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Fortuna ღ

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Yeah, original Summer fit the story much better. No one is soooooo in love at 12 that it ruins their life. Hell, most kids who lose siblings or parents to tragic accidents or disease at that age learn to move on by 18-19 years old.
This almost certainly depends on the person. I'm not qualified enough to give an educated response, as I am not a psychologist, but I would think that certain situations would affect certain people differently, no? Some people find love earlier than others(though rare, it still happens), and that seems to be the case here. A coworker of mines has been with his wife since the age of 11, so while it may not be considered normal, it does happen. Being in love at that age, that is. Also, it seems like the "love at first sight" trope was used here. They knew each other years before they were 13, so we still do not really know how deep their relationship was. From what little we saw in the flashbacks, it seemed like they had a pretty deep connection.

You never really move on from things like that. You learn to live with it, sure, but move on? Not many people are able to do that unless they weren't close to the person at all. In most cases, if therapy isn't taken(in which it seems like MC has only just recently begun taking therapy), then you'll find them lashing out similarly to MC. If a healthy form of coping isn't found, then depending on the circumstances of the tragedy, it can seriously mentally affect people. People cope with drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. MC coped by closing himself off to the world and getting into fights for Nami. You'd probably be surprised how non-different that is to what many people do in real life. Depending on the severity of the trauma, it can affect some people for life. Forever changing many of them, one way or another.
I get around it by ignoring the new backstory and remembering the original. It's my brain, I can do what I want with it.
Lol, surely this was a joke? I'm sorry but I am not fully fluent as yet, but if this is how you truly feel, then I don't think you'd like any future updates lol. The rest of this AVN's main plotline will be based on the backstory written by Ocean(which is superior to the original in every way, objectively). So the backstory you seemingly deem unrealistic will be the backbone for the rest of the novel. Just pointing that out lol...

All in all... that was a really ignorant comment lol(if it wasn't a joke). Not because you haven't seen something, means it does not happen. The world is a really big place
 
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exactly people are so unique and so different not everybody handles grief the same way especially the mc who was an introvert and Summer who he cared about and loved the most besides his family

remember what people used to say about the MC

they used to call him a heartless and emotionless kid but look at how loving and caring he was to Summer

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no he became introvert after the incident before he was like every other but he didn't take her disappearance well enough,I think he closed his relationship cirlce with summer
 

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I searched Discord to list what Ocean said on the different girls so far: (main LI = romance + ending)
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
Nami: guaranteed main LI (Nami/Bella is possible)
Sasha: guaranteed main LI and Ocean's #1 girl (as of August 2021)
Sonya: guaranteed main LI and Ocean's #2 girl
Mila: guaranteed main LI
Nadia: guaranteed main LI
Victoria: guaranteed main LI (and can be compatible with every other girl)
Nia: guaranteed main LI
Maja: main LI
Amber: main LI (two main routes, love or sub, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route)
Zara: main LI
Ayua: "can be romanced", sounds like main LI
Coach Hill: "bangable" but no ending nor romantic relationship
Nojiko: "not a confirmed LI", "not planned to have Nojiko as an LI with an ending" - something to reveal about her to explain it
Robin, Layla, Elsa, Karen, Marla, Nicole, Genevieve, etc: ??? (nothing mentioned) the main LI list is not necessarily over yet although Ocean has a limit, and we might be introduced to some more girls (like the women's first team for instance).

Note: As of October 16, 2021, Ocean has said that the list of LIs can be expanded to more LIs but it is also possible that some LIs will be dropped, except for the eight that are listed as guaranteed.
We have an update on Robin status
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I wonder when we are gonna get a chance to have our way with ANY of the girls?
TBH I feel it's still gonna take a while (long) but all the guaranteed girls in this list are already in the field
I searched Discord to list what Ocean said on the different girls so far: (main LI = romance + ending)
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
Nami: guaranteed main LI (Nami/Bella is possible)
Sasha: guaranteed main LI and Ocean's #1 girl (as of August 2021)
Sonya: guaranteed main LI and Ocean's #2 girl
Mila: guaranteed main LI
Nadia: guaranteed main LI
Victoria: guaranteed main LI (and can be compatible with every other girl)
Nia: guaranteed main LI
Maja: main LI
Amber: main LI (two main routes, love or sub, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route)
Zara: main LI
Ayua: "can be romanced", sounds like main LI
Coach Hill: "bangable" but no ending nor romantic relationship
Nojiko: "not a confirmed LI", "not planned to have Nojiko as an LI with an ending" - something to reveal about her to explain it
Robin, Layla, Elsa, Karen, Marla, Nicole, Genevieve, etc: ??? (nothing mentioned) the main LI list is not necessarily over yet although Ocean has a limit, and we might be introduced to some more girls (like the women's first team for instance).

