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Warscared

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summer never left she was always and will always be in the MC heart!
whoever or whatever she as become it is not the same summer!
in my perspective the MC made sure of that 5 years ago!

besides who needs summer when we can have Sasha?
 

Terminator_26F

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This poor MC already has enormous difficulties with the females around him, whether it is the bimbo Bella and her psychoanalyst mother, the two resentful sportswomen, the Iranian without her chador, the scarred cutie, the poor accident victim, her distraught (half) sister love for him, and so on. Please, do not bring Summer back because there he is on the right track to set himself on fire.
 

Soundgfx

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Just wait for Summer to come back, I can feel it coming. It would be an emotional trainwreck, and would really cap this one as one of the best AVNs in history, if the dev pulls it off right.
it could but there's a chance it'll be a cop out and would undo all our boi's character development.

dude spent years being an emo, did his best to move on only for his bitch ex to suddenly pop back into his life; dick move smh
am i the only one who hopes Summer doesn't come back

think about it. it Would be really really bad
you are not the only one.
if summer came back then left, it would completely undo all the time he took to mend and move on from that.
Yeah I agree, ocean could squeeze her back in again but it would undo all the character development our protagonist would or potentially have.


summer right now is not much of a character but more of a plot point; her disappearance basically kicks our protagonist's story into overdrive. We don't really know why or how she dissapeared; why her disappearance caused serious psychological trauma on our protagonist.


Ocean likes hiding details of the protagonist's life from us despite the fact that it's us playing as the protagonist, the writing sets up the player/audience as a literal audience because we are not in the know of what really happened to who we are playing as; which is kinda fun since it puts questions into our minds, but ocean needs to be careful around putting too much questions into our heads because the more we theorise or think about it the more it adds to our own expectations of what the answers to these mysteries are and it'll basically turn into that one episode of rick and morty about that cat lmao
 

Cee27

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am i the only one who hopes Summer doesn't come back

think about it. it Would be really really bad

if I may use a metaphor

think of our mental state as a mirror that was broken

I mean yeah we may be putting it back together again now but it's being held together with duct tape and chewing gum

if summer would come back

the mirror would just break again and this time for good

and all the king's horses and All the King's Men will not be able to put that shit back together again
That's what I was saying about it being an emotional trainwreck and needs superb writing to pull off. But I really think that Summer's gonna be back cause she's in the title of the game. It's for the players to decide what will happen with the MC then.
 

Cee27

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it could but there's a chance it'll be a cop out and would undo all our boi's character development.

dude spent years being an emo, did his best to move on only for his bitch ex to suddenly pop back into his life; dick move smh


you are not the only one.

Yeah I agree, ocean could squeeze her back in again but it would undo all the character development our protagonist would or potentially have.


summer right now is not much of a character but more of a plot point; her disappearance basically kicks our protagonist's story into overdrive. We don't really know why or how she dissapeared; why her disappearance caused serious psychological trauma on our protagonist.


Ocean likes hiding details of the protagonist's life from us despite the fact that it's us playing as the protagonist, the writing sets up the player/audience as a literal audience because we are not in the know of what really happened to who we are playing as; which is kinda fun since it puts questions into our minds, but ocean needs to be careful around putting too much questions into our heads because the more we theorise or think about it the more it adds to our own expectations of what the answers to these mysteries are and it'll basically turn into that one episode of rick and morty about that cat lmao
Has he really developed if it breaks him again? I think not. Think about it for a second, if he really wants to develop he needs to face the issue, otherwise he'll just be in denial at best. As someone who've been through the same thing(or atleast somewhat and somehow) as the MC in real life, I can say that I only moved on and developed fully when I got my closure.
 

Cee27

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am i the only one who hopes Summer doesn't come back

think about it. it Would be really really bad

if I may use a metaphor

think of our mental state as a mirror that was broken

I mean yeah we may be putting it back together again now but it's being held together with duct tape and chewing gum

if summer would come back

the mirror would just break again and this time for good

and all the king's horses and All the King's Men will not be able to put that shit back together again
I mean it's the player who's gonna decide if they get back together or not, but it wouldn't be healthy for the MC to not have his closure with Summer. Summer coming back into the story isn't gonna mean that she's the one you gotta choose right? It would also be good for the story to have a certain direction to that.
 
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Cee27

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That's the actual beauty of story telling, I have a great story to tell but I don't have the guts and the talent to start and finish it. That's why I'm thankful to devs like Ocean, cause they're doing something I wanted to do for a very long time but couldn't.
 

Warscared

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Has he really developed if it breaks him again? I think not. Think about it for a second, if he really wants to develop he needs to face the issue, otherwise he'll just be in denial at best. As someone who've been through the same thing(or atleast somewhat and somehow) as the MC in real life, I can say that I only moved on and developed fully when I got my closure.
summer right now is not much of a character but more of a plot point; her disappearance basically kicks our protagonist's story into overdrive. We don't really know why or how she dissapeared; why her disappearance caused serious psychological trauma on our protagonist.
i play it as the brain protecting itself by giving the MC selective amnesia! if you are a rapist or a mass murderer but that is against your values your brain will do the same since you could not live with it! the disconect is what enables you to survive with what you have done or must do to survive or with what happened to you!

worst possible scenario i can imagine a scenario where the MC was beaten up while Summer got raped by a psycho without him being able to do nothing about it as he was just a little kid and he would still blame himself, so how could he live with the knowledge that he was too weak to protect the ones he loves? there are some sick stories out there and even sicker individuals who act on their impulses instead of finding healthy releases!

so if you where the MC could you live with it without going into depression and become a suicidal prick?

so not knowing what happened does not make for bad writting unless you are reay to play a MC that is a monster who can hardly control himself or a weakling that can not protect the ones he loves?

as i stated my name means war scared not because i am afraid of war but of what i become when war comes!

That's the actual beauty of story telling, I have a great story to tell but I don't have the guts and the talent to start and finish it. That's why I'm thankful to devs like Ocean, cause they're doing something I wanted to do for a very long time but couldn't.
do it!
the hardest part is the 1st line the 2nd hardest is the 1st paragraph and so forth!
the best one can do its to start doing something and once you get the rhythm it just flows from the heart!
do not even think where to start just start moving and it will come naturally!

the Chinese call it the wei state!
 

Soundgfx

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Has he really developed if it breaks him again? I think not. Think about it for a second, if he really wants to develop he needs to face the issue, otherwise he'll just be in denial at best. As someone who've been through the same thing(or atleast somewhat and somehow) as the MC in real life, I can say that I only moved on and developed fully when I got my closure.
That's a pretty good point, he wants to be normal again and but this whole thing about summer is really fucking him up for reasons unknown to us yet.


But tbh it really don't work like that, closure might be attained for a simple break up and whatnot but for psychological traumas like these, I'm no psychologist but I'm pretty sure his broken bits are going to get worse as soon as summer pops back into his life unannounced when he's started to get his shit together.
 

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