- Oct 3, 2018
- 168
- 956
Shit happens
... anyway thanks for the repost
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Last edited:
- Thread starter 7767
- Start date
... anyway thanks for the repost
Personally, when I'm hardware shopping the second thing I look at is the warranty. I extensively modify my hardware and if that is going to void my warranty, I won't buy their product. And I can guaranty you, even at Ocean's scale of hardware, such warranties exist. So I'd hope that he learns from such events and acts in a manner to prevent such delays from reoccurring.
<Edited to add that the reason myself and most of my coworkers have since got so heavily involved in various mod scenes is bc of our experience on the industrial level. Our company uses heavily modified equipment originally designed for medical use and completely modified them for our own purposes bc such machines simply do NOT exist. Simply, as in all things, you get what you pay for.>
There is too much whining about some games taking too long between updates. Yet there are many fair complaints. There are a billion excuses that we're given and every single one of them should be incorporated into the planned release schedule. And the most egregious cases always come from these full-time devs. And these devs need to start paying attention bc there are a lot of new devs on the come-up releasing similar quality of content in significantly less time. At one point guys like DPC and Ocean were so far ahead of the competition that there was no competition. We saw a surge during the pandemic, but now we're seeing the people that were inspired during that surge and many of them have shown actual talent.
Last edited:
- Jan 9, 2020
- 219
- 596
- Jan 9, 2020
- 219
- 596
- Dec 5, 2020
- 2,846
- 19,152
I can only suggest you to read the Ocean's dev log again.
Personally, I don't see how your examples of an individual or a large company that needs a customized hardware relate to him and his case of leasing the workstation to reduce his business costs. And frankly, I'm not very interested in discussing it, for the same reason as the part of the post below.
Although it's hopeless, I'll try to explain it as simply as possible.
Here is Ocean, who makes a game that I consider to be the best among AVNs. I can launch the game at any time and see with my own eyes the results of Ocean's work, what his experience, knowledge, work processes and hardware allowed him to create. I can open the latest dev log, which is posted regularly, and read about the current development status, plans, issues, and see previews of the upcoming release.
And there are you, and all the content that is available to me is your posts about how the Ocean does everything wrong and how he should do everything differently.
Forgive me, please, but I am probably inclined to trust the results and not someone's reasoning about how it should be.
Everything I really wanted to write in response to this does not pass my new non-aggression/tolerance filter.
Let me assure you that neither I nor my buddies on this site are in any way affiliated with that anonymous group of excuse recipients you refer as "we." So I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not discussing it.
Advice for advice. Post all this on the Ocean's Discord, there is a suggestions channel.
Personally, I see only good in careful planning of work, strict release schedules and time/cost estimates. Maybe Ocean just doesn't know about it, and you will open his eyes and "we" will all benefit from it.
In the end, there are different groups of people on this thread - these include:
$ supporters who can, at any time vote with their $ and stop supporting Ocean.
People here taking SG for free, then complaining about it.
I liken the second group to dumpster diving for food then complaining to the chef that you did not get the meal you wanted in a timely fashion/with the appetizers you desired/there was no wine served.
These can be legitimate complaints for someone who is actually Paying for the meal, and a legitimate reason to stop paying for food at this establishment if the chef is indeed not providing the meal and service promised by his establishment.
NO chef owes dumpster divers the meal of their choice/the table of their choosing/the wine they prefer/etc.
I am quite thankful that Ocean deleted his F95 account and is no longer wasting his time 'entertaining' the complaints of those here taking SG for free.
His time is better spent creating SG and WIAB.
For those here who simply want to find Something to complain about - have at it.
There will be a new Dev Log posted here in the next few days - I'm sure some of you will find Something to complain about in that Dev Log...
Shocking... I know...
Cheers!!
$ supporters who can, at any time vote with their $ and stop supporting Ocean.
People here taking SG for free, then complaining about it.
I liken the second group to dumpster diving for food then complaining to the chef that you did not get the meal you wanted in a timely fashion/with the appetizers you desired/there was no wine served.
These can be legitimate complaints for someone who is actually Paying for the meal, and a legitimate reason to stop paying for food at this establishment if the chef is indeed not providing the meal and service promised by his establishment.
NO chef owes dumpster divers the meal of their choice/the table of their choosing/the wine they prefer/etc.
I am quite thankful that Ocean deleted his F95 account and is no longer wasting his time 'entertaining' the complaints of those here taking SG for free.
His time is better spent creating SG and WIAB.
For those here who simply want to find Something to complain about - have at it.
There will be a new Dev Log posted here in the next few days - I'm sure some of you will find Something to complain about in that Dev Log...
Shocking... I know...
Cheers!!
