seamanq

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I'm really liking this game except, sometimes the MC train of thoughts makes me feel we are playing a sociopath, sure i think its clear he's emotionally stunted but sometimes... dunno, the way he speaks and rationalizes things feels... off?
Dude, you're off the reservation on that one. A sociopath is someone who demonstrates a pervasive pattern of disregarding and violating the rights of others, characterized by (among other things) use of deceit, lying, aliases, reckless disregard for safety of self or others, and a lack of remorse (indifference) or rationalizing hurting, mistreating, or stealing from others, and impulsivity and lack of planning ahead (APA, DSM-5 definition).

The only ones the MC goes after are those who have harmed either his loved ones or his friends. His seeking revenge on people who have hurt his loved ones and friends is exactly that - revenge - not a desire to disregard or violate the rights of others. Depending upon how he is played by the player, the MC actually shows considerable compassion and kindness to people who, on the surface, should not deserve it, like Bella. In getting revenge against the "rich kids" who hurt his friend, he demonstrates considerable advanced planning. While the MC is considerably emotionally blunted, that most likely is the result of a serious case of clinical depression, which the psychiatrist is working with him on.
 

Dragon59

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It's not a girl who play basketball, or we would have seen her dick through those tight pants
A few developers have included transgender characters, but I've yet to see one have a game involving an acknowledged trans character who has undergone gender affirmation/reassignment surgery. Given that 1 in 4 transgender people have the surgery, means there should be some out there.
 

LostGhost

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So guys any of you already seen this?

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it is bella`s eyes when they are in the date doesnt look like a maniac going towards her? maybe she was remembering her trauma and what happend with her "friend" any of you guys saw it too?
I heard people pupils get wider when they see their love,like in dressing room scene while she correcting his collar
 
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Soundgfx

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> Here MC let me teach you how to workout
> Here MC let's shower together and I'll talk specifically about your penis
> Here MC let me keep you safe from Bella
> Here MC let me protect you from bullies
> Here MC let me invite you out drinking with friends and ONLY talk to you
If you guys can't tell Jeff and MC have some chemistry, Idk what to tell ya :KappaPride:

(I copied this from a member in Ocean's discord but damn, he's right)
jeff is lowkey best girl

Dude, you're off the reservation on that one. A sociopath is someone who demonstrates a pervasive pattern of disregarding and violating the rights of others, characterized by (among other things) use of deceit, lying, aliases, reckless disregard for safety of self or others, and a lack of remorse (indifference) or rationalizing hurting, mistreating, or stealing from others, and impulsivity and lack of planning ahead (APA, DSM-5 definition).

The only ones the MC goes after are those who have harmed either his loved ones or his friends. His seeking revenge on people who have hurt his loved ones and friends is exactly that - revenge - not a desire to disregard or violate the rights of others. Depending upon how he is played by the player, the MC actually shows considerable compassion and kindness to people who, on the surface, should not deserve it, like Bella. In getting revenge against the "rich kids" who hurt his friend, he demonstrates considerable advanced planning. While the MC is considerably emotionally blunted, that most likely is the result of a serious case of clinical depression, which the psychiatrist is working with him on.
yeah I wouldn't really call him a sociopath or anything like that, our protagonist understands morality and can distinguish what society deems right and wrong and feels compassion towards other people; him comforting Victoria even with choosing the option to "stop there" - that is something sociopaths would never do; they can't understand or feel empathy, he does tend to exhibit such tendencies but calling it that is too much of a stretch anyway, our protagonist does love mind games and manipulations and has blatant disregard for those he considers enemies but even then those are most likely a consequence of his trauma and we did saw him as a normal kid in the flashbacks but he grew up emotionally stunted, our protagonist has clear cut symptoms of ptsd.



if the protagonist has a consistent trait it would be his intelligence AND ability to do long-term planning, the latter is something sociopaths can't do, he hasn't shown any actions that would be considered impulsive. in fact everything our protagonist does is frigging calculated, which is why Bella tells him in their gym scene that he comes off as robotic.
 
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Razrback16

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So guys any of you already seen this?

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it is bella`s eyes when they are in the date doesnt look like a maniac going towards her? maybe she was remembering her trauma and what happend with her "friend" any of you guys saw it too?
Ya I noticed it a little bit when I played a couple days ago but I will admit it's tough to make out a lot of detail for me.
 

Insomnia_z

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So guys any of you already seen this?

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it is bella`s eyes when they are in the date doesnt look like a maniac going towards her? maybe she was remembering her trauma and what happend with her "friend" any of you guys saw it too?
I thought that it was the reflection of the persons on the restaurant so i didnt paid too much attention but right now i dont know i mean its difficult see it because its kinda blurry but it wouldnt be the first time we saw in the eyes of someone remembering something, it already happened with Marla if we chose shoot her
 

Razrback16

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Hottest and most passionate kiss in all AVNs hands down
Ya, as I just kinda got into this game over the last few days, I'm trying to bring myself up to speed on this thread and saw your post. I've played (and purchased) a number of VNs and this dev has really done a nice job with the character development. I definitely love the slower burn route and building up the romance and relationships a bit instead of just going right to sex.

