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dameromexxx

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Did I say that the killer is after Nika on Leia's orders? And why did you decide that Vika is random? She is one of the most important figures in the game and the first attempt on her life happened several years before in the pool. Someone is methodically trying to get rid of her.
Considering that Officer Cefoe shares the beauty of her smile with Willem, and the first killer is her younger sister

I think you may be right.
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BobTheDuck

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Did I say that the killer is after Nika on Leia's orders? And why did you decide that Vika is random? She is one of the most important figures in the game and the first attempt on her life happened several years before in the pool. Someone is methodically trying to get rid of her.
Wait, so your saying that Leia saw Vic as a problem while she was a teenager, before Nika had a problem, and sent another teenager (Melanie) to drown her, when Leia has all those thugs she employed for the club? That one teenager is such a threat to future Nika that Leia will kill a child with a child assasin? Wild.
 

yapyap777

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Wait, so your saying that Leia saw Vic as a problem while she was a teenager, before Nika had a problem, and sent another teenager (Melanie) to drown her, when Leia has all those thugs she employed for the club? That one teenager is such a threat to future Nika that Leia will kill a child with a child assasin? Wild.
it is indeed a mindblown...
 

Maviarab

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i don't get this. i think emilio has nothing to do about Vic's car accident. can u explain more?
Are you writing this seriously or are you joking? How could this mysterious assassin observing Nika on behalf of Leia possibly know that this anonymous girl he met on his way to get some buns would pose some kind of threat to her plans?
Wait, so your saying that Leia saw Vic as a problem while she was a teenager, before Nika had a problem, and sent another teenager (Melanie) to drown her, when Leia has all those thugs she employed for the club? That one teenager is such a threat to future Nika that Leia will kill a child with a child assasin? Wild.
Guys...guys...new account...first post...suspiciously similar name to another crazy coke snorting fool who posts in here? (or did...I dunno..he on my ignore list).
 
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yapyap777

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Did I say that the killer is after Nika on Leia's orders? And why did you decide that Vika is random? She is one of the most important figures in the game and the first attempt on her life happened several years before in the pool. Someone is methodically trying to get rid of her.
i can't tell yet if Vic is an important character to the main story, because i still don't know if their mother was involve in Wiab . all i see about her now is a potential lover of Nika.
 

BobTheDuck

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i can't tell yet if Vic is an important character to the main story, because i still don't know if their mother was involve in Wiab . all i see about her now is a potential lover of Nika.
The Frohns were in the old WiaB before it was reworked, just a cameo. It's likely they'll be involved at some point, but they were described by Leia as boring people (they were accountants or merchant bankers or something). Maja and Vic are more interesting.

From memory, Mrs Frohn looked a bit like Monica does now, similar model.

From Noji remembering a couple called the Frohn's and her reaction, the Frohn's weren't as boring as mentioned in the old WiaB, but we'll find out some time in the future if they're going to be part of the game, rather than wallpaper.

Edit: Also, I believe even if you're not on her path, she'll be an important part of the story regardless.
 

yapyap777

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I'd say part of Nika's self-improvement is thanks to her.
I agree.
The Frohns were in the old WiaB before it was reworked, just a cameo. It's likely they'll be involved at some point, but they were described by Leia as boring people (they were accountants or merchant bankers or something). Maja and Vic are more interesting.

From memory, Mrs Frohn looked a bit like Monica does now, similar model.

From Noji remembering a couple called the Frohn's and her reaction, the Frohn's weren't as boring as mentioned in the old WiaB, but we'll find out some time in the future if they're going to be part of the game, rather than wallpaper.

Edit: Also, I believe even if you're not on her path, she'll be an important part of the story regardless.
thank you so much for always explaining it well. english is not my native language so I always play the game on repeat so i can fully understand.
 
