Never played this game, should I wait until chap1 is reworked or just dive in rn?
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My Advice....
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Did Ocean say this somewhere? I'm a relative newcomer to the thread, so just curious - very possible I've missed important bits like this. Depressing if it's that long of a wait.
And do you know if he's changing story elements, or is it just like remastering some renders maybe he wasn't pleased with the first time around?I'd second your advice, too - by all means, new folks jump right in. Tons of fun, game will currently give ~6-9 hours of entertainment.
I've done two runs so far but will hold off on playing again until Ch 4 and may just go ahead and re-play it from the beginning if it'll include re-worked areas.
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The reason I say that new updates will take a lot of time (5-7 months, just a guess) is because: -
- Right Now, Ocean is working on two VN's, Where it all Began (WIAB) and Summer's Gone (SG). Both are in-development. The Last WIAB update was on 2020-06-13 (15 months ago). He has to update and create content for Both games.
- His hardware, which I guess you already know about. Rn, Ocean has grown a lot but his Hardware has a long way to go...
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It is the latter. AFAIK He will only rework the first chapter, which fortunately is not that big and we can see some of the reworked parts in Ch1.
Info about rework Here.
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He will rework chapter 2 as well, but just a small part every update, new content will still be the main priority. The reason why he wants to replace all the bad renders is because the game will be released on Steam after chapter 5. And he wants to leave a good impression on his new Steam customers
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You should just dive in, chapter 1 rework is just visuals, there's no story differences.
The rework will be finished when Chapter 5 releases.
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Actually there is some differences in reworked part of chapter 1. Ocean removed most of the Darth Cyrus subplot, making the story a little different. I believe he said once that whole "dark" part not needed anymore.
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Yes, but I'm talking about WIAB levels of rework. The story is still the same.
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I've never left a comment before, but man this game is gorgeus
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Yup. This game is not perfect in all aspects. But when it comes to visual quality, I think it’s safe to say Summer’s Gone is the most beautiful game on this site. And what impresses me more is that Ocean is able to create this quality with such limited hardware and a smaller number of supporters than he deserves. Many other devs who have 2k-3k patreons or even more can’t do the same.
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Thank you sir!
Thanks to you as well!
Appreciate all the info. Guess I'll just have to hurry up and wait.
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This is exactly why I am so confident in the update time as well as the quality drastically improving in the future. If we are getting these kinds of updates now when he has so little support and equipment(as compared to other larger developers), imagine how it would be when he is finally on equal footing with those other developers in terms of support and equipment. Many of these developers have much better hardware and more support, yet it still takes anywhere from 5-6 months for their updates. Oceans pushed out 3.5(which is bigger than some full updates for other AVNs) in 6-7 months, with the limited equipment and support he had. Imagine what it would be like with enough support and equipment that can actually handle his work.
Edit: The only other AVN that can compare visually, in my opinion, is City of Broken Dreamers. That takes almost 6 months to update. Imagine what it would be like if Oceans had the level of support they did lol. Also, he brought updates 3 and 3.5 with 350-550 patrons. Considering the quality of both of those updates, it's practically unheard of for the devs on this site. Had it been someone else, we may have still been waiting for chapter 3...
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Ya on a positive note I've noticed Ocean's patreon has now broken 800 I believe. When I signed up a week or two back it was in the lower 700s so it seems to be picking up momentum which is good to see.
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There is no doubt that 30 chapters is irrealistic for this game, we won't ever get there, doesn't mean the game won't be finished with less though. But it's also a fact that Ocean puts a stupendous amount of work in the updates and thrives for them to be the best quality he can deliver with what he has. So people putting the game down because of irrealistic expectations doesn't take anything away from the fact that this game has a really good story with extremely good visuals and it's something to keep you hooked. Does this mean I agree with all the decisions he has made or his work planning? No, not really, but it also doesn't mean he's doing a bad job or that he doesn't care, cause he's shown he clearly cares.
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Sorry but you are thinking like ooh we get an update every 7 months. Then yes it would be unrealistic to have 30 chapters.
Ocean Imo looked at the 30 chapters from a more of a future standpoint where he has better hardware and more render rigs.
If he get his updates out on a 2 month basis 30 chapters doesn't seem that unrealistic. he even said he wanted to hire a coder because that is his weakest point. So he doesn't have to handle that also
Just my 2 cents
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He already has hired a coder, for at least minimum the past 2 chapters he has had someone working on it.
Very few games get 2 month cycle updates that bring super high quality. Even if Ocean gets a better rig, which he will at some point, that may decrease the amount of time it takes between updates, but 2 months is also just as irrealistic as both WIAB and SG having 30 chapters. Don't forget he's working on 2 games, not just 1. Even games like Chasing Sunsets and Leap Of Faith that don't have the same amount of quality as SG have around a 3 month cycle for updates. Chasing Sunsets even has 2 people working on it and they try to commit the best they can to a 90 day cycle of updates.
Ya I'd love to see him get his dual A6000 rig so he can just crank out renders. As so many of us know who have been playing these VNs for a bit, it's that rendering time that just crushes these developers in terms of limitations. If they could get to where they could queue up whatever they needed in a given day and their render rig would take care of things basically overnight they could realistically produce more detailed stories with significantly longer narrative that are released in a more reasonable timeframe. I know I'm happy to donate to devs who make a sincere effort toward that.
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can you guys stop puttin ocean in the same categorie as leap of fate or beaing a dik or broken dreams yes on the render qualitie they are the same but they are completly different when it comes to writting and creat a realistic atmosphare the other games have more teenager fantasie writting and everything turned around MC complettly different style of world building.
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I'm not sure. DPC plans for BADIK to be at least 25 episodes or somewhere around that amount. City of Broken Dreamers is supposed to be a minimum of 14 chapters, we're not even halfway through The Deluca Family, and AOA academy is not even through their first part yet. My point is that the best AVNs here aren't going to be short. 30 chapters seem unrealistic now due to how long it took for his last updates, but, like I've said in a previous comment, as time goes on and his Patreon spikes with each update, it would become more and more doable. May I remind everyone that Oceans brought out updates of this quality with a low amount of patron support along with hardware that struggled to handle his workload? Unlike DPC who refuses to hire any additional support, Oceans already showed that he was willing to do that with this last update.
I don't know, maybe I'm being too optimistic? But the fact remains that Oceans has proven to be a competent developer. I won't deny that 30 chapters do seem rather unrealistic right now, but that's only temporary. Like I have said before, more popularity=more patrons, more patrons=more support, more support=more spent on bettering the quality and update time. It's that simple lol.
P.S: If we're being realistic, I don't see any of the AVNs I've mentioned being completed in the next few years(except COBD). That's just not possible these days. AVNs of this quality aren't going to be short. As with books and actual novels, the better the story, the longer the book.