Didn't like Bella at first, but am definitely roped in completely at this point with her character due to how well the relationship has been developed; that was just such a well-done romance scene. So curious to see how dev writes Bella's response to the date night events once she returns to school - thought it was intriguing how she was written to be so upset over developing emotional attachment that she actually blew off going to classes and stayed in bed, lol. I expect her to be almost angry at the MC now when she gets back and act standoffish - how dare he make her have feelings for him, hah, or just be in complete denial - nope, I wasn't myself that night, it never happened. :ROFLMAO:
 

LostGhost

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the game is already with incest... the MC is William and Leya child! should i have added spoilers on this one?

also i am not an incest fan but if the story is good i will endure it but if its just for the fap i will just skip it!

clearly the 2nd one since i find the MC very relatable to my old 16 year old self!

12-13 years old that`s how old they were! the way i read the story the MC did something to S... *cough* i mean Summer and his mind repressed whatever he did but deep down he knows it was his fault why summer is gone from his life, somehow a 12 year old was too immature and hurt the girl... he probably pulled her hair too hard!

he is not a sociopath as for a psychopath i guess it depends on how you play him... for me the MC is a psychopath since i as the agent of his morality,i feel nothing but exileration at overcoming my opponents by any means necessary and turning Bella into my Anal slut... if she presented no challenge my MC would feel no will towards her but she seems like a trophy worth overcoming a true challenge and at the same time i can pretend to do it to avenge Nami so it allows my MC to mimic true feelings that allows him to keep his cover as an unfeeling bastard!

also his feelings have been repressed but if they come out... freaking hell is that a dangerous dam to break!

depends if you have the trans content on or not... or it can be a trans with a micro penis that can be hidden with some glue tape!

the MC from Alexandra is a nephilim (sort of batle angel) a super human monster that feels no remorse since its not in his divine nature! spoilers again?

herm the deluca family made me cry more but then again i can still feel empathy towards children not so much for adults anymore!

Sasha ofc she will be the perfect mother for the future god emperor and all his high kings and queens siblings... gotta start taking over the world somewhere right?

by chapter 5 there will be a steam release!

as for your last question... YES!

ocean as been very upfront about his income and he is underpaid! he lives in an expensive country and taxes and cuts from those service providers do take a massive cut! do not confuse raw income with liquid income what he as left after all expenses is far less then what his shown talent so far is worth! so keep the commie talk away from this thread!

furthermore he as shown openness unlike some anally retentive German living in Sweden with a feminist wife... he as stated he will hire people to help him with his project once he can a comfortably afford it! which i agree so far he as been very financially responsible and we really do not need a financial hic up to fuck up the entire project!

Dalli ?

must agree with the Jeff part best partner one can wish for!

as for your 2nd part yes does not combine with a sociopath but it fits right in with a psychopath who tries to emulate feelings! Also psychopats can plan ahead some have kept marriages of over 30 years most notably quite a few serial killers which the MC seems like a work in progress with how his mind words!

psychopaths are a totally new brand and a class above sociopaths!
If He's son of William and leya how he ended up being adopted by the asian
 

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Hello,

As mentioned before, the first parts of Chapter 4 can't be previewed for spoiler reasons.

But good news, these parts are done.
I'll spoiler now that MC will not die in the locker room and actually make it to the Tabletop session.
I'm currently around 270 still renders in. (+ a few animations.)

So... First of all, I've got to make something clear.
In the past, I referred to the tabletop session as DND. Which implies a medieval setting.
For the first tabletop session, I didn't go for medieval. (Next one might be.)
A friend made me aware of the fact that this might confuse people.

The first tabletop setting will be "Cyberspace Nightmare".
Which is in a Sci-Fi Horror setting.
There'll not be any jumpscares or similar cheap horror shit.
It's all about the atmosphere... and girls in tight space/war suits.

And of course your decisions during these games influence relationships.

With the first real Dev log, I'll go into more detail and show you guys some stuff from the tabletop session.
But here's one little test preview:
Ch.4-Tabletop-Preview.png
This isn't the final first environment yet. It's a test render but I thought I'd give you guys a visual presentation of it.
Chapter 4 has been going smoothly 'til now and the next step is to build quite a few environments for the tabletop.

It's also going to be the most animation-heavy update I've done yet. (Most animations are outside of the tabletop.)

The first real dev log will most likely appear before the end of this month when I've got something to show.

- Ocean
:)
 
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