- Jan 9, 2020
- 219
- 596
You forgot your group ! .In the end, there are different groups of people on this thread - these include:
$ supporters who can, at any time vote with their $ and stop supporting Ocean.
People here taking SG for free, then complaining about it.
I liken the second group to dumpster diving for food then complaining to the chef that you did not get the meal you wanted in a timely fashion/with the appetizers you desired/there was no wine served.
These can be legitimate complaints for someone who is actually Paying for the meal, and a legitimate reason to stop paying for food at this establishment if the chef is indeed not providing the meal and service promised by his establishment.
NO chef owes dumpster divers the meal of their choice/the table of their choosing/the wine they prefer/etc.
I am quite thankful that Ocean deleted his F95 account and is no longer wasting his time 'entertaining' the complaints of those here taking SG for free.
His time is better spent creating SG and WIAB.
For those here who simply want to find Something to complain about - have at it.
There will be a new Dev Log posted here in the next few days - I'm sure some of you will find Something to complain about in that Dev Log...
Shocking... I know...
Cheers!!
"the ones that like to complain about the complainers"
- Jul 13, 2022
- 76
- 353
this thread is better than the actual game, with the dickriding you see here it sure makes up for the lack of scenes in the game.
Your point being? If patrons choose to just stop supporting without complaining or keep supporting but say nothing and the only complaints come from pirates, are they automatically wrong just because they didn't pay, even if at least some of their complaints are valid and objective? Since when is what's right and wrong decided by money?
Stupid comparison since dumpster divers should obviously have no expectations and definitely don't do that.
This type of mentality...
So if someone who lives on the street receives the same meal that someone just payed for, and complained about, with the chef realising they messed up, this person doesn't have the right to complain because they got the food for free right? Also the meal you pay for is not the same as the one you'd find in a dumpster and in SG's case both supporters and pirates get the same version...so again stupid comparison.Who said they did?
Maybe just his official account. Also, someone wrote here some time ago how Ocean's discord is "cancer" when it comes to asking "inconvenient" questions with people getting banned. This thread seems no different, except for the banning part.
If the dev gives people reasons to complain then blame the dev not the people.
- Dec 5, 2020
- 2,846
- 19,152
- Dec 24, 2018
- 2,173
- 12,898
I mean, all of us suck at some point. How many people here are filled with righteous idignation that Ocean is missing a cable? Fuck it, Ocean just wants to open the workstation boxes and dive into his nerd heaven that he'll be paying off for a while, and people are thinking it's a conspiracy.
Dude just wants his cable that he'll be paying off with the rest.
Find a game to pass time if your balls are so blue
- Oct 3, 2019
- 839
- 1,916
Ocean is Ocean and any discussion over his ethics, work, weakeness, shortcomings and bad luck is pointless as he is not a member of this site and can not hear them. I find the discussion of the game much more interesting than its Dev. So, as we are heading to the later stages of development what are you guys predictions of what we may see ? As well as your expectations ? I am really looking forward a Nojiko talk and Ayua sparing session.
- Feb 1, 2017
- 894
- 2,085
Odds on the data transfer to the new workstation goes catastrophically wrong?
What image? His image is hurt as it is.
In case he finds any issue they still can argue with him cause with no warranty he can`t do shit. If he is so carefull why use B2B in the first place...
Who is?
In Ocean's case it seems like he's either very unlucky or he's just trolling.
Find a game to pass time if your balls are so blue
It's Ocean so I wouldn't be surprised.
Are you sure about that?
Me too.
Sexualized scenes with Nojiko for no reason...again.
-More LI paths opening, preferably the rest of them.
-Less screentime with LIs who Nika is not involved with
-Bella's sister waking up.
-Elsa and Nika talking about Summer.
-Nika finding Summer either with Emilio's help or through the Aurora app
-Marla helping Maja with Victoria
-The possibility to convince Nia to stop being a camgirl without being on her path
-More mystery involving Sasha, hers and Nami's earrings, her redhead friend
-Sonya moving in with Nika to "escape" her brothers
-Victoria to start walking again (though it may take a bit more time)
-Cindy becoming a LI
-Nika inviting Emilia over (once they get back home)...for a cup of tea
-Katie (which I also wouldn't mind becoming a LI) and Nika scenes with her telling him something important
-Nika finding out something about Katie/Nojiko/his parents at the book club
-less sports/training unless it's with Zara or another LI
- Dec 24, 2018
- 2,173
- 12,898
This is a good list:-More LI paths opening, preferably the rest of them.
-Less screentime with LIs who Nika is not involved with
-Bella's sister waking up.
-Elsa and Nika talking about Summer.
