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Given the amount of content we get per chapter, story and quality of renders BADIK is overall, at least in my book, the best game on this site, so 4-5 months for chapter is not that long. Now what can we say about AWAM where we get one third of a day every 4-5 months.
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I have my suspicions it might be her because when she introduced herself she said something about the MC "might not recognize her since she has changed since school"
Slowly or fast are relative concepts. At the moment, Ocean makes about 1,500 renderings in six months. But with the new equipment, it should be faster.
can someone share me a save file please? cos my previous modded save couldnt continue. appreciate it !
This is the first time I've seen someone put the words "Being A DIK" and "slowly"in one sentence. Maybe 1 chapter in 4-6 months is not fast, but this one chapter is like a whole game of 3-4 thousand renderers in volume.
Sure, do you care at what point the game is during the save? I have a few from my playthrough yesterday if you have a preference. Basically one at the beginning of Ch 2, 3, or at the end of 3.5?
Eh, as you said in your earlier post, it's relative. While I think the dev certainly cranks out the renders (and he should, he has like 10 3090s, lol), 4-5 months is still a lengthy stretch of time to wait for a single chapter of anything.
Ya, Amber is just absolutely rockin'. Have a hard time concentrating on the conversation when she's there with her nipple studs...
Agreed. Good dev, but anything that takes upwards of half a year for a single chapter, I certainly wouldn't label as anything quick. And that's not criticism as I like the game also, but still a fair observation.
As a side conversation regarding the A6000s Oceanlab has talked about getting - has he talked much about selling the game on digital storefronts at all? Like others have said, I'd be open to buying the game on Steam or a DRM free storefront like GOG if he sells it there. The game currently provides 5-10 hours of gameplay so I would think he could easily sell it at those storefronts and get a nice cash-injection toward the A6000s in NVLINK he wants in order to speed up production time.
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I hope im not mistaken but i remember that Ocean in a post said that after the release of chapter 5 he will release the game on Steam
- Jan 10, 2021
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Tbh I don't believe it.
Ocean got himself a 3090 card a month before Chapter 3 release which took 12 months.
After Chapter 3 Ocean promised to release faster but half chapter still took 6-7 months. So the pace is still 12 months for a whole chapter.
And keep in mind that Ocean still works on his old PCs since A6000 is not ordered yet. He waits when threadrippers appear on the market.
Even with the most superior hardware Ocean will not release faster because he will always push himself and his hardware to the limit.
I hope to be wrong but keep your expectations in check. It is what is, just stating facts
- May 8, 2018
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Not to mention we know that is a perfecionist, which means the better the hardware he gets, the more he's gonna try to make things even look better, which will further increase the time it takes to release. So don't expect better hardware = faster updates.
- Dec 24, 2020
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Holy shit! The new model for Helen is breathtaking! Not that I didn't already know that any rework from Ocean was going to be drop dead gorgeous, of course. The guy doesn't know how to make an ugly model. I haven't checked the WIAB thread for a long time, but apparently I'm going to have to.
- Aug 1, 2018
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But daz3d isn't the greatest for gpu rendering. When Oceanlab switches to Blender rendering should speed up a whole lot more
I think Ocean creates a fantastic product, but he's mentioned the improvements he expects to make in the quality of the visual aspects of his games once he gets his desired high performance hardware (dual A6000s, etc). It's pretty clear that he'll push the visuals to whatever limit he can achieve, regardless of frequency of updates.
That's absolutely fine. These are his games and he clearly gets great enjoyment learning new things and pushing his skills. How he deploys improvements to his tools is absolutely solely up to him.
It's also worth pointing out that his monthly SubscribeStar and Patreon income is almost $6300. While there are any number of draws on that $6300, he almost certainly can afford his wishlist upgrades after 3 months of income. So we should expect those upgrades to arrive fairly soon, and we'll be able to assess the new hardware's impact on update times.
I've said before that whether you are a subscribing supporter or not, we are all watching and consuming a work in progress and any expectations of any shortening of the time between updates is solely in our own minds.
- May 8, 2018
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Him working with Blender also means he's gonna be doing most likely even more detailed renders and animations, which take a whole lot more time. Either way, he's only gonna start with Blender with Season 2, which at the current pace, will only start being developed in 2023 if he decides that 5 chapters = 1 season. If it's 10 chapters for 1 season, then get ready to wait a whole lot more.
Alternatively, Ocean can reduce the volume of chapters to 15-20 renderers and release updates every day. Is that what you want? There were 1800 new renderers in Chapter 3, 1500 in Chapter 3.5. 3090 undoubtedly accelerated his work. It's just that the chapters are getting bigger.
I foresee a point where Ocean has advanced his tools (hardware and software) and personal skills, so that he's determined the standard for his products. While someone with his motivations and personality will never stop improving his command of his creative process, at that point I'd expect he'd focus on advancing his storylines as rapidly as possible while meeting that standard, and the time between updates could shorten dramatically.
But I also expect we're a fairly long way from that. There have been a number of studies about how much time someone has to put into mastering something, and they've looked at everything from painting, to shooting, to mechanics, to software, to pretty much anything you can think of. Their conclusion was that, on average, mastery shows up around 10,000 hours of applied effort. Changing toolsets increases that average, but how much is hard to quantify. WIAB showed up here in 2018. Ocean's been climbing that learning curve before and since, and as he's learned more he's searched for and adopted better tools and spread his focus to broader areas.
His game(s) require expertise in multiple areas, and each requires its own mastery. Given his dedication to improving his game(s) and his skills, if you were to ask me my SWAG on how much longer it will be until he's comfortable with his mastery with all the aspects of game creation, I'd tell you 18-36 months from today. But that's just my opinion, and worth exactly what you've paid for it at best.
All of that said, Ocean you're already producing a game of amazing technical quality, and I know it will only get better. I look forward to the next update in either of your games. Thank you for your commitment and effort.
- May 18, 2017
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So guys any of you already seen this?
it is bella`s eyes when they are in the date doesnt look like a maniac going towards her? maybe she was remembering her trauma and what happend with her "friend" any of you guys saw it too?
it is bella`s eyes when they are in the date doesnt look like a maniac going towards her? maybe she was remembering her trauma and what happend with her "friend" any of you guys saw it too?
- Aug 28, 2018
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Dude, you're off the reservation on that one. A sociopath is someone who demonstrates a pervasive pattern of disregarding and violating the rights of others, characterized by (among other things) use of deceit, lying, aliases, reckless disregard for safety of self or others, and a lack of remorse (indifference) or rationalizing hurting, mistreating, or stealing from others, and impulsivity and lack of planning ahead (APA, DSM-5 definition).
The only ones the MC goes after are those who have harmed either his loved ones or his friends. His seeking revenge on people who have hurt his loved ones and friends is exactly that - revenge - not a desire to disregard or violate the rights of others. Depending upon how he is played by the player, the MC actually shows considerable compassion and kindness to people who, on the surface, should not deserve it, like Bella. In getting revenge against the "rich kids" who hurt his friend, he demonstrates considerable advanced planning. While the MC is considerably emotionally blunted, that most likely is the result of a serious case of clinical depression, which the psychiatrist is working with him on.
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