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Whitecat2

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Wait, so your saying that Leia saw Vic as a problem while she was a teenager, before Nika had a problem, and sent another teenager (Melanie) to drown her, when Leia has all those thugs she employed for the club? That one teenager is such a threat to future Nika that Leia will kill a child with a child assasin? Wild.
Unfortunately, what you have in your head is wild. You have completely distorted what I wrote.
1. Vicky and Maya are extremely special, although there are many "special" girls in the game. Vicky's birth itself was undesirable for Leia.
2. I think I mentioned that neither Marla nor Melanie had anything to do with the Vicky incidents.
3. I did not say that Vicky is a threat to Nicky's future. On the contrary, I wrote that she is a "cure" for him. She is a threat to Leia's plans.
 

yapyap777

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Unfortunately, what you have in your head is wild. You have completely distorted what I wrote.
1. Vicky and Maya are extremely special, although there are many "special" girls in the game. Vicky's birth itself was undesirable for Leia.
2. I think I mentioned that neither Marla nor Melanie had anything to do with the Vicky incidents.
3. I did not say that Vicky is a threat to Nicky's future. On the contrary, I wrote that she is a "cure" for him. She is a threat to Leia's plans.
that's why u think summer is gone and she planned to make victoria gone too?
 

BobTheDuck

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Unfortunately, what you have in your head is wild. You have completely distorted what I wrote.
1. Vicky and Maya are extremely special, although there are many "special" girls in the game. Vicky's birth itself was undesirable for Leia.
2. I think I mentioned that neither Marla nor Melanie had anything to do with the Vicky incidents.
3. I did not say that Vicky is a threat to Nicky's future. On the contrary, I wrote that she is a "cure" for him. She is a threat to Leia's plans.
1. Well, were is your proof, based on the text of the game?
2. In the game it specifically mentions Melanie tried to drown Vic.

d "Victoria, does the name 'Melanie Ceril' mean anything to you?"
$ play_playlist(playlist_Ch4x5A)
pause
scene ae52 with dssr
"She nods a few times."
scene ae53 with dssr
d "Your expression tells me that she's bad news."
scene ae54 with dssa
v "She almost drowned me in middle school."
scene ae55 with dssa
d "What?"
scene ae54 with dssa
v "We had a school trip to a waterpark and she held my head underwater until Zara intervened."

3. That's what I said you said. That Vic was such a threat to Leia's plans as a teen, before Nika needed a cure because Melanie tried to drown Vic as a child at a waterpark, in middle school. Nika was going out with SUmmer in high school years later.

I misspoke when I said about Vic being a threat to Nika before she knew him, I meant a threat to Leia's plans for Nika before Nika knew Summer...
 

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But remember that Nika is the trans character - the process of going back in time turned him into Summer who became Marla. That's what Marla wants to do therapy with Nika, to prevent him from going back in time to rescue Summer, which started this whole sordid affair.
But remember that Nika is the trans character - the process of going back in time turned him into Summer who became Marla. That's what Marla wants to do therapy with Nika, to prevent him from going back in time to rescue Summer, which started this whole sordid affair.
Not going too off-topic but there is a decent movie with this exactly premisse. I think is called Predestination.

I think the our favorite restaurant of fancy theories needs two types of tables for LSD users and non-LSD users.:)
I don't know man, wild takes are fun. You said that is LSD tripping but there is not a proof that is impossible.
 

Dr.TSoni

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That is because you are not thinking enough. The mysterious person that Emilio is talking about is Nami from the future who traveled back in time and caused Vic accident because with out it Nika would have died. Now why future Nami looks like Bella ? Because the throuple path is cannon and Bella and Nami merged in a single person called Nalla. It is pretty obvious honestly.
Out with Nalla's Christmas album
 

Penfold Mole

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Guys...guys...new account...first post...suspiciously similar name to another crazy coke snorting fool who posts in here? (or did...I dunno..he on my ignore list).
You're talking about White cat6, right? Before you mentioned that it's a brand new account now, I thought it was White cat6 with another one of his tinfoil hat theories, I just now realized that it's a completely new white cat who thought that being glad about someone being well is the same thing as being glad about someone being still alive :sneaky:.
As I've said before, these white cats are using some bad translator or have a noticeable language barrier that makes it seem as if they're playing a completely different game than anyone else.

