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This game had such potential it's really a shame that none of us will live long enough to see how it ends
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There are, IMO, legitimate complaints about Any AVN, and these are independent of status as a $ supporter.Wtf?!?! Seriously? Out of the hundreds (maybe more?) of AVN's you play, SG is the absolute best in your opinion? I knew you liked the game but damn... Fair enough. Can't argue personal taste.
Not a criticism btw, just legit surprise...
How new is this damn filter of yours exactly?!?!?! 'Cause most of what I remember getting from you is passive-aggression, aggression-aggression and never ending unabashed sarcasm
Bad analogy imo, since it implies that people who don't directly support Ocean are only getting leftovers from the tables/dumpsters. That is incorrect. We are actually getting the full course here, either straight from the kitchen or the table when it arrives. Therefore "dine & dash" would have been a better analogy.
Generally speaking I agree with your post but you seem to be implying that you can't have "legitimate complaints" unless you pay for the meal. That is blatantly false. You can have legitimate complaints as long as you taste the food. That's the only requirement.
Now whether the Chef should give a single fuck about the opinion of someone who dines and dashes is up to you. I wouldn't! And I fully support Ocean in not giving a single fuck about what I say about his games. The people he should listen to and care about are his subs. No question about that.
With SG, for example, we've had inconsistent imagery for some of the LI's, like Mila, whose chest has changed sizes multiple times over the course of season 1, which represents about 1 week of game time (at least in terms of the time Nika and Nami have known Mila).
I see these as some of the growing pains of SG and if these continued throughout S2 and S3, for example, that would diminish SG for me. I like an AVN that keeps me immersed in its story. Inconsistent renders for key characters will break my immersion if they become obvious and repetitive.
When someone posts the latest dev log for SG, there are typically several types of information in multiple broad categories, something like:
A) Status of rendering/scenes
B) Hardware/software/GUI/Phone/status of finding freelancer help for specific assets
C) Status of music/licenses/animations tied to music
D) Business issues - like taxes
Since the origin of the post is on Patreon/SS - it is for those who have sought it out, and has details people like me, who are $ supporters, like and value.
If someone is not interested in B/C/D - that is great - don't read them.
If there is some part of a dev log I see on Patreon/SS or here that I have no interest in - I don't read it and move on...
Complaining/finding fault with Ocean because he says a specific power cable was not delivered with his workstation... what is the point?
I bought a new laptop before Christmas - got a good deal on a nice sale and when it arrived - it was missing the docking station that was supposed to be part of the package deal.
I had to let the vendor know and two weeks later, I got the missing docking station and a vendor mea culpa - warehouse mistake.
Conspiracy? - No - just RL - shit happens and we roll with it.
I see the dev communicating with his supporters as being real - what is happening/has happened since the last dev log - the good, bad and ugly.
I Know Ocean does not tell us all the specific things that went well in any given dev log period of ~ two weeks.
He gives a status update and share a few things that are outside the norm - so RL...
There are some on this thread that just seem to Live for the chance to find Something wrong here, versus going and finding something right elsewhere - just glad that I do not have to suffer through dealing with them as RL friends or family as That would be brutal.
Once we get the first S2 update, we will have more to discuss - some good and I'm sure some we will disagree on, if only due to who likes which LIs and can Amber Please get Nika to the cabin so he can get a proper fix for his currently all but inactive pocket rocket.
And Yes - I do want Major Amber time and multiple scenes as she provides her assistance in reviving said pocket rocket!
I don't expect that in the initial S2 update but I am Hopeful that this is S2 content we will enjoy this year!
Cheers!!
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You are right, everyone makes mistakes........ but this is not our case, because Ocean is a generator of mistakes and problems. I think the problem here is not the cable, but that people are tired of hearing constant excuses and justifications. There comes a time when people's faith runs out and they stop believing words. This is exactly what happens to Ocean fans.
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Writing this from the Workstation:
I'll now begin the process of moving my big ass 3D library over, I'll install all the software I need and then I'll do some tests.
How fast does the new PC load up scenes.
Does the new PC render faster than the old one with 2 A6000 ADAs? (The new one supports a lot more PCI-E lanes.)
How fast does it render with the full 3x A6000 setup?
What are the temps?
How fast does it load the textures back into the GPU during an animation?
And whatever other tests come to mind.
Also, why does Win 11 look like a damn phone
But with that... The Workstation is now in use.