-Nika finding Summer either with Emilio's help or through the Aurora app
-Marla helping Maja with Victoria
-The possibility to convince Nia to stop being a camgirl without being on her path
-More mystery involving Sasha, hers and Nami's earrings, her redhead friend
-Sonya moving in with Nika to "escape" her brothers
-Victoria to start walking again (though it may take a bit more time)
-Cindy becoming a LI
-Nika inviting Emilia over (once they get back home)...for a cup of tea
-Katie (which I also wouldn't mind becoming a LI) and Nika scenes with her telling him something important
-Nika finding out something about Katie/Nojiko/his parents at the book club
-less sports/training unless it's with Zara or another LI
- there will likely be a couple of late LI paths Ocean will throw in a later season as disruptors, so undoubtably we won't get them all.
- all th LI's will have their canon screentime, they are not LI's just because they are single babes looking for a revived pocket rocket - they are LI's because of their role in the canon story. I imagine that we'll only get to skip the non canon parts. But as Ocean said on discord:
- which will be first to wake? Nika's PP or Bella's sister? I don't think it'll happen before Nika's cabin trip - Amber wouldn't leave town after comatose daughter wakes up after such a long time.
- or just searching. If Ocean puts her as accessible at this point, NIka's going to just drop everything and work out how to find her. As much as I don't like the idea of him finding Summer, if it happens, it'll be around season 4 once NIka's fully invested in a LI, and has the conflict of having given his virginity to someone other than Summer.
- Marla helping Maja and Vic? I like that idea. Never considered that angle - I don't know if it's on the cards, but this would be a great way for Marla to spend time around Nika without it seeming forced.
- Nia, as per Ocean on discord:
But there's no indication you have to be on her path to discourage her.
- Yes, please - more steps deeper into the web of mysterious connections. And stalker cheeto is great.
- I can't see her family allowing that. My guess is those kinds of situations will take time to develop, maybe someone will leave the shared house as Sonya starts getting closer to Nika?
- Vic walkingI can't imagine before the end of Season 2 - it's also mean less of your great idea of Marla helping Maja care for Vic.
- I'd quote your second point
I think she's only intended as lewdable, and possibly only via the tabletop games.- Or Nika going to a gentlemen's club with her to find out things about Noji and about his past away from Noji's stare?
- I naturally think more Katie is good, but Katie's WiaB - why bother making so many other LI's only to have Katie block them all with her superiority?
- Yes, very likely. But later in the season. We're on the night after they got home to find rodents. I doubt the book club will meet again until the next Saturday at the soonest. Bar opening is on TUesday, and we won't get that in the next update.
- Looks like plenty of sports training renders with Zara. So far, what sports training renders haven't had Zara or a LI? Gym, Bella, or Sasha, or Nami/Nia, or Mila. First basketball game, Bella dominates Nika. Second, NIka dominates Zara. Tennis? Nami, Zara and Vanessa, Swimming? Nami. Training for the team? Zara. We've already seen previews of Nami playing more tennis and Zara in workout gear.
Things I'm looking forward to that you haven't mentioned:
- the fighty fight with Ayua, where we find out more about her relatives, probably inlcuding Adrianna.
- what the antagonism in the first chapter will be - what things will be going wrong? We've seen no renders of conflict really, just everyone hanging out feeling swell, NIka with XYZ LI, probably from all the different paths. I want to know if the Holgerson thing will be the main driver of external tension, whether the rumours of NIka are going to play a bigger role, whether Kate will be making moves on Nika to get at Bella.
- Maja. I mean, there are renders of her, I'm already happy. Context will be even greater.
- the context of Sasha's photo shoot/art class thing.
- Aug 16, 2022
- 1,201
- 4,949
Wtf?!?! Seriously? Out of the hundreds (maybe more?) of AVN's you play, SG is the absolute best in your opinion? I knew you liked the game but damn... Fair enough. Can't argue personal taste.
Not a criticism btw, just legit surprise...
How new is this damn filter of yours exactly?!?!?! 'Cause most of what I remember getting from you is passive-aggression, aggression-aggression and never ending unabashed sarcasm
Bad analogy imo, since it implies that people who don't directly support Ocean are only getting leftovers from the tables/dumpsters. That is incorrect. We are actually getting the full course here, either straight from the kitchen or the table when it arrives. Therefore "dine & dash" would have been a better analogy.
Generally speaking I agree with your post but you seem to be implying that you can't have "legitimate complaints" unless you pay for the meal. That is blatantly false. You can have legitimate complaints as long as you taste the food. That's the only requirement.
Now whether the Chef should give a single fuck about the opinion of someone who dines and dashes is up to you. I wouldn't! And I fully support Ocean in not giving a single fuck about what I say about his games. The people he should listen to and care about are his subs. No question about that.
- Dec 5, 2020
- 2,846
- 19,152