I never ignored him though, it's way too entertaining to read about his wild theories (y):LOL:

PS. Outta reactions for today
 

HaGriDos

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What the hell happened to this game man...
I played it last time around the time when chap 3 was freshly released, game changed a lot... unfortunately for worse.I know about the steam release and a lot of things being cut out or censored,i installed the uncut taboo patch but its still not the same...
And the music... right now all this game has is some generic ass copyright-free shit,i miss the good music.
Before the steam it was a masterpiece,now its just OK,i will play the S1 to the end but im not coming back for S2.
I hope the earnings from steam justify butchering one of the best VN's out there...
 

RNasc4444

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What the hell happened to this game man...
Word on the street is Ocean went on an ayahuasca retreat to commune with the spirits a few years back... Lost his edge. Became just another bland normie making slop for the masses. Traded his artistic integrity for the €€€. Just another cog in the machine...you know?

Anyway that's what I heard...who can tell for sure but Ocean himself?
 

John972

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Unfortunately, what you have in your head is wild. You have completely distorted what I wrote.
1. Vicky and Maya are extremely special, although there are many "special" girls in the game. Vicky's birth itself was undesirable for Leia.
2. I think I mentioned that neither Marla nor Melanie had anything to do with the Vicky incidents.
3. I did not say that Vicky is a threat to Nicky's future. On the contrary, I wrote that she is a "cure" for him. She is a threat to Leia's plans.
Victoria is Leia. Leia was long feeling the heat due to her criminal underworld activities, with numerous death threats from rival gangs and the police closing in. It was then that Leia hatched a plan to undergo EXTREME cosmetic surgery to take over the persona of Victoria Frohn - a child who died in infancy. Thus, she could continue to control her empire from the shadows, while getting employees, friends, and family to drop her name ("Leia") occasionally, so not to arouse suspicion.

Leia/Victoria was extremely pissed that Ocean deleted all incest from WIAB so she thought she could get back at Ocean by seducing and bedding Nika - the son she had with William.

All was well until someone in Leia/Victoria's organisation ratted her out to her enemies, who then hired contract killer Marla (who uses a teaching position as a cover) to terminate Leia/Victoria with extreme prejudice.

Only Marla botched the job - her first failed contract ever. Marla, normally ice-cold and calculating, is now plagued with self-doubt and seeks therapy.

Meanwhile, Leia/Victoria is having to formulate a new plan, now that her cover is blown. To buy time, she feigns paralysis and hopes this will make her enemies pause.

How do I know all this? I think it's obvious. Both Leia and Victoria have really big boobies.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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Victoria is Leia. Leia was long feeling the heat due to her criminal underworld activities, with numerous death threats from rival gangs and the police closing in. It was then that Leia hatched a plan to undergo EXTREME cosmetic surgery to take over the persona of Victoria Frohn - a child who died in infancy. Thus, she could continue to control her empire from the shadows, while getting employees, friends, and family to drop her name ("Leia") occasionally, so not to arouse suspicion.

Leia/Victoria was extremely pissed that Ocean deleted all incest from WIAB so she thought she could get back at Ocean by seducing and bedding Nika - the son she had with William.

All was well until someone in Leia/Victoria's organisation ratted her out to her enemies, who then hired contract killer Marla (who uses a teaching position as a cover) to terminate Leia/Victoria with extreme prejudice.

Only Marla botched the job - her first failed contract ever. Marla, normally ice-cold and calculating, is now plagued with self-doubt and seeks therapy.

Meanwhile, Leia/Victoria is having to formulate a new plan, now that her cover is blown. To buy time, she feigns paralysis and hopes this will make her enemies pause.

How do I know all this? I think it's obvious. Both Leia and Victoria have really big boobies.
If this isn't the plot of season 2, I will be very disappointed with Ocean
 
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