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Oh that was just an initial idea when I'd stayed up too late and my brain was tired. It's not impossible, just really depends on what Ocean wants to do now. I'm more interested in the conversations here about who is a Zane in SG - before the assumption was that Willi was the Chadfather of Wollust. With the changes, Is Ayua still going to be a Zane? Will Leia and Willi be adopted and have the Zane name? Or are they the actual Zane's and Katie, Helen and Dylan will have a new name? Is Leia a LI still? All these things are now up for questioning, and we won't know until CH4 of WiaB or SG S2 Ch1 drops. WiaB will presumably cover it in some detail, while SG it'll be seeing what has changed about Ayua and Katie, what dialogue might Ocean push as a bug fix to SG S1?
Ayua IS a Zane and it's already been established. Wait a sec...
Fuck! You think Dylan is the father? Don't you?
You sick bastard! Hmm... could be, could be, not ruling out yet.

Also, the trio, all are adopted. Including Katie. Because Helen and Dylan couldn't conceive in the past, he did mention it a little in CH2 Or 3, so they had to be adopted. And I seriously don't think something like this is ...
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normal between a real mother and her son. Maybe I'm a bit outdated or this generation is fucking nuts!

One more thing Nika and Leia (and whoever her parents are like you mentioned(Mafia with snake tattoos)) are totally related.
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I mean they both have very much similar skin tones and dead inside. They're practically walking Zombies. They both edgy. Also look at their eyes. Eyes bit different I think? but good chances they're related.
I'm thinking more about what the functional aspect will look like, as this is primarily a decision forced on Ocean to create stability and future proof both games. It's simply wide open until we have a detailed explanation, and I doubt Ocean will do that in a devlog - it'd spoil the anticipation for an update if someone doesn't like the way it plays out.
C'mon mate, you can't give up here. Cook up whatever that comes to your mind, you know the law of average, yes? One of them will definitely end up being the canon one. Winner gets a price, so get on it.
 

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While browsing old devlogs, a thought occurred to me.

Since Ocean introduces a new dialogue window modeled on RPG games in which we have the opportunity to ask for additional information, claiming that Nika has recovered enough that he is starting to be interested in other people.
So what do you think ?, will Ocean surprise us in the future and introduce free-roaming sections to the game?
This, together with the introduction of the smartphone function, looks to me like preparing the mechanics that will be needed for this, and after all, Ocean can always say that Nika is healing well enough that he wants to start going to parties or other gatherings and talking to people



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I doubt it, afair he overdesigned it as usual, and it's just a simple idea to highlight important or secondary options in different colors. Given Ocean's well-known love for coding, I doubt he'll add free roaming anytime soon, even if he wants to. But I don't rememeber he's ever mentioned anything about free roams in dev logs or on Discord.
 

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Ayua IS a Zane and it's already been established. Wait a sec...
Fuck! You think Dylan is the father? Don't you?
You sick bastard! Hmm... could be, could be, not ruling out yet.

Also, the trio, all are adopted. Including Katie. Because Helen and Dylan couldn't conceive in the past, he did mention it a little in CH2 Or 3, so they had to be adopted. And I seriously don't think something like this is ...
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normal between a real mother and her son. Maybe I'm a bit outdated or this generation is fucking nuts!

One more thing Nika and Leia (and whoever her parents are like you mentioned(Mafia with snake tattoos)) are totally related.
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I mean they both have very much similar skin tones and dead inside. They're practically walking Zombies. They both edgy. Also look at their eyes. Eyes bit different I think? but good chances they're related.

C'mon mate, you can't give up here. Cook up whatever that comes to your mind, you know the law of average, yes? One of them will definitely end up being the canon one. Winner gets a price, so get on it.
- Nothing sick about Dylan being the father of Miru's baby, if Willi's shooting blanks Ayua's still gotta arriv somehow...
- Or Ocean simply changes her surname to fit the new back story. Or He changes Katie's family name to Cyrus, or....
- Everyone is adopted, everyone is shooting blanks, and storks are real. I mean Seigbert's real, Gefritzel's real, the racconn and spiders know what's going down in WOllust town, so ...a stork is 100% normal and compliant with every ToS I've seen. I mean there are those books in libraries right? Storks are birds beeing useful!
- the big take away is that if a LI is related to Willi (and so also related to Leia), Nika is not Zane, but most definitely Cyrus to avoid any confusion about who did what to do. ToS.

I kinda answered abstract, as people are probably bored of me talking about it, there's a lot of thoughts about it since July. Some people are still in denial that Ocean's decided that, most of us are just waiting and wondering with each new devlog render, hoping for the hidden clue that'll link it all together.

The other takeaway is:
- Ocean pretty much has to overtly say things that'll clear up misconceptions about parents. So the next two chapters will have plot to make sure everything is clear and future proof.
 

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The thing that has always convinced me the most in my assumptions that Leia is Nika mother has always been the color of their eyes. I am particularly convinced of this by the scene when we first visit Bella's house and go to ask Amber for a glass of water. The mysterious woman who is talking to Amber comes up to us and tells us not to close our eyes. Additionally, it is hard for me to believe that it happened so accidentally. As for me, for it to be credible, there had to be information circulating in these social circles that a person who is the child of one of the local big shots came to Wollust and the feature that distinguishes him is the similarity of his eyes to his parent. What are the chances that this woman would pay attention to the eyes of an anonymous boy she saw for the first time if she had not previously intended to look for such eyes. And the only person from these social circles with such expressive green eyes that comes to mind is Leia
 
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Sorry for being a bother, I really don't mean to interrupt the family tree analysis. Just a quick question. Do we have any indication of what Ocean is currently working on? Is it gonna be Wiab or SG S2?
Yes I've tried searching the thread for "Update" but there are 50+ post results and they are not ordered by date.
 