Note: As of October 16, 2021, Ocean has said that the list of LIs can be expanded to more LIs but it is also possible that some LIs will be dropped, except for the eight that are listed as guaranteed.
hopefully next upcoming chapter 4 there will be progress with Nadia and Sasha (more of Nadia and Zara I believe).
But to have way with any of the girls not before chapter 6 . (my thoughts)
 

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In the washroom of Relucia Diner Bella says some really awful and immensely hurtful things to Brenda Vosolovo in order to distract her and to give the MC enough time to copy data from her smartphone.

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And an upset and tearful Ms Vosolovo reacts by saying, "And- and you! You're the-e last one who-" which could be interpreted in several ways, e.g., Bella had an affair with an older married man which hurt people collaterally and did a lot of damage.

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Or could Ms Vosolovo be referencing heartbreak caused to Bella when her own father, Amber's husband, began an illicit affair with a younger woman and ruined the family as a result? Maybe Bella's father left Amber and Bella for a much younger woman taking Bella's beloved sister with him, possibly going abroad to a country beyond their reach, and refusing spitefully to give Amber/Bella access to said daughter/sister estranging the two girls permanently. If the father happened to be a really malicious and nasty piece of work he might even have tried to play one sister off against the other, deliberately poisoning Bella'a sister against Bella and Amber until their relationships crumbled and the sisters were forced to take different sides, loyal to one parent and hostile to the other, painfully and comprehensively alienating the sisters one from the other despite them having been loving siblings in a happy nuclear family.

Would a tragedy like that be bad enough to wreck Bella's life enough to leave her psychically burned, scarred and damaged enough to explain why she behaves in the way that she does? Bella showed genuine remorse about the way she wounded Brenda Vosolovo and I feel that she is actually a really lovely girl who has been hurt and decided to protect herself afterwards by donning "bitch armour" to keep the world at bay: Bella's strategy seems to be to mock, attack, humiliate and intimidate others in order to deny them the opportunity to get close enough to hurt her, seemingly terrified of developing genuine feelings for anyone, or trusting anyone, or caring about anybody for long enough to drop her barriers and allow somebody, somewhere, somewhen to see the vulnerable, lovely and wonderful young woman she is behind her mask, petrified by the thought of putting herself at risk of suffering more heartbreak and end up shredded and torn apart again if they rejected her, abandoned her or if she lost them for whatever reason.

What clockwork of events could possibly have turned such a shining beauty into such a fierce, aggressive and mistrustful beast? Bella is such a fascinating character that I can't help but muse and wonder what could have happened to have made he so aggressively defensive when I've got twenty minutes leisure to waste like now!
 
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Thanks, nice catch! I've updated the post. It's a bit of a disappointment for Robin, she grew on me in 3.5. I could have clearly seen her as a LI but it seems her story isn't really planned that way. Not a surprise though because she had never been mentioned as a LI despite the list being quite long already. And prior to 3.5 she really seemed like a side character (although some LIs as well like Zara and Maja for example but they're not in the safe category).
 
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LostGhost

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no mc was like that before but losing summer just pushed him over the

edge and made him have a mental breakdown and fall into a deep depression. He still dealing with it
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Isn't this characteristic after the dissapearance of summer bella is also was normal before the thing with her sister there's no mention of him been introvert before and which introvert go for a fight with a girl who's stranger at that point
 
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Is it me or does the MC look exactly the same as Steve from No More Secrets
i guess we can conclude that being a pervert comes with genetic traits associated with it? i wonder if its recessive or matrilinear? cause if it was pathriarcal we know everytime one of those pervs has a son they would be like... kill me now... it could be considering how many of the MC`S are orphans... and the ones who are not have as a father cunts who are above average!
 
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Remember what see looked like at the end of the last update.... when she said we were her problem. She didn't look like that at all. Teacher 1.jpg
 
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i'm not trying to be rude but idk how the person who does the animations doesn't laugh every time they have to right the MC's edgy face
oh hhhell no put some respect on my man Emilio
when I went in I was an ugly duckling
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but when I came out I was ' a beautiful swan

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when I saw myself for the first time I was so happy I wept

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and Emilio told me with great hair comes great responsibility
 
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