, or can skip those scenes i don't like, but sometimes the story is a bit lackluster. not to mention all of this shite happens across like 3 days. how long are those damn days lol wtf?
then again, suspension of disbelief is a necessity in fiction so maybe i'm just being too serious about it. idk.

well... aren't you all master theorycrafters, tho, bob? :)
and this thread already got like 3 pages of responses in 2 days... so might as well continue! xD

i refuse to partake!!! - he says, partaking. fml. :cautious:
 
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hell i listened to AIC just the other day, i love grunge, i just don't like all the mental trauma too much anymore. i grew out of soul crushing misery and i don't really wanna go back. xD
the only band i can't listen to at all anymore is nirvana. like, enough, already, goddamn.

i didn't say boring, i said bland. like i know what's gonna happen and i still replay it, or can skip those scenes i don't like, but sometimes the story is a bit lackluster. not to mention all of this shite happens across like 3 days. how long are those damn days lol wtf?
then again, suspension of disbelief is a necessity in fiction so maybe i'm just being too serious about it. idk.

well... aren't you all master theorycrafters, tho, bob? :)
and this thread already got like 3 pages of responses in 2 days... so might as well continue! xD

i refuse to partake!!! - he says, partaking. fml. :cautious:
There's a lot of interesting theories from people, I think once an update drops in either thread, we'll have the use of spoilers again. Personally, I just like hearing what other people notice - some of it is easy to miss. You have to play every path to get all the different info about Nika or Bella or Nami or Zara. Most people who play the game just making choices to favour their chosen LI miss a lot of the details. Nia's a good example, some posters don't like her, so they didn't meet up with her and wondered why ch5 was short.

Even if I have preferred characters, I going to probably replay all the choices just to get an idea of all the plot points. Ocean likes hiding them where people don't look.
 

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Speaking of music, does anyone know if he wrote anything in blogs or Discord about arranging new tracks for the second season ?. I really like these chillstep tracks from Vesky, but when you know that you'll come across them in every third or fourth scene, it quickly becomes tiresome, especially when replaying. When you play with a mod that restores music with a wider selection of tracks, the whole thing is much more enjoyable and fresh to listen to, not to mention those beautifully matched songs to cinematics. I secretly dream that if he were to achieve commercial success even on a half scale similar to Pink, he would officially release a remastered version of the first season in which he would renew all the lost licenses.
 
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Speaking of music, does anyone know if he wrote anything in blogs or Discord about arranging new tracks for the second season ?. I really like these chillstep tracks from Vesky, but when you know that you'll come across them in every third or fourth scene, it quickly becomes tiresome, especially when replaying. When you play with a mod that restores music with a wider selection of tracks, the whole thing is much more enjoyable and fresh to listen to, not to mention those beautifully matched songs to cinematics. I secretly dream that if he were to achieve commercial success even on a half scale similar to Pink, he would officially release a remastered version of the first season in which he would renew all the lost licenses.
He's written a lot about it in the devlogs, easiest thing is to search for them and read up, in both WiaB and here.
 
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Hello,

Quite a few news.


I have probably had the most productive days in the past week, mostly because of a new system I implemented.

It's not just the system itself; I had a change in perception. I won't go into details, but it's a good thing.

The render queue has formed a union and I’m currently dealing with their demands. That boy hasn’t stopped running in a while… Actually, it did, I once forgot to start it before bed.


After almost two years and being burned out on working with others, I retook a leap of faith and recruited a coder.

Until now, it looks great, and he works on a per-project basis.
The priority right now is the phone and two of its apps.

Afterward, around 12 to 13 more apps will be added over time.

If this works out, it will take a massive burden off my shoulders.



Season 2 – Chapter 1 state.


I calculated to see how much of the update is left… By my last count, I had over 2000 renders done…

However, this time, I counted how many lines of dialogue were still left… And what’s left is double the size of Chapter 5… Of what’s left alone.


I don’t think this update was double the size of Chapter 5. It’s triple the size.

By my current estimations, the PC can’t match the quota to release before the end of the year. I see I render around 30 to 40 renders a night, provided I’m not rendering an animation. Those take up an entire night. (Not just SG.)

600 to 800 renders a month are for SG alone. By just looking at the script, I think I’m still missing 3000 to 4000 renders… and I think this update will be close to 6000 to 7000 renders.


I don’t want to cut it in half because the update flows perfectly throughout and ends at a point where it makes sense.

Just to put this in perspective, the final version of Season 1 has ~ 12000 still renders. (It would be More if you added the old renders that got removed.)

In terms of render count, this update alone comes close to 50% to 60% of the currently released entire Season 1 render count.

What the actual fuck… I’m so focused on just setting up scenes all day that I didn’t notice how big this update actually was.

Quite the challenge. I’ll take it.

So, going forward, there will be no more animation rendering to keep the PC baking renders. The animations will be done by the end of the update while I do postwork. I can do both at the same time.

If the thingy with the coder works out, those areas are taken care of.


By getting the workstation, I could probably raise the daily render output to 60 - 70 renders a day while simultaneously rendering animations on my current PC.

But I still don’t feel comfortable getting the workstation right now because I’m still waiting for the 2022 taxes, which should arrive next month.

After I have taken care of this, I will order the workstation.


Some previews: 4K attached
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Man, I wish I could show some of the incredible renders I have made... But they would just show too much.


Thankfully, my mind is in a good space, and I’m aware that creating such a behemoth of an update (and another big update for another game) is quite taxing.

With the new system I’m using for work, I will get through this without any significant difficulties, but I can say that this will be a one-time thing. (Maybe an update of this size to start a new season is cool, but it won’t be the new normal.)

Future updates are normal-sized updates of 2000 to 2500 renders.


- Ocean
I look forward to the update but how those ever-increasing update sizes do not alarm Ocean, I don't understand.

That being said, I'd like to share optimistic math for once. If Ocean can sustain 70 renders per day with his new workstation, he can achieve his quoted average of 2250 renders per update in only 32 days! If he can release every half chapter in 2 months or so, we could see the 30th chapter in 2029... not that far away anymore. But I'll believe it when I see it :)
 
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