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While browsing old devlogs, a thought occurred to me.

Since Ocean introduces a new dialogue window modeled on RPG games in which we have the opportunity to ask for additional information, claiming that Nika has recovered enough that he is starting to be interested in other people.
So what do you think ?, will Ocean surprise us in the future and introduce free-roaming sections to the game?
This, together with the introduction of the smartphone function, looks to me like preparing the mechanics that will be needed for this, and after all, Ocean can always say that Nika is healing well enough that he wants to start going to parties or other gatherings and talking to people



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I think the choices are more to build in a walkthrough for people who prefer that kind of style. Maybe some choices won't be available if you haven't chose the right options earlier, so you will know to reload. I don't think there's any need for free roam just because he's making choices a significant part of the roadmap. The optional choices will be phone driven, but you won't be searching through the kitchen to the living room to the mall to find the trigger to advance - they choices will simply be part of th dialogu offering branching. That's my take anyway - you won't be able to get off that couch and talk to anyone else in the building, those dialogue choices will simply lead you to the next scene based on your choices.

Sorry for being a bother, I really don't mean to interrupt the family tree analysis. Just a quick question. Do we have any indication of what Ocean is currently working on? Is it gonna be Wiab or SG S2?
Yes I've tried searching the thread for "Update" but there are 50+ post results and they are not ordered by date.
He's working on both, based on the devlog for SG last Thursday, it looks like SG will be some time next year, maybe March? I think WiaB will likely be some time over the holidays. THe most recent WiaB log suggests Ocean's already thinging about the steam side of things (the cinematic for the store) but is also pretty much just churning away. We'll know more about WiaB this Thursday, then SG the following Thursday.

Thursdays are useful days to check here and WiaB's thread, alternate days for the different games.
 
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- Nothing sick about Dylan being the father of Miru's baby, if Willi's shooting blanks Ayua's still gotta arriv somehow...
You see, Miru is the reason I breathe, she is the relief for my heart pain, the oil to my engine and the urn for my ashes. The only reason I play WIAB for. The rest don't interest me much. So yeah, that line is a bit subjective from my part, Sorry mate!
 

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You see, Miru is the reason I breathe, she is the relief for my heart pain, the oil to my engine and the urn for my ashes. The only reason I play WIAB for. The rest don't interest me much. So yeah, that line is a bit subjective from my part, Sorry mate!
Until she takes off those ugly nipple rings, you are not allowed to like her. As they often say here - PERIOD! :Kappa:
 

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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

We will still have the same questions and probably even more in chapter 16
Normally I'd agree, but the volatile nature of the change requires clarity as it's Ocean future proofing the games specifically. If it's not stated, the change doesn't have an effect that would make the change worth the effort. We will certainly have more than enough questions by ch 16, agreed.
 

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Normally I'd agree, but the volatile nature of the change requires clarity as it's Ocean future proofing the games specifically. If it's not stated, the change doesn't have an effect that would make the change worth the effort. We will certainly have more than enough questions by ch 16, agreed.
I doubt it strongly, maybe some offhand comment in wiab but i dont expect anything else clarifiying anything for quite some time.

I wouldnt even be surprised about back and forths like Nika finding an old ID oh himself with the Zane name only to meet his father Mr. Cyrus later on to make everything more and more confusing :ROFLMAO:

Maybe there will be a new message in the opening ala "No characters are related" lol
 
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Be an instant drop for me if he does. I'm the opposite of Nasc, I follow this purely because it's an extra to WIAB...I don't overly care for it much as a standalone VN. Adding free-roam, I'd just delete it and unfollow this thread immediately.

I gotta say I'm at the point where my excitment for a new update of either game pales in comparison to my excitment of seeing your reaction to the changes Ocean will introduce to WiAB. And now the possibility of freeroams as well :ROFLMAO:

Until she takes off those ugly nipple rings, you are not allowed to like her. As they often say here - PERIOD! :Kappa:
LIES! SLANDER! :LOL:
No one claimed you are not allowed to like them! Some of us do claim that her piercings and Leia's pepperoni slice nipples aren't the most visually appealling... In Miru's case it's a shame that those things (imo) drag her down from a 9.5 to like the lowest of 8's at best :cool:
 

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LIES! SLANDER! :LOL:
No one claimed you are not allowed to like them! Some of us do claim that her piercings and Leia's pepperoni slice nipples aren't the most visually appealling... In Miru's case it's a shame that those things (imo) drag her down from a 9.5 to like the lowest of 8's at best :cool:
Actually, it's a complex case: the damn rings only appear in Blender renders, in the game she wears little nipple barbells or something, but not the rings. I'm not sure about them, after all they looked good on Amber... :unsure:
 
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Actually, it's a complex case: the damn rings only appear in Blender renders, in the game she wears little nipple barbells or something, but not the rings. I'm not sure about them, after all they looked good on Amber... :unsure:
Amber Rocks those barbells!

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She can also ask Miss Marla to tell the BB coaches that the MC will be working out with barbells for part of his trip to the cabin and he will get Plenty of exercise - the Best kind of excused absence from school... :sneaky:

Willy does not have to work to properly exercise with those barbells... once he does - the workout gets even better!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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I doubt it strongly, maybe some offhand comment in wiab but i dont expect anything else clarifiying anything for quite some time.

I wouldnt even be surprised about back and forths like Nika finding an old ID oh himself with the Zane name only to meet his father Mr. Cyrus later on to make everything more and more confusing :ROFLMAO:

Maybe there will be a new message in the opening ala "No characters are related" lol
I'm pretty sure that Nika is the son of someone important in WIAB, his parents aren't dead and Cyrus isn't his real last name.
 
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