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I don't even want to think about how long it would take Ocean to make his 10k renders if he had an f95 account kkkkkkkk
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Seriously, do you want to compare the cable with, for example, 1 year without any news in SG? Or walking on eggshells... like the rework was a fiasco and S01 without Vic's pussy!
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Even if Ocean works a miracle and shortens the production time of the season to two years, it will still take him 10 years
If someone complains about such trifles as the cable scandal, it ultimately does not matter to him because if that is enough to complain, he will not last at least 10 years with Ocean
If someone loves this game as much as Yossa, it does not matter to him because whether it takes 10 or 15 years, he will still wait for each update for as long as he breathes
Discussion for the sake of discussion
If someone complains about such trifles as the cable scandal, it ultimately does not matter to him because if that is enough to complain, he will not last at least 10 years with Ocean
If someone loves this game as much as Yossa, it does not matter to him because whether it takes 10 or 15 years, he will still wait for each update for as long as he breathes
Discussion for the sake of discussion
- Apr 11, 2024
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Why anyone with any knowledge of the first season would be surprise by delays
for season 2......well I find that pretty funny!
for season 2......well I find that pretty funny!
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Yep, but it seems like the only ones waiting are the ones complaining about the slow development speed. I'm not waiting for anything, when a new chapter comes out, I'll get a notification and continue playing with all my pleasure. I'll even start from the beginning of S1 to refresh the story in memory.
And between SG releases, I'm looking for new games or playing the ones that have been updated and that I liked before. The list of games I want to try or play their recent updates seems to only grow. I'd have to make playing AVNs a full-time job to complete that list. So no, I'm not waiting.
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No, I wasn't comparing anything. I was simply sayin that people blow things out of proportion. Yes, some people can't get a break. Yes, a lot of it is Ocean's responsibility and choices. But let's not whip ourselves into a frenzy over a cable as a sign that our world will end and Ocean will abandon SG. People's complaints sound like Ocean is busting their balls. There's a whole forum where there are other games while I wait. I personally have downloaded 200+ games here that I've yt to play, jus to see if they're any good. If antone's impatient over a cable, they should maybe reflect on what that says about them.
In the last two weeks, Ocean has filled up the time telling us things as they're happening, phone coding was a big one, work station another. The development is still going. We knew the game wouldn't drop this week from the last devlog. What exactly cas caused the sky to fall? I'm far more worried about the price of eggs ...and coffee. Ocean'll get the cable and unwrap his business tool, and smash it with renders to see what it can do. He's more impatient than me.
- Jul 13, 2022
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Holy.
The lack of self awareness be real.
Jokes aside, people are just having a good laugh @ Ocean's "shitty luck", at least that's the case for me, but ngl, the people who come here to defend Ocean cape and sword are some of the most commited mfers i've seen here it's a blast to visit this place from time to time because of that.
- Dec 24, 2018
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The whole point of the boy who cried wolf is that we shouldn't use up our social standing on trifles, so society gives us leeway when something happens. But who am I to determine what is serious for someone else? Some people can't organise themselves to do taxes even when they know they're a yearly thing - their minds just avoid numbers and procrastinate because numbers scare them.
I do get what you're saying and I agree that it's foolish for anyone to believe they have a get out of jail free card or endless social credit, but at the same time, a lack of patience and acceptance usually comes from people who have never needed to catch a break. Ocean's biggest problem is he hopes he can do things faster than he can, and he hasn't split the update into parts. if he delivered small updates every two months, people would be pissed off that not enough happened in an update. He only really fucked up by doing too big an update that couldn't be delivered in a normal timeframe - and he's already said he'll go back to regular sized, 2000 render updates from here.
But how much sky fell between Ocean noticing the cable was missing and now that he has the cable? I barely had time to catch up. If people are this sensitive, they probably think Ocean shouldn't waste time brushing his teeth, or making coffee, or going to the gym. Dev's gotta do normal people things too, like poop, sleep, drink coffee, and wait on delivery people. Last thing I bought online was only two weeks late. Go figure what I did while waiting. Ocean'll likely have new renders done while waiting, and probably will keep his current computer rendering while installing everything on the workstation. It's no big deal. And cablegate is over now anyway.
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I spent the last few weeks finishing Watch Dogs, when I finished I came back here and saw a news story about the PC he ordered and about the cable, I didn't stop to read if anyone was crying about the cable, you were the first to mention it as far as I saw.
And about the cell phone, in the end this should have come out in S01 because I translated all the images in Photoshop, it was a lot of work.
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Man, he was lucky that the company sent the cable, here in my country the power supplies don't come with a power cable, you have to buy it separately, the same thing is the USB cable for printers.
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Gotta understand that:
1. Cause: Ocean posts communication about dev things
2. Effect: posters start talking about how the game will never be finished instantly.
3. Bro's got his cable and is taking the workstation through it's paces now and Ocean knows jack shit about any of the waaaaah posts, and is just getting on doing dev things.
4. it's always slower than I think, which gives me time to drink coffee.
Regarding the phone, no. The phone app is so Ocean doesn't need to make renders for the phone, the phone generates in real time. We already have Ocean doing renders for the phone is S1. What happens in S2 is the phone generates based on the script, so Ocean can change it on the fly based on the variables triggered in the script, so the phone acts like all your choices are implemented. Otherwise Ocean needs renders for every possible option, or has generic phone messages.
What this means is Ocean can just script multiple responses - ie if you are frenemies with Bella or on Bella's path, or on Bella's path but fooling with Mila, but on Bella's path foolisng with Mila without telling Bella, there can be different conversations to add colour. THe basic info is the same, but the tone of the conversation will be different. And Ocean doesn't have to do a single render for the phone, only dick/boobs pictures being sent.
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Is "SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip" not the main file? I have no idea but you can;t extract it with the regular unzip utility on Arch Linux at least.My mistake, I didn't check it correctly yesterday. It's not a 7z file after all, just a regular zip. Sorry for the confusion, I must have been half asleep already.
Also, a reasonably new (that is, a 15 year old) unzip v6.00 (compiled and packaged for Ubuntu Jammy 22.04 LTS) unzips it just fine.
So I'm guessing, whatever the hell esoom was talking about, it wasn't the main game archive file "SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip". And we still have no clue what it actually was.
Path = SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Type = zip
Physical Size = 10361821024
64-bit = +
Characteristics = Zip64
I guess the unzip command can't touch a zip64 file, I've just never come across it before.
$ unzip SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Archive: SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
warning [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: 6066496255 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
(attempting to process anyway)
error [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: start of central directory not found;
zipfile corrupt.
(please check that you have transferred or created the zipfile in the
appropriate BINARY mode and that you have compiled UnZip properly)
Strange you say the Ubuntu one works, because I have the exact same version on Arch and it shits itself. Humm.
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I completely disagree with you Ducky !
(No disrespect) but you gotta be the most innocent and naive person on the planet .
'cause no Teacher , no Boss , no Client will have that amount of patience or sympathy for anybody .
I do appreciate that you're trying to rationalize the events and keep the conversation well mannered .
It was like a 6 to 7 months a go that someone posted a list of all the troubles(excuses) that Ocean used every time his work got stalled , using 1 trouble per month and that list was almost 1 1/2 years and that list is outdated
at this point Ocean feels like "Fix It Felix" and every time he's ready to start building something here comes "Wreck It Ralph" to stall it .
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Well I thank you for the appreciationI completely disagree with you Ducky !
(No disrespect) but you gotta be the most innocent and naive person on the planet .
'cause no Teacher , no Boss , no Client will have that amount of patience or sympathy for anybody .
I do appreciate that you're trying to rationalize the events and keep the conversation well mannered .
It was like a 6 to 7 months a go that someone posted a list of all the troubles(excuses) that Ocean used every time his work got stalled , using 1 trouble per month and that list was almost 1 1/2 years and that list is outdated
at this point Ocean feels like "Fix It Felix" and every time he's ready to start building something here comes "Wreck It Ralph" to stall it .
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The people who are Ocean's subs/patrons aren't the ones complaining - as pirates, we're not teachers, bosses or clients though. That is why I am patient. I bought season 1, but that's done - Ocean got my money after he delivered, not before. And the Steam release was in May, so if we get a release by May, Ocean's actually done better than at any point in his development. When/if he meets that bar, I doubt he'll get credit, people will just move onto the next "we'll all be dead or have dead pocket rockets ourselves by the time the next release happens". What's most evident is few people actually care about the development, they just want endless content, like their facebook feed.
But it will be nice to have fresh content. Most likely WiaB